Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume

[Mеа]

~200 exp left to rank up, 3 stamina left

Dungeon of Wood is at 1/2 stamina, I'll do that

> 44 exp left to rank up

Are you fking serious >: (

[MatsuriSakuragi]

We have maintenance for new ults on the 13th.

Pls giv Mikey/Freyja/Astaroth ;;


Edit: Why the hell has no one mentioned 3 minute stamina wtf

[Edible]

Edit: Why the hell has no one mentioned 3 minute stamina wtf

Could have sworn Trance mentioned it at some point.

Regardless, good times were had by all.  And by good times I mean "oh god more stamina"

[commandercool]

We have maintenance for new ults on the 13th.

Pls giv Mikey/Freyja/Astaroth ;;


Edit: Why the hell has no one mentioned 3 minute stamina wtf

What do you think our odds of seeing Gabriel then are? Anything?

Surprised they skipped four minutes straight down to three. Using up valuable real estate. I can see why they did it, when I think about th? stones I spend this doesn't change my spending habits at all but I'm sure it looks good when comparing to other games. These things always have the unfortunate side wffect of feeling a little desperate on Gungho's part, but I'm sure it's fine.

[OverlordChirei]

Jan 07 23:15:40 <jq1790>   I'm lucky I guess in that Arena is still not even a twinkle in my eye, heh.  I'm not actually that interested in it in GENERAL, but...
Jan 07 23:16:17 <Chirei>   i'll probably beat it soon just to tell myself I did

--THREE HOURS LATER--

dark lord yamap: ok bois he's thinking about beating arena, we can't let that non-paying bastard have his way

>Ultimate Arena now being replaced with Ultimate Arena 2

[Suikama]

>new ult arena

Welp time for ra dragon to get shit on

Inb4 every boss has damage shield and guaranteed goemonsopdet spawns

[Espadas]

Jan 07 23:15:40 <jq1790>   I'm lucky I guess in that Arena is still not even a twinkle in my eye, heh.  I'm not actually that interested in it in GENERAL, but...
Jan 07 23:16:17 <Chirei>   i'll probably beat it soon just to tell myself I did

--THREE HOURS LATER--

dark lord yamap: ok bois he's thinking about beating arena, we can't let that non-paying bastard have his way

>Ultimate Arena now being replaced with Ultimate Arena 2

Gave me a good laugh! Now let see who cave first 

[trancehime]

Could have sworn Trance mentioned it at some point.

Regardless, good times were had by all.  And by good times I mean "oh god more stamina"

I posted YamaP's tweet about it, the announcement formally was made a couple hours ago

[Akala]

Oh Yeah, just beat Castle of Satan ! Well, thanks to a Rank 387 Bastet friend, but still ! I just hope that I will not need such a friend for each dungeon now..

[commandercool]

Got some Nepdra friends, and I've neen messing around with the team despite having put next to no work into Alrescha. Here are my first impressions:

-This team is, as I feared, s-l-o-w. I only have three orbchanges smd I need a ton of orbs. That might not be too bad since I have a ton of haste, but it takes too long to get Dragon up because of my low skillboosts.

-2.25x recovery is enormous on this team. Even with Alrescha having virtually no recovery right now, I'm healing up to full every turn, basically guaranteed.

-The damage is good, probably even great, but it's not ZOMG-tier. It will one-shot everything I need it to I suppose if I can dedicate enough actives, but it's not really more than Gabe or high-end Ra damage.

-All of those things being the case, this team is... Weird. It's absolutely not a spike team, not the way I have it built, and the HP is good but it's still much too low to be a tank team. It seems like a consistent balanced team with enormous damage potential. That sounds great on paper, but it's just so slow...

I mean, jury's out. I'm basically down a full member since Alrescha is so underdeveloped right now, so I can't make a call for sure. But my tentative review is "Extremely flawed, possibly too flawed to really cut it, but the potential might be amazing". Needs more development and practice.

I pretty much expected all of this except maybe for just how easily it recovers, so arguably that's bad news since my expectations were kind of low, but this is only like half an hour in.

[Jq1790]

NepDra is weeeird, yeah.  I ran with one last night when I ran out of Idunn twins and while it worked and was strong, I realize more and more why I like flat unconditional leads sometimes.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I'm kind of baffled as to why legelonte is descend-status. It's really no more useful than the trophy biweeklies.

Where my Hel?

[commandercool]

What the fuck?! I was just running Extreme Endless Corridor with Nepdra and I died between floors for absolutely no reason. I had just killed Threedia, Beyzul popped up onscreen, and I took ~27k damage out of nowhere and insta-died. What happened?

Edit: Oh wait, I think I get it. I had fought Zeus Mercury many floors earlier and I still had his increased water drops effect up, which I assume replaced Beyzul's similar effect with a massive preemptive? That seems kind of bullshit.

I was almost certainly going to win too, even with my unevolved, unskilled Alrescha. So I guess thay says something about how Nepdra works once he gets rolling. Not that Extreme Endless is the hardest ever or anything, but that still seems pretty good.

[Jq1790]

Yeah, tis is a known thing.  If you fight Beyzul after Merc without you eat a massive preemp and die.  The end.

A load of crap but there it is.

[trancehime]

I'm kind of baffled as to why legelonte is descend-status. It's really no more useful than the trophy biweeklies.

he's way better than biweeklies lol. Machine with over 500 RCV and a shield+haste AS.

[commandercool]

He's also a rainbow-friendly machine sub which is cool. Doesn't seem great for the golem generals since his shield clashes with the shield from their active, but he might be cool for that new MP dragon. Is there a better blue sub for machine rainbow teams? I guess there probably is, but I can't think what it would be. Unit 13 maaaaybe?

[OverlordChirei]

ok bois first stream of the new year let's go

[Chaore]

He's also a rainbow-friendly machine sub which is cool. Doesn't seem great for the golem generals since his shield clashes with the shield from their active, but he might be cool for that new MP dragon. Is there a better blue sub for machine rainbow teams? I guess there probably is, but I can't think what it would be. Unit 13 maaaaybe?

armin prolly tbh, especially for ragnarooookkkk

but for a free card, he's a good replacement for a rcv buffer

[Mr. Sacchi]

Gimme that (second!) asterisk.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

[Akala]

Gimme that (second!) asterisk.

I want these !

Anyway, is there any good monster to get in the shirabansho collab dungeon ? (or any other special dungeon running actually ? )

[OverlordChirei]

Today's return of PADZ seems to have a few new changes:

-You may now use any team to play it.
-The difficulty is now Legend/Z instead of Master/Z, making it a Mythical-level collab.
-The waves are redone some, and you may beat it again for the stone if you already did in the past with the restrictions.
-The boss music from PadZ is now gone.

I want these !

Anyway, is there any good monster to get in the shirabansho collab dungeon ? (or any other special dungeon running actually ? )

"good" is a bit subjective, but I don't think anything quite falls under that category right now.

[Espadas]

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

One of these is not like the others.....  :V

Anyway, is there any good monster to get in the shirabansho collab dungeon ? (or any other special dungeon running actually ? )

The only thing that you might be somewhat interested in is the invade from Shinrabansho 2, Crystal Ruler Hikari - Tenchi.
She is a farmable unbindable bind clearer with decent stats. But she is Light, so keep in mind that she would be offcolor with your Vishnu....

[Jq1790]

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Wood immunity shenanigans, Matsy?  Fr when the Grecoroman update arrives naturally, but still.

[Akala]

The only thing that you might be somewhat interested in is the invade from Shinrabansho 2, Crystal Ruler Hikari - Tenchi.
She is a farmable unbindable bind clearer with decent stats. But she is Light, so keep in mind that she would be offcolor with your Vishnu....

Ty, and what about Blooming Flower Princess Kaguya as a sub ?
(Jsut saw that you can see each monster drop on padx..)

[Mr. Sacchi]

Ty, and what about Blooming Flower Princess Kaguya as a sub ?
(Jsut saw that you can see each monster drop on padx..)

I'd... recommend against it, that Kaguya is a skillup material - a monster made specifically to skillup a more valuable monster, in this case, Astaroth. She's also part of the dreaded half of skillup materials that requires evolution before it can be fed to the valuable monster in question.

Since she's Astaroth's skillup, her skill is the exact same as Astaroth's and as such, has the exact same problem - it's a pitifully slow orbchange that only gets better when you skill it up to max (and then it becomes a... slower-than-average orbchange) which means you won't get to use it very often. She does not have a subattribute, and as a level 70 max monster, her stats are pretty ass.

She's the kind of monster that fits but only in the "worst possible scenario" kind of way. To her credit though, she is in the 5% highest RCV stats for 4*s out there so maybe she could work as a statick? Although even then that's a stretch.

[Akala]

I'd... recommend against it, that Kaguya is a skillup material - a monster made specifically to skillup a more valuable monster, in this case, Astaroth. She's also part of the dreaded half of skillup materials that requires evolution before it can be fed to the valuable monster in question.

Since she's Astaroth's skillup, her skill is the exact same as Astaroth's and as such, has the exact same problem - it's a pitifully slow orbchange that only gets better when you skill it up to max (and then it becomes a... slower-than-average orbchange) which means you won't get to use it very often. She does not have a subattribute, and as a level 70 max monster, her stats are pretty ass.

She's the kind of monster that fits but only in the "worst possible scenario" kind of way. To her credit though, she is in the 5% highest RCV stats for 4*s out there so maybe she could work as a statick? Although even then that's a stretch.

Ok thanks a lot for all those details ! I will probably continue with my current team : Vishnu, Armor Ogre and 3 Hobgoblin (I wait for Tuesday to grab somme Keeper to evolve them)

[commandercool]

Ok thanks a lot for all those details ! I will probably continue with my current team : Vishnu, Armor Ogre and 3 Hobgoblin (I wait for Tuesday to grab somme Keeper to evolve them)

If you're using Armor Ogre, keep in mind that it's extremely easy to ultimate evolve it into Flame Armor Ogre or Ice Armor Ogre. You just need some common evolution materials, and ultimate evolutions can be done at any time, even if the thing you're evolving isn't maximum level. Just make sure it has both awakenings by feeding two other Armor Ogres to it before you evolve it, since it will be a little harder to awaken afterward.

[Akala]

If you're using Armor Ogre, keep in mind that it's extremely easy to ultimate evolve it into Flame Armor Ogre or Ice Armor Ogre. You just need some common evolution materials, and ultimate evolutions can be done at any time, even if the thing you're evolving isn't maximum level. Just make sure it has both awakenings by feeding two other Armor Ogres to it before you evolve it, since it will be a little harder to awaken afterward.

I saw that too, seems that Tuesday will be a Keeper Farming day !  Thanks again !

[MatsuriSakuragi]

One of these is not like the others.....  :V

Wood immunity shenanigans, Matsy?  Fr when the Grecoroman update arrives naturally, but still.

Jq gets it.

I'd... recommend against it, that Kaguya is a skillup material - a monster made specifically to skillup a more valuable monster, in this case, Astaroth. She's also part of the dreaded half of skillup materials that requires evolution before it can be fed to the valuable monster in question.

Since she's Astaroth's skillup, her skill is the exact same as Astaroth's and as such, has the exact same problem - it's a pitifully slow orbchange that only gets better when you skill it up to max (and then it becomes a... slower-than-average orbchange) which means you won't get to use it very often. She does not have a subattribute, and as a level 70 max monster, her stats are pretty ass.

She's the kind of monster that fits but only in the "worst possible scenario" kind of way. To her credit though, she is in the 5% highest RCV stats for 4*s out there so maybe she could work as a statick? Although even then that's a stretch.

Do what you want, honestly, because Awoken Astaroth is far, far better than her normal evos in pretty much every way. (except art. Pajamastaroth ftw)

But as someone who went through the hell of skilling up Astaroth with kaguyas, I strongly recommend against it because Kaguya is pretty awful and not worth the effort.

I suggest investing in making Cu Chulainn or Ancient Dragon Knight Zeal. They're much better wood makers for early game use (and Cu Chulainn is still a solid pick later on).