Powercreep and Dragons Thread XXVII: Making Juggler less OP all day everyday

[OverlordChirei]

Not being someone who follows JP easy mode stuff I don't know what Baggi does exactly, but isn't it a 20% shield? That would STILL put my NepDra team a few thousand HP short of surviving a DQ preemptive. Unless Baggi's natural HP is also very high I guess.

If Midgard is good enough for blue, Gunbuster Jotunn is good enough for red. :V

30% and it's physical

[Espadas]

30% and it's physical

with a SB and a Water Row (but really low atk and mediocre rcv)

[Suikama]

It's 30%

Edit: fuc

[commandercool]

30% would JUST do it for me, I would survive with a few hundred HP left. Probably a bit more than that actually if Baggi's HP is good.

[OverlordChirei]

Things that may be coming soon for NA on 2/19 for PAD 4yr anniversary through the grapevine:

- Half-price coin dungeons
- T&S 5x4 in coin dungeons
- Descended Carnival in coin dungeons with increased drop rate

- Expected 10x descends
- Expected 3x skillup rate (from KR)

- 4x GFE and 4x pantheon (Only one pantheon, though.)
- All REM rolls come out with +4 HP, ATK, and RCV eggs

[MatsuriSakuragi]

10x coming back? Oh shiiiiiit son we got some plussing to do

[commandercool]

Oh shit, I didn't expect to see 10x descends ever again. That sounds great.

And hooooly shit, 5x4 T&S sounds BRUTAL. I've been coasting through these with Gabe so far but I'm actually not confident at all that he can do that. Getting a row and enough conbos to crack Sopdet's combo shield is a tall order, plus I can see all the board fuckery from those two getting overwhelming fast.

[OverlordChirei]

Note that I said expected, so it's not concrete, but it seems about that time...

Oh shit, I didn't expect to see 10x descends ever again. That sounds great.

And hooooly shit, 5x4 T&S sounds BRUTAL. I've been coasting through these with Gabe so far but I'm actually not confident at all that he can do that. Getting a row and enough conbos to crack Sopdet's combo shield is a tall order, plus I can see all the board fuckery from those two getting overwhelming fast.

Very sad idea: You COULD use Neptune Dragon to poison her and time the kill....

[commandercool]

Yeah, that's probably my best bet actually. It would be hard, but I probably have room for him since I doubt I'd need Beyzul. The timing would be a bitch, but it's definitely possible.

[Jq1790]

Oh riiiight, I forgot about the combo shield.  Wow that is actually going to suuuuck, and I intended to farm light resists there...

OTL

[commandercool]

So it turns out a NepDra team with Orochi on it absolutely ruins Awoken Sopdet. I guess I should have expected that. Well, I never have to take bullshit deaths from her ever again.

[Monarda]

I though getting Divine Masks would be as hard as getting Keepers......

I was so wrong .........

[MatsuriSakuragi]

At least Blue has Baggi in JP
The only thing red seems to have in utility, in any region, is, uh

Killing things even faster???

I made a Raoh video because he's not OP at all

I'll see your Raoh clear and raise you a wood equivalent!





Long. Fucking. Overdue.

[The Greatest Dog]

How did you even burst with-
Awoken Freyja. I see.

The difference in level gains is pretty high. Most of your team only hit 26, so that's even more impressive.

What do you do against Hera-Ur if she appears?

[commandercool]

Now I just have Challenge 9 left to collect the whole set. Gabriel or NepDra could fo it, but Defoud is quite a roadblock for them actually. He's really a bitch for a rows team.

I don't particularly want to do it with Ra because I don't want to leave Zaerog's resist up to a coin flip. I could bypass it with Orochi I suppose, but the preemptive light bind is also pretty annoying, so I may just have to find a way to handle Defoud with rows after all.

[The Greatest Dog]

Could you use Gabriel/Ryune for it? Usually, when I go up against Defoud with Raoh, I'll use Leilan + Chiyome/Belial. As long as you have at least 9 off-color orbs, I think you can guarantee the six combos, and if you're really lucky you'll get 18/12 or 19/11 for three rows six combos.

But you only have Reine to convert off a Ryune board, huh?

that said I'm not really sure how hard that hits without Beyzul leading. But you can stall for ages against Cyclone Devil Dragon to build your skills up for Threedia.

[Espadas]

The best stone i ever spent on Revenge of the Metal Dragon 

[commandercool]

Could you use Gabriel/Ryune for it? Usually, when I go up against Defoud with Raoh, I'll use Leilan + Chiyome/Belial. As long as you have at least 9 off-color orbs, I think you can guarantee the six combos, and if you're really lucky you'll get 18/12 or 19/11 for three rows six combos.

But you only have Reine to convert off a Ryune board, huh?

that said I'm not really sure how hard that hits without Beyzul leading. But you can stall for ages against Cyclone Devil Dragon to build your skills up for Threedia.

Yeah I would probably plan on Gabe/Ryune. I have no problem swapping to Beyzul, and if it comes down to it Defoud is delayable and I plan to bring Sun Quan. I'll practice that and do damage tests to see how viable it is, but with a decent Ryune board it could work.

Edit: Okay, ran Gabriel/Ryune twice in Endless Corridors, and I got a perfect Ryune board with nine black orbs both times. With Beyzul but even without Sun Quan that's well over the required damage to one-shot Defoud. Unfortunately it's up to Ryune to not fuck it up by giving me a bad board, which is sketchy as hell. But I guess I can always activate her hoping for a great board and just try to approximate the results with an orbchanger over the next several turns if that doesn't work.

[Monarda]

So anybody knows if Kaguya-Hime is a good sub for someone at my Rank ?
I drew her on the NY REM and although she's a 4-Star and doesn't have many awakens, she seems pretty good in the stat department for now.

[hyorinryu]

So anybody knows if Kaguya-Hime is a good sub for someone at my Rank ?
I drew her on the NY REM and although she's a 4-Star and doesn't have many awakens, she seems pretty good in the stat department for now.

Depends on what you have. Personally, I'm not crazy about her, but if you have a light team that does well off of a small amount of orbs, go for it. Skilling her up is annoying though.

[commandercool]

Honestly Kaguya's probably a great leader for your rank if anything. She's the same as the farmable green Kaguya but color swapped. When green Kaguya came out there was a lot of talk about how she would have been a great early lead except that you need a better team than hers to beat her own dungeon.

Challenge 9 with Gabri/Ryune almost worked. My Ryune board was horrible, but the next turn I ended up in a situation where popping actives in the right order wpuld give me three red and six heart orbs. I got too excited and tried to capitalize on that, not realizing that Gabriel was on cooldown for two more turns still. :V

Even after that considerable misplay I still got him down to 10% with just random conbos before I died, so if I don't play like an idiot this should work just fine.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

How did you even burst with-
Awoken Freyja. I see.

The difference in level gains is pretty high. Most of your team only hit 26, so that's even more impressive.

What do you do against Hera-Ur if she appears?

Die probably lol

Realistically I could probably burst her down, since round 1 Scarlet doesn't hit that hard, so I could stall fairly fine there.

[commandercool]

I think I read somewhere that you can run Metalit Descended continuously until over rank 450 or something, and that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm went in at rank 440 under basically optimal conditions (just a few thousand experience away from ranking up) and I'm not doing to get to rank 442 from this. I'll get close, but I have to wait for like twenty minutes for my stamina to regenerate to get the last run it, so that's far from continuous. Does anyone know what the cutoff actually is to be able to run continuously?

[Mеа]

Does anyone know what the cutoff actually is to be able to run continuously?

I feel like I was only getting 55k ish exp, but pad says 60k-66k so, assuming 60k, saying that rank 367/368 (200 stamina) is the limit sounds about right, with ~246k exp to rank up. It's a naive answer since there's some roll over exp from previous ranks, but also since there's a lull in the couple ranks before you hit those new 50 stamina benchmarks where you can't run it again to rank up, but could probably run KoG or something, depending on how much you have left. But it seems after the 200 stamina mark that the exp you need to rank up starts to outpace the exp-stamina ratio from metalits.

[commandercool]

I guess I wasn't paying super close attention, but I seem to have been getting around 60k a run. I think that's right, or else if it was less than that it balanced out.

[commandercool]

I can't believe that worked.

In retrospect this was sketchy as hell. Defoud was a trick to kill, grinding down the last bit of Devil Dragon's green HP took forever (it has surprisingly high defense), then I had to kill Threedia and Fat Dragon consecutively, then I went into Zaerog with a few turns left before I could swap out of Beyzul and therefore x1 RCV. It worked though, christ.

So yeah, my first ever full Challenge Dungeon all 0-stoned. Oof.

[commandercool]

Dragon Rush cleared with Gabriel with no problems. Between his recent buffs and my new optimized Threedia->Fat Dragon strategy, he can now totally farm it. Relatively quickly even. So all Legend Plus dungeons cleared with Gabe (and all numbered dragons for extra credit).

Next up: Ultimate Arena maybe? Maybe the next one? Maybe after skill fusion comes out?

[Mr. Sacchi]

Spent my last 15 stones for more box space (up to 500 now) and more friend slots (up to 130 now). I really need to get around to cleaning my friends.

Also, I'm one Dub-Sapphilit from my Awoken Karin, then all that's left is skilling her up, both Gabriels and my Berry Dragon... fml.

After that is AMinerva which I still need to do both Noah and Surt to finish my AFreyr.

And I don't think anyone here mentioned that the 1.5x rcv buff for AHorus is also a thing now, I haven't particularly tried it out yet, though.

Also Descend Carnival being a thing now is great, maybe I'll finally get Tengu and get my ATsukuyomi to finally finish my AHorus team. Then it's a matter of skilling everyone up which shouldn't be that bad.

Also, derp moment of the week: I was thinking as to why my AMinerva was dealing so little damage despite having 10 rows and then I remembered that I was using a Ronia friend lead and the only other devil on my team is AMinerva herself. So I'm an official idiot.

[commandercool]

And I don't think anyone here mentioned that the 1.5x rcv buff for AHorus is also a thing now, I haven't particularly tried it out yet, though.

I know it's different because it's a flat bonus on a team of hypermax healers, but NepDra's similar RCV modifier is theeeee beeeest.

[Mr. Sacchi]

I know it's different because it's a flat bonus on a team of hypermax healers, but NepDra's similar RCV modifier is theeeee beeeest.

Well in total my current team (with a 120 RCV athena) has a little over 3600 RCV so that bonus is already a lot :V

Although it's not as big of a deal as it could be due to my 3k autoheal.

(I run a pretty stally AHorus team, if you couldn't tell.)