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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #420 on: December 24, 2015, 12:48:06 PM »
I've always been curious, but is there any special incentive for trying to S-rank a dungeon? Couldn't find anything about this elsewhere.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #421 on: December 24, 2015, 01:28:37 PM »
I tried no target and target each but nothing worked

Must be ordering of your subs then

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #422 on: December 24, 2015, 03:06:25 PM »
There is no glitch happening here, smh...

The targeting system checks for lowest HP as well, and the Fire Mech has less HP than the Light Mech. Simple.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #423 on: December 24, 2015, 05:06:55 PM »
There is no glitch happening here, smh...

The targeting system checks for lowest HP as well, and the Fire Mech has less HP than the Light Mech. Simple.
Okay this might be it then. Still kind of silly but if there's a reason then w/e

Now on the other hand

What reason is there for EU to suddenly have x10 descends but not us

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #424 on: December 24, 2015, 06:14:44 PM »


I should be happy that Minerva/Ronia works okay here but I'm not

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #425 on: December 24, 2015, 07:16:37 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #426 on: December 24, 2015, 11:03:59 PM »
Wow never mind the 10x bullshit

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #427 on: December 24, 2015, 11:05:52 PM »
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Good start. Now hypermax her. Join the club.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #428 on: December 24, 2015, 11:49:33 PM »
Hey jq, any plans to hypermax that Hermes? He actually seems like he might be a really solid Gabriel friend. Like REALLY solid. I think I like him more than Ryune as she is right now.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #429 on: December 25, 2015, 12:19:50 AM »
Hey jq, any plans to hypermax that Hermes? He actually seems like he might be a really solid Gabriel friend. Like REALLY solid. I think I like him more than Ryune as she is right now.
Wasnt really far up in the pipeline(currently DMeta then SQ was my plan right now) but I could see myself switching him/SQ around if desired, sure.  Of course this requires me to not be lazy about plusses so I wouldnt hold your breath on that.  I can try though!

Mad respect for him for clearing half of the Mythicals for me, after all.

Out of curiousity, what is it that Hermes provides for you that Ryune doesn't do better?  Double Attack Stance proving more helpful than a BDH board with Haste 1 sounds crazy in type, but since I don't have the practice of using your Gabe enough to know how the two work in practice(and lack either Gabriel or Ryune to compare) I can't say on my own.
« Last Edit: December 25, 2015, 12:24:49 AM by Jq1790 »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #430 on: December 25, 2015, 12:42:36 AM »
Decided to play the new courses on Mario 3DS for a bit before I have to leave for xmas church.





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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #431 on: December 25, 2015, 01:23:12 AM »
Wasnt really far up in the pipeline(currently DMeta then SQ was my plan right now) but I could see myself switching him/SQ around if desired, sure.  Of course this requires me to not be lazy about plusses so I wouldnt hold your breath on that.  I can try though!

Mad respect for him for clearing half of the Mythicals for me, after all.

Don't push yourself if you weren't planning on doing that anyway, but if you do hypermax him I'd be happy to use him.

Out of curiousity, what is it that Hermes provides for you that Ryune doesn't do better?  Double Attack Stance proving more helpful than a BDH board with Haste 1 sounds crazy in type, but since I don't have the practice of using your Gabe enough to know how the two work in practice(and lack either Gabriel or Ryune to compare) I can't say on my own.

I'm not a fan of boarchange actives that create three types, really. Making a ton of blue and hearts is nice in theory, but it's too likely that I'll get too few blue orbs to be able to do rows. I prefer a reliable, predictable active most of the time than something that can fuck me with RNG. There are exceptions, like when I need to wipe the board clear of poison in Devil Rush or something, but they're rare. A double orbchange consistently gives me enough orbs to do two rows, a boardchange consistently does not. And haste rarely matters for this team because I tend to use my actives in a certain sequence when I know it's time to kill something, so usually I'm either using her when my other skills are off cooldown anyway or I'm ending the dungeon with her unused because she's not part of my big combo.

Two skillboost is also extremely valuable to me since lack of skillboosts is probably my team's single biggest flaw. Just one extra skillboost can make a huge difference on dungeons with countdown first floors, especially since Hermes' active has a significantly shorter cooldown than Ryune's. Three rows and one prong is much better for me than two rows and two prongs, although with the significant drawback of only x2 attack instead of x3. I don't know how the exact math on that works out, I'm guessing damage is in Ryune's favor by quite a bit, but outside of Gabriel/Gabriel setups my damage is usually enough to do anything I need to do once it comes around to burst time.

It's notable that Ryune doesn't have an ultimate yet and Hermes does, so once she gets her ultimate form I'm sure she'll be hands-down better, but that will probably be a very long time from now. In the meantime Hermes is slightly fast and much more consistent in exchange for being weaker and arguably lower-utility, but I'll totally take that most of the time.
« Last Edit: December 25, 2015, 01:28:35 AM by commandercool »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #432 on: December 25, 2015, 01:47:24 AM »
* Jq1790 takes notes

Indeed, noted.  I'm so used to boardchange usage myself I usually just deal with it if I get screwed over(and in my Hermes-led team now the biggest orbtroll I can get is fewer than 6 dark orbs from Karin given that a common thing for me to do when not in need of combos is to form two rows by using Karin->Hermes for a B/D board with B focus.)

Of course, I have only recently been revisiting Hermes as a leader, so I might be lacking in experimentation to know what's better to do yet.  I definitely like Gabe->Hermes for another burst option if I need to work when Karin's on cooldown(like this last Water Catdragon run where I tried Gabe and had to pop Karin to kill Mitsuki because I was swinging too low) though.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #433 on: December 25, 2015, 03:06:23 AM »
* Jq1790 takes notes

Indeed, noted.  I'm so used to boardchange usage myself I usually just deal with it if I get screwed over(and in my Hermes-led team now the biggest orbtroll I can get is fewer than 6 dark orbs from Karin given that a common thing for me to do when not in need of combos is to form two rows by using Karin->Hermes for a B/D board with B focus.)

Of course, I have only recently been revisiting Hermes as a leader, so I might be lacking in experimentation to know what's better to do yet.  I definitely like Gabe->Hermes for another burst option if I need to work when Karin's on cooldown(like this last Water Catdragon run where I tried Gabe and had to pop Karin to kill Mitsuki because I was swinging too low) though.

Because my team uses Beyzul to burst and my full-power row burst uses a lot of actives, I can't usually just recover from it if I get a bag board from a boardchange. If I'm already committed to swapping into Beyzul, I need consistent results or I'll probably die. I can technically use board changes when I'm not lead swapped, but there's rarely a reason to. Sure I could recover if I got a bad board, but if that's the case I can probably just grind enemies down naturally too.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #434 on: December 25, 2015, 03:13:22 AM »
Yeah.  I understand your situation is very different from my own; I work with the consistency of "ok, I have good HP to take hits and not-horribad attack power to dish them out" in exchange for giving up the versatility your own setup provides for you where you can basically flip from tank to glass cannon depending on when you use Freezing Shift.

I feel like if I focused more on that I could probably do even more than I have, especially with AI&I being a thing(the power they allow for me is MONSTROUS in my testing so far holy crap), but with my main focus being Karin normally I haven't been giving Hermes and his setup(which to be fair uses almost all my Karin subs as well as the dragon girl herself) as much love as I ought to have.

Maybe this time talking with you here will get me to look more into adding him to my "regularly used" leaders again though.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #435 on: December 25, 2015, 03:45:36 AM »
I've been extremely impressed with the Awoken Norse so far. I think Hermes/Awoken I&I could be nuts. I'd still be hesitant to do Awoken Norse/Awoken Norse because I don't think their active is that stackable, but with a few low-cooldown orbchangers that might totally work too thanks to the haste. Maybe I'll try that with my Loki.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #436 on: December 25, 2015, 04:06:55 AM »
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it


Also you dont use Ryune active if you want damage you use it to clear crap + heal

Or Ryune + Hermes for actual damage
« Last Edit: December 25, 2015, 04:09:58 AM by Suikama »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #437 on: December 25, 2015, 04:29:09 AM »
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it

but suikama this is an anti-meta zone

in this land

the meta....


is always kiriko

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #438 on: December 25, 2015, 04:34:52 AM »
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it


Also you dont use Ryune active if you want damage you use it to clear crap + heal

Or Ryune + Hermes for actual damage

Not for Gabriel. The stuff that she brings to the table just doesn't matter that much to him. The extra attack surprisingly doesn't matter that much, since on trash floors I only need slightly higher attack to save time, and for bursts I'm usually doing enough damage anyway that it's overkill. The main situation where I would care about her higher attack modifier is when I need to burst multiple floors consecutively, and to do that I would usually need to rely on her active, which I don't want to do. The most common thing I'm finding myself using Ryune's active as is a heartmaker, and it's slow and unreliable for that. There are certainly dungeons where I would prefer her, but most of the time I'd rather have Hermes.

The only times I prefer a lead other than a second Gabriel anyway are when I need consecutive bursts or when it doesn't matter either way and I'm just trying to clear the dungeon faster. It it's a consecutive burst situation, Ryune doesn't bring much to the table. For speed, sure, I guess she's probably better, but I don't farm very many things with Gabriel.

I guess "better in every single possible way" is a little bit interpretive. If by that you mean that Gabriel isn't S+++ top tier so I should never use him ever, sure, she's better than Hermes as a lead in a lot of ways and hypothetically I'm playing a different team anyway. But if we're talking about the situation I'm in, where I'm using husbando even though he's trash, I don't see her being more useful.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #439 on: December 25, 2015, 04:50:06 AM »
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it


Also you dont use Ryune active if you want damage you use it to clear crap + heal

Or Ryune + Hermes for actual damage

There's always Ryune/Hatsume. They should give ninjas more buffs.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #440 on: December 25, 2015, 05:52:01 AM »
welp it took me three hours to flatten all of NA gg



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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #441 on: December 25, 2015, 06:20:40 AM »
The only relevant buff was Chiyome getting Devil typing...

so that she can fit on Raoh for that delicious 1.5x HP and 4.5x ATK.

Says something about NA's 3DS PAD community

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #442 on: December 25, 2015, 06:22:04 AM »
Jesus Christ

No wonder you can beat everything with Alraune

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #443 on: December 25, 2015, 06:26:27 AM »
Says something about NA's 3DS PAD community

To be fair, the version update is less than 16 hours old in North America or so. This is also the hardest score attack - the lower levels have significantly more participants. You can also opt to not publish your replay+score, so there's probably hidden badasses out there.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #444 on: December 25, 2015, 06:27:35 AM »
Rip alt coin dungeons forever

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #445 on: December 25, 2015, 08:34:59 AM »
Rip alt coin dungeons forever



RIP Alt Coins indeed. Siegfried? WTF is he doing there?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #446 on: December 25, 2015, 12:26:16 PM »
RIP me, messing around at 7:30 am is not the time to be trying a Mythical descend I guess.  Beat Santa on Legend though and got the drop.  Careful of the Twinlits on wave 3 you guys!
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #447 on: December 25, 2015, 01:51:08 PM »


No Awakenings? lol

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #448 on: December 25, 2015, 02:15:01 PM »
Merry Christmas to you too,  old man!



I notice that annoying black dog sells for five monsters points. Why is that? Is he a biweekly boss who got downgraded to rando status before we even saw him or something?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
« Reply #449 on: December 25, 2015, 02:37:45 PM »
Rofl JP got 7 stones and 7 Piis just for Santa no-stone

Holy fucking spoiled batman


Meanwhile we probably got the lousiest holiday event yet

Merry fuckin Christmas NA