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東方三月精 ~ Visionary Fairies in Shrine. "Gensokyo's Weakest Are Back."
Tengukami:
--- Quote from: HalfGrand on February 11, 2016, 03:06:44 PM ---This whole discussion on the ethics of Yukari beating Ran and the way Aya goes about when discovering it really in the end is simply pointless. After all, when I cleared the extra mode in PCB, using Reimu as my avatar.... I, Half-Grand, beat Ran into submission myself and demanded her to wake Yukari from her slumber. Dose that make me an evil person? I don't think so.
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I know you were hoping to say your piece and re-rail this rollercoaster of a thread, but I should point out that no one has called anyone, in Gensokyo or out here in the real world, "evil". A couple people expressed discomfort with a stronger being beating a weaker one with an umbrella, and then we got tailspun on this weird argument about whether Aya thinks of herself as animal, or part animal, and if it matters. Silly and mostly harmless, yes, but I think pretty much everyone here is aware that Gensokyo is a place of danger and flexible morality; some people just bristle at certain depictions of physical abuse, for their own reasons, which I think is a totally fine position to take that doesn't require a reminder of what a psychotic place Gensokyo is.
Like, if I watch an action movie and people are shooting and blowing each other up, it won't phase me, but some little kid gets hurt and I nope the fuck out of the movie - I know the whole movie is violent, but certain types of violence are just unbearable for me. I think this is important to have in mind when people side-eye things that happen in Gensokyo. Although having said that, just how psychotic Gensokyo is is very important to remember anytime someone talks about how cool it would be to end up in Gensokyo, or how idyllic it must be to live there. I don't understand those people. Have they ever played Touhou? Gensokyo is like Somalia with flying magical girls.
Hey this turned out to be a fun discussion after all!
Jeremie:
--- Quote from: Clarste on February 09, 2016, 06:31:05 PM ---Udongein is the flower that blooms in the presence of impurity. The implication was that Reisen is the canary in the coalmine: the member of the household that is most sensitive to impurity and will be used as a test subject to see how lunar beings react to living on Earth. It's not really flattering.
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I took a quick read into CiLR since it's been quite a while and...
Thinking of which, Eirin often calls Reisen "Udonge." I wonder why that is? She must think of her as something to gauge the extent of the impurity that's creeping into us... Or perhaps it's meant to mean that a moon rabbit who knew no impurity on the moon will become something beautiful when touched by the Earth's.
... It kind of does sound like you say but at the same time it also feels like it can be left open to interpretations. Touhou has a lot of serious and dark undertones regarding many aspects but further depictions of Eirin in various other events seems to make it quite possible that the latter bit from Kaguya's thoughts is quite literal even though yes, Eirin takes advantage of Reisen's abilities in multiple ways. However, Eirin's tone with Reisen also comes off as an adult dealing with an overly excited child at times. Chances are that the physical punishments she gives to Reisen are completely open to interpretation as it often happens with Touhou seeing how "Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth" were wacky adventures and later in FS we're told she was gently scolded by her master (dunno if we'd want quotation marks around gently) after she acted without permission.
I'm not trying to argue about this, just that Eientei, the Lunar Capital and the Myouren Temple are settings that I find interesting and fun to discuss about.
And then I missed HalfGrand's reply which addressed this well. Whoops, I'll try to remember knowing how to read from now on, lulz. :V
Starxsword:
--- Quote ---... Clownpiece still is a cocky little shit who just got off the Hell boat to Gensokyo, it seems.
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She is a stage 5 boss, I don't see why she wouldn't be cocky.
HalfGrand:
--- Quote ---She is a stage 5 boss, I don't see why she wouldn't be cocky.
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Well, looking back at the last stage 5 bosses we have had (I'm thinking of Shou and Futo in particular), they never really gave off the vibe of a hyperactive ADHD demon child that was left to run riot. Stage 5 bosses were motivated to protect their boss most of the time while Clownpiece was just kinda let loose to terrorize the moon populous and that power that Hecatia infused in her kinda got to her head. The only stage 5 boss that got near her level of cockiness was probably Rin and that was simply because she wanted to wheel your soul away in her cat-cart.
Actually, I can see quite a few parallels with SA here now that I think about it. :V
--- Quote ---Kyahahahaha! It's lunatic tiiiime! Welcome to a world of madness! If anyone comes from the Lunar
Capital, show them no mercy! Ooh, I got a good idea just now. How about I make you cry and silence you?
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Nigga please, your so about to get a spanking that your mamma never gave you (and I gave her that spanking, on normal mode in point device).
Seriously, her dialogue reminds me of an overly spoiled brat who thinks the sun shines out of her star spangled arse. So annoying! :flamingv:
Espadas:
--- Quote from: HalfGrand on February 12, 2016, 06:13:53 PM ---Seriously, her dialogue reminds me of an overly spoiled brat who thinks the sun shines out of her star spangled arse. So annoying! :flamingv:
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Well, in her defense:
1) empowered or not, she is still a Fairy, ergo not particularly bright
2) before meeting the player, she basically was kicking the ass of a very arrogant and powerful race by simply existing.... a serious ego-boosting feat :V