Had to pick up the game on a friend's console for a bit to enter a small doubles tourney run by the school's engineering club. We somehow managed to win despite many close calls (mostly my suicides habit) and this really good team with sheik and cloud. I was Shulk but had to switch to Cloud to deal with his Shulk before he switched to Sheik and omg she just completely shits all over Cloud with zero percent combos. Forward throw, fair, fair, fair, bouncing fish, death.
There were quite a few Corrins, which scared us since we only downloaded her after the tourney, though thankfully none of the people who used her were good. Also I noticed that everyone uses her black costume, but yeah that's clearly the best one. I got to try her out after we got her. She certainly has a lot of tricks. Her aerial side b seems really hard to punish but really easily useful for punishing or zoning because of its long, diagonal downward reach. Her bair if you reverse short hop and fastfall it seems like you can juke people out and punish rash movements. I can sometimes get to ground side b right into the ground if I mash quick enough, might catch some off guard. I was practicing side b hopping in place to see if it could be good for unnerving the other player, but you can't do anything in hop mode except stab so maybe not too useful. Her recovery is like a nerfed version of Pit's, but its still good recovery especially since her bair can get her some horizontal distance. Side b is also amazing for recovery since you can get a jump back, though likely situational. Yeah, she seems really cool. Her side smash isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but that could be from not getting many matches in with her yet. I think it's ridiculous that charging it has a hitbox though. Neutral b is amazing and unlike other charge moves it actually moves faster at max charge, which I know caught me off guard more than once.
Haven't seen a single Bayonetta in the tourney, her counter is balls broken but she seems a little unwieldy otherwise.
Thoughts.