Author Topic: Powercreep and Dragons Thread XXVII: Making Juggler less OP all day everyday (Read 130179 times)

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #180 on:** January 23, 2016, 03:44:20 AM »

First try, motherfucker. And I'm moderately intoxicated.

Astaroth strong.

Moogs Parfait · « **Reply #181 on:** January 23, 2016, 03:44:51 AM »

Special dungeons make me mad because I can't count on my own stats. It's specifically designed to trip up what you know about your team, how hard they hit, and how hard a hit they can take.

I died once to the stupid water cat and I don't feel like playing anymore.

Suikama · « **Reply #182 on:** January 23, 2016, 03:57:51 AM »

welp i got hit by hera 100% gravity because careless

Espadas · « **Reply #183 on:** January 23, 2016, 12:34:23 PM »

In a few hours there will be Gaia Descended, both as special and coin dungeon, perfect opportunity to clear both for the stones and be done F O R E V E R with her (at least until the new dungeon change).

Is there anyone that could put up an unevolved Guan Yinping as lead?

commandercool · « **Reply #184 on:** January 23, 2016, 01:24:27 PM »

If you don't mind that she's only level 46 I can put mine up. Let me know.

Akala · « **Reply #185 on:** January 23, 2016, 01:45:15 PM »

Demon mask are hard to get ? Or can I just sell them to make some space ? Evo Carnival is reaaaallly attractive but box size doesn't follow... (well, I could add some space with the free stones I get but stil..)

commandercool · « **Reply #186 on:** January 23, 2016, 02:12:08 PM »

Demon Masks are pretty common. You can probably safely throw those away. I try to keep no more or less than two of every material myself, but those aren't used very often and they're not hard to get more of.

Akala · « **Reply #187 on:** January 23, 2016, 02:16:17 PM »

Ty !
16 PAL roll : one green dragon fruit and... 2 Keeper of the Rainbow ! So, don't need the tuesday dungeon anymore

(well, for now... :V)

Now it's time to...rank up !

commandercool · « **Reply #188 on:** January 23, 2016, 02:20:55 PM »

Are you aware of the Dragons Of The Tower trick? It only really applies to people of a specific range of ranks and I din't know if you fall in that range or not at this point, but the third floor of Tower Of Giants has an abnormally good stamina-to-experience ratio. That dungeon is available at half stamina on weekends, which makes the ratio even better. It's a great tool for low-rank players to let them rank up a lot.

Akala · « **Reply #189 on:** January 23, 2016, 02:28:03 PM »

Yeah I know about it, but it's more for <60 rank right ? I'm 58 and I wan run Hyperion Lava Flow - Lava Tube pretty much consistently, which have a 520xp/stam ratio

Espadas · « **Reply #190 on:** January 23, 2016, 03:15:17 PM »

If i remember correct Dragons of the Tower at half stamina is good until rank 90.....

And by "good" i mean "if you run it non-stop you will rank up before depleting your stamina"

EDIT: just checked, i was right. AT HALF STAMINA, you can abuse it till rank 90

Pesco · « **Reply #191 on:** January 23, 2016, 04:27:48 PM »

I still used it to micromanage my stam at rank 200.

Espadas · « **Reply #192 on:** January 23, 2016, 05:06:22 PM »

commander, could you put up Guan Yinping now?

commandercool · « **Reply #193 on:** January 23, 2016, 05:23:36 PM »

Quote from: Espadas on January 23, 2016, 05:06:22 PM

commander, could you put up Guan Yinping now?

She's up now. Sorry about the delay.

Espadas · « **Reply #194 on:** January 23, 2016, 05:59:42 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on January 23, 2016, 05:23:36 PM

She's up now. Sorry about the delay.

Aaaand done

Thanks!

TIME TO FINALLY EVOLVE A BUNCH OF USELESS TRASH! (that sounds kinda anticlimatic..... :V)

EDIT: Wait, is Xuanzang's <20 dungeon gone too, replaced by Journey to the West? Or they are both available?

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #195 on:** January 23, 2016, 06:39:45 PM »

Quote from: Espadas on January 23, 2016, 05:59:42 PM

EDIT: Wait, is Xuanzang's <20 dungeon gone too, replaced by Journey to the West? Or they are both available?

It's been gone ever since journey to the west hit.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #196 on:** January 23, 2016, 07:38:30 PM »

How to hilariously trivialize RO Ace:

Halloween Thoth&Sopdet/Halloween Izanami x3/Xmas Lilith/rdj's batman

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #197 on:** January 23, 2016, 10:39:14 PM »

I'd actually only put Batman up for guerilla Gaia but I'm glad he helped out elsewhere too!

Suikama · « **Reply #198 on:** January 23, 2016, 11:42:04 PM »

PUZZLES AND DRAGONS IS A FUN AND RELAXING GAME

get the fuck outta here

lifive your ass is next

commandercool · « **Reply #199 on:** January 24, 2016, 05:14:01 AM »

Yaaaay.

With this my Beyzul is now Beyzul. He's my second ultramax monster, which is... Weird.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #200 on:** January 24, 2016, 06:28:38 AM »

I find myself wondering how many of those are in the wild, penta'd Beyzuls. Wangrens too, to a lesser extent, but mostly curious about Beyzuls just because I actually see him used(namely here, by you).

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #201 on:** January 24, 2016, 06:52:53 AM »

Quote from: Suikama x Lucy on January 23, 2016, 11:42:04 PM

kouryu challenge

oops i tried this and got eaten by haku

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #202 on:** January 24, 2016, 09:58:09 AM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on January 24, 2016, 06:52:53 AM

oops i tried this and got eaten by haku

ok nvm I ate her this time

Akala · « **Reply #203 on:** January 24, 2016, 03:01:44 PM »

Mhhh.. am I right to think that F/L Horus is better than F/F Horus (until I can get Awoken Horus) ?

And should I feed him with 4 Tamadara right now ?

Jq1790 · « **Reply #204 on:** January 24, 2016, 03:57:28 PM »

Quote from: Akala on January 24, 2016, 03:01:44 PM

Mhhh.. am I right to think that F/L Horus is better than F/F Horus (until I can get Awoken Horus) ?

And should I feed him with 4 Tamadara right now ?

F/L is definitely better, yes.

I do not recall his Awakenings so I cannot judge on that.

commandercool · « **Reply #205 on:** January 24, 2016, 05:30:16 PM »

Oh hey, it looks like Santa Clause is just a normal dungeon in the normal descend rotation. I'm kind of surprised actually.

Also 5x4 Kaguya? Fucking seriously? PDX is reporting that it's not no-RCV though, is that true? If it is I should be able to handle it with Gabe, it'll just be slow and sketchy.

Suikama · « **Reply #206 on:** January 24, 2016, 05:59:09 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on January 24, 2016, 05:30:16 PM

Also 5x4 Kaguya? Fucking seriously?

welp i guess im not getting those wood resists

commandercool · « **Reply #207 on:** January 24, 2016, 06:42:27 PM »

I've been trying to decide for a while what I want to do about NepDra's latents. For my Gabriel team I decided to go with mostly stat boosts because that team has a lot of stat modifiers, meaning that I get double or even quadruple duty out of each stat point. Right now the plan is this:

Gabriel: 5x RCV
Reine: 5x RCV
Snow White: Unknown, but possibly 3x HP+2x Delay Resist or 2x HP+3x Delay Resist (none of her stats are really high enough to take full advantage of stat boosts)
Sun Quan: Rainbow resists (he's on multiple teams, so Ra can also use his resists to fend off 100% gravity. Then again, Snow White is now on even more teams)
Beyzul: 5x HP

It's worth noting that one of my common Gabriel pairings, even though it isn't optimal, is Gabriel/I&I. When I use this team the RCV boosts are nearly completely wasted, since it almost always overheals anyway. Because Gabriel/Gabriel and Gabriel/Ryune are more optimal I structured the resists with them in mind, but I don't always use them.

My NepDra team has a lot of overlap with my Gabriel team, so it will inevitably look similar:

NepDra:

Reine: 5x RCV
Gabriel: 5x RCV
Snow White*: Whatever I decide to give her for the other team
Alrescha*:

*Either of these two can be swapped out for Awoken Orochi situationally

My first inclination is to give NepDra HP boosts because he has huge HP and that will be more useful if I need to use him as a Gabriel sub (although that has yet to actually happen). My logic is kind of that I've already not committed to rainbow resists so I might as well not start now, but then again do they need to be stacked to be better than HP boosts on a team without an HP multiplier? And I also don't have a rainbow resist member on this team, so I might want one for 100% gravities, and I guess that could be NepDra himself. I'm not actually that worried about 100% gravity here since I can just burst past anything I don't like the look of, but it might be useful to be immune to them for stalling if I need to recharge my skills.

Every NepDra friend I have right now with latents has some combination of element resists. Only one of them actually has rainbow resists, one has all dark resists and one has all wood resists. Will I be shooting myself in the foot for potential team dungeon pairings if I don't get resists too? Do people get that picky about who they pair with?

Suikama · « **Reply #208 on:** January 24, 2016, 07:01:16 PM »

usually you just want to stack dark resists for DQ

maybe some wood for parvati too. you gotta do the math yourself :V

basically with latents:

1. calculate your max HP when everyone is hypermaxed with no latents
2. calculate how many dark resists you need to survive DQ's premptive in Arena 1 (and 2 if you want but it probably wont happen without a shield anyways)
3. calculate how many wood resists you need to survive parvati's low hp slap in arena 1. If you have enough room for them with your dark resists, then go for it, otherwise just fuck it
4. with your leftover slots, depending on how many (probably not a lot) you can either use them for HP latents on something beefy, or get rainbow resist on whoever

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #209 on:** January 24, 2016, 07:13:59 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on January 24, 2016, 05:30:16 PM

Oh hey, it looks like Santa Clause is just a normal dungeon in the normal descend rotation. I'm kind of surprised actually.

Also 5x4 Kaguya? Fucking seriously? PDX is reporting that it's not no-RCV though, is that true? If it is I should be able to handle it with Gabe, it'll just be slow and sketchy.

It does indeed have heart orbs, but remember that it is 5x4, so you may very likely go several turns without heart drops.

Author Topic: Powercreep and Dragons Thread XXVII: Making Juggler less OP all day everyday (Read 130179 times)

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