Author Topic: Powercreep and Dragons Thread XXVII: Making Juggler less OP all day everyday (Read 130196 times)

commandercool · « **Reply #660 on:** February 11, 2016, 10:10:01 PM »

How much HP you got?

Chaore · « **Reply #661 on:** February 11, 2016, 10:42:06 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 11, 2016, 09:28:50 PM

I know it's different because it's a flat bonus on a team of hypermax healers, but NepDra's similar RCV modifier is theeeee beeeest.

quoth the bun, this is the main reason why A.shiva is still going strong really

having actual rcv in red is really really nice

commandercool · « **Reply #662 on:** February 11, 2016, 11:04:17 PM »

Yeah I think Horus' recovery boost is a big enough thing that he makes me almost question my investment in Ra. Almost. Horus still has his own set of unfortunate sub problems, Ra x Kali OTP is too good, and of their two dubious actives I infinitely prefer Ra's, but Horus definitely seems like he pulls his weight a lot more now. If I ever stumble across real subs for him I'll probably make an Awoken Horus team.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #663 on:** February 11, 2016, 11:41:13 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 11, 2016, 10:10:01 PM

How much HP you got?

23k-ish, although the team is far from hypermax and I will be swapping Athena out for ATsukuyomi which gives me about another 1k hp and 200 rcv.

(Keep in mind that HP and RCV totals are counting hypermaxxed AHorus friend.)

commandercool · « **Reply #664 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:39:47 AM »

So even though I said I wouldn't do it originally I've been farming 5x4 Kaguya for a Latent Tamadra. I was only planning on grabbing one, and I've been using mostly Verdandi to farm it. She's not great at it, but the only floor that actually poses a threat is Amaterasu (or I guess Kaguya if I get extraordinarily bad gravity rolls) and by that stage I know if I've seen a Tamadra or not so I know if I care enough to maybe drop a stone. Didn't come down to that though, I dropped a Tamadra off the Amaterasu floor on my seventh (?) attempt. I guess this is my comeuppance for all of the first-run Tamadras from the previous dungeons, it took me ten-ish tries this time. Done with that now, anyway.

Quote from: Astrologian Sacchi on February 11, 2016, 11:41:13 PM

23k-ish, although the team is far from hypermax and I will be swapping Athena out for ATsukuyomi which gives me about another 1k hp and 200 rcv.

(Keep in mind that HP and RCV totals are counting hypermaxxed AHorus friend.)

That's very close to my all-hyper Neptune Dragon team's HP, so I know it's just about acceptable for stalling. I wouldn't take much less than that, but as long as you've got some defensive actives and/or a nice spread of defensive awakenings it should do for the most part.

Suikama · « **Reply #665 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:42:39 AM »

oh god there's a 5x4 version of mythical endless?

how

how is this even possible

^{yomidra i guesss?}

also no awakenings ver lmao

Jq1790 · « **Reply #666 on:** February 12, 2016, 05:52:42 AM »

AMON IS HERE!

Also super Baal and A. FALuci but whatever.

(Giving Amon the hype I should have...had I not completely missed his name in the announcement originally, RIP)

Mеа · « **Reply #667 on:** February 12, 2016, 06:21:19 AM »

Oh why am I trying to do (regular, granted but) endless corridors 5x4 with Kirin? This is beyond masochistic. Orb management class 101. Oh right, because I don't have any other team that can do it orz
And I think I totally could have done it this time too if I didn't get orb trolled 5 turns in a row on the grim reaper and have to use mini Valk to break ONE heart into a light to activate. Because the next board on hera had everything but lights, and a nice clump of heart orbs begging to be turned into a tpa. Really game?? Now it's taunting me.

trancehime · « **Reply #668 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:25:38 AM »

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/advent/160212_grandreverse.html

The descend for 4th anniversary of PAD, is none other than...

Well... Sonia=Gran Reverse.

The dungeon is x1.5 HP/ATK/RCV for Dragons and is Mythical only difficulty.

Mеа · « **Reply #669 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:55:37 AM »

Quote from: trancehime on February 12, 2016, 07:25:38 AM

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/advent/160212_grandreverse.html

What caught my attention in that article was mention of Marasy doing, a live concert on pad music? That takes me back, he's come a long way from those old youtube/nico piano videos.

trancehime · « **Reply #670 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:56:53 AM »

Quote from: Меа on February 12, 2016, 07:55:37 AM

What caught my attention in that article was mention of Marasy doing, a live concert on pad music? That takes me back, he's come a long way from those old youtube/nico piano videos.

Marasy has recorded videos of himself playing PAD music on the piano, YamaP noticed this of course, so it's no surprise that they are inviting him to play Live on the stage during the stream.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #671 on:** February 12, 2016, 09:13:56 AM »

Welp turns out that spending 6 stones on new friend slots was a total waste because after I finally got around to cleaning my friends list I ended up with only 45 friends left (out of the original 100).

If I deleted anybody here let me know, and I'll add you right back (and then remember to favorite you this time cause I seem to have forgotten to do that before with Chirei and Matsy).

Also, finally managed to get AKarin, maxskilled/max awoken her and I still have like 3~ 4 bubpys left. It feels like a waste to use them on the two gabes or the berry dragon though.

Now looking for AMinerva friends while I finish working on AFreyr, then on to my Pandora team (rather amusingly I got a SUPER when feeding a snow globe to my recently-evolved pandora. :V)

Also, remind me, do we have that update where the skillups for heroes and archangels no longer need evolution yet? I'm almost done maxskilling my second persephone and one badpy is definitely going to my grape dragon (since one skillup away from max)...

@edit because ps3 posting has a hard character limit THANKS SONY

...and I don't wanna waste pys on now-easy skillups.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #672 on:** February 12, 2016, 11:23:08 AM »

Awoken FA Luci get.

...though I'm not swinging anywhere near as hard with him as I am with Astaroth. What's a typical team setup for him?

Dorakyura · « **Reply #673 on:** February 12, 2016, 11:35:00 AM »

Quote from: Matsuri on February 12, 2016, 11:23:08 AM

Awoken FA Luci get.

...though I'm not swinging anywhere near as hard with him as I am with Astaroth. What's a typical team setup for him?

The usual I guess: Pandora, Persephone, Claire, anything that you need as support (D/D Haku, Loki, Sleeping Beauty, Diza)
12+ row enhances, almost bind immun and good amount of RCV thanks to everyone in the team having 500+ rcv (times the 1.82 because LS) 36k+ hp

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #674 on:** February 12, 2016, 11:38:23 AM »

>no Loki
>no Claire
>no Akechi

... Oh.

Mеа · « **Reply #675 on:** February 12, 2016, 11:52:14 AM »

So if I were to contemplate a Hel team, would I consider Awoken Pandora or Beach Pandora? I can't decide between better stats, haste, and bind clear over tpas, since the rest of the party would be AHaku and Zaerog. Fifth slot seems flexible, I have a Sleeping Beauty which can make hearts and was recommended. Or DIza I hear.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #676 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:29:57 PM »

Quote from: Astrologian Sacchi on February 12, 2016, 09:13:56 AM

Also, remind me, do we have that update where the skillups for heroes and archangels no longer need evolution yet? I'm almost done maxskilling my second persephone and one badpy is definitely going to my grape dragon (since one skillup away from max)...

We have it, I maxskilled Yamato not too long ago because of it.

Also gabe skillups are really easy to get, and you can just run Diagoldos to skill Berry Dragon. You will always get one skillup fodder on Mythical with no invades.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #677 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:45:00 PM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on February 12, 2016, 01:29:57 PM

Also gabe skillups are really easy to get

Really? Where do you recommend getting them then?
(pls don't say wadatsumi i'm gonna cry if that's the case)

commandercool · « **Reply #678 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:47:00 PM »

Blue Mystic Dragon. If there's an easier place I don't remember it. That's where I got mine, back before it was a permanent dungeon.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #679 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:13:15 PM »

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but...

Gemstone Princesses Carat and Facet, respectively.

Carat uses [Skillboost * 1.3] as her boost scaling (According to PDX)
Facet uses [TPA * 1.3] as her boost scaling (According to PDX)

Carat has the advantage of actually having one Skill Boost on her already...

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #680 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:22:15 PM »

oh boy a dungeon that boosts all Dragon stats?

ZAEROGOO LET'S GO
admittedly Ra dragon with all his DKali friends will appreciate it, too.

Suikama · « **Reply #681 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:26:46 PM »

Dammit gungho why wasn't the tpa booster water for maximum scheat power

Oh well there's always skill inheritance?

commandercool · « **Reply #682 on:** February 12, 2016, 02:37:39 PM »

Oh hey, now there's finally a use for thw riduculously excessive skillboosts some teams end up with. I'd consider putting the Skillboost Enhance one on my Kalloween team over Izanagi. Or inheriting that skill onto Izanagi.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #683 on:** February 12, 2016, 04:48:20 PM »

>SB enhance
>B/D

Come to me.

Suikama · « **Reply #684 on:** February 12, 2016, 06:54:15 PM »

I can't wait for skill inheritance

Then I won't get screwed over by ilsix anymore

Especially when I'm running only 1 dkali since I need to devote an entire card to deal with ilsix only for that to not matter as I get orb trolled with a board that has only 2 hearts while he is at low HP

Yes I'm mad

Espadas · « **Reply #685 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:58:36 PM »

Urgh, Satsuki on D1 or FA Lucifer on D2?...... not like i'll roll either of them anyway with 3 rolls available

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #686 on:** February 12, 2016, 10:07:15 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on February 12, 2016, 01:47:00 PM

Blue Mystic Dragon. If there's an easier place I don't remember it. That's where I got mine, back before it was a permanent dungeon.

HERP DERP I FORGOT THAT MYSTIC DRAGONS ARE PERMANENT NOW

:derp:

Okay, time to spend like 3 days worth of stamina to unlock the rest of the technical dungeons.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #687 on:** February 12, 2016, 10:12:37 PM »

More reminders of "hey doofus, unlock Awilda's stage and skill your two beach variants already", in my case.

EDIT: To repeat from last night...

AMON IS HERE!!

Chaore · « **Reply #688 on:** February 13, 2016, 01:42:41 AM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on February 12, 2016, 02:13:15 PM

Carat uses [Skillboost * 1.3] as her boost scaling (According to PDX)
Facet uses [TPA * 1.3] as her boost scaling (According to PDX)

Carat has the advantage of actually having one Skill Boost on her already...

Wow facet's multiplier is kinda dumb.

Shes a 3x multiplier if you only stock 2 prongs in all your slots....

Carat is potentially way stronger though as she basically goes anywhere whenever the fuck she wants. Meanwhile Facet is kinda.... Kali and Kirin and that's really it? She -needed- that 3x to be relevant too, otherwise nagi and kanna woulda stepped all over her.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #689 on:** February 13, 2016, 02:50:21 AM »

idk dood

Author Topic: Powercreep and Dragons Thread XXVII: Making Juggler less OP all day everyday (Read 130196 times)

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