Author Topic: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE  (Read 94864 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #840 on: December 02, 2015, 02:38:41 PM »
If she had just one more TPA(replacing something I mean, not an additional Awakening)and LS parity(though the bigger problem is the buff existing in the first place because holy crap that's too high IMO.  Maybe like 1.2x or 1.33x or something.), I think that'd be enough.  No rows necessary, she can just have the OEs or whatever instead since then she's still essentially weaker(because having her be equal bur farmable would be beyond stupid, yes) while being less horridly overmatched.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #841 on: December 02, 2015, 03:07:46 PM »
We do already have REM lvalk replacements - they're chibivalk and seiya (jp only) :V

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #842 on: December 02, 2015, 03:19:17 PM »
Is valkyrie the same rarity? I thought she was rarer for some reason. The symmetry is off since she's not typically in the same carnivals and shit as the others, but yeah, that basically works.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #843 on: December 02, 2015, 04:08:39 PM »
Is valkyrie the same rarity? I thought she was rarer for some reason. The symmetry is off since she's not typically in the same carnivals and shit as the others, but yeah, that basically works.

Ult Chibi Valk has only 6 Stars instead of 8. which is awesome for S-Ranks

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #844 on: December 02, 2015, 04:14:39 PM »
Promoted.



Yup, I guess I'm doing this.

Sorry Ruka, you're out it seems. You're great and all, but you're just not bindproof. Maybe you'll get buffed soon.

You're out too, Andro. With my team gaining five rows soon I don't want you any more. Never bother me again.

Now the trick is to find more Gabriel friends. I offered to best friend the one guy who I know has one if he would be willing to put it in his best friend slot, but he seems to be ignoring me.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #845 on: December 02, 2015, 05:18:07 PM »
She's... really solid at near hypermax. Dang. o_o

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #846 on: December 02, 2015, 05:31:10 PM »
You're out too, Andro. With my team gaining five rows soon I don't want you any more. Never bother me again.

You realize that after this sentence you are quite likely to drop Andro in the Christmas REM, right?  :V

On the matter of the buffs: Yippie! Now i REALLY have to max Claire.....

P.S. Anyone that could put up unevo Darkseid for Draggie?

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #847 on: December 02, 2015, 05:32:00 PM »
Me: Oh hey, now that I've beaten all these things in Challenge Descend 5 with Alraune, surely this means I have the full right to crush them now with "real teams", right?


*Goes into Yamato Rush with Nut/Orochi, bodied*

Try again, bodied again.

Me: fuk this

*Goes in with double bastet*

BODIED AGAIN

Me: dood wtf why can't I beat air man

Someone else: Clearly it's because Alraune is superior

*Runs out of options and patience, tries with Alraune once*



All those "real teams" can go to hell. This IS the real team.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #848 on: December 02, 2015, 05:34:25 PM »
You realize that after this sentence you are quite likely to drop Andro in the Christmas REM, right?  :V

On the matter of the buffs: Yippie! Now i REALLY have to max Claire.....

P.S. Anyone that could put up unevo Darkseid for Draggie?

I have one but he's not leveled. That okay with you? I also have a leveled dark hello kitty person.

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #849 on: December 02, 2015, 05:42:13 PM »


Finally.
I replaced Supergirl with Genie so I could have an immense number of fuckups. Using her on the turn I killed Genie would let me eat one of Zaerogoo's challenge hits for free, which I, uh, took advantage of a lot.

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #850 on: December 02, 2015, 05:50:33 PM »
I have one but he's not leveled. That okay with you? I also have a leveled dark hello kitty person.

Of course it's ok  ;) my own Darkseid is a bit plussed so it should compensate (and besides it's the multiplier that count)

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #851 on: December 02, 2015, 05:52:28 PM »
She's... really solid at near hypermax. Dang. o_o

I know, right? Only drawback is her abysmal attack, but with my freakish burst multiplier she's still hitting like a truck when I need her to. And she's not a healer so she doesn't get boosted by Sun Quan, but my optimal team is still 4/6 healers, so it's basically a wash.

I looked at the other fairy tale girls, but unfortunately none of the others look half as good to me. Worse stat distributions, a single prong instead of a row, and no bind clear awakening means they're far less appealing
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #852 on: December 02, 2015, 06:02:18 PM »


No row excuse me?

It's also so weird having dual skillmaxed Zaerogoo leads. Perpetual dark skyfall boosts and a free haste every three turns???

... If I remembered to use them when they come up.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #853 on: December 02, 2015, 06:04:57 PM »
I dunno, man, I'm seeing a row. :V
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #854 on: December 02, 2015, 06:15:32 PM »


No row excuse me?

Riding Hood is the only one I don't own so I just assumed. I'd say that skill bind resist isn't quite as good as a bind clear for my purposes, but depending on the team it might be good.

And I don't know her stat distribution offhand, but Healer/Physical sounds like it probably ends up being similar to Snow White (which is to say, the least intrusive for a monster with base stats that low).

Red rows are slightly less prominent than blue rows right now, but they're definitely still a thing. So that being the case I'd say there are probably two great fairy tale girls, and three decent ones.

And clearly I need to get Riding Hood now.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #855 on: December 02, 2015, 06:39:48 PM »
She's got 3003/810/511 stats, which for a utility heartmaker is really nice. Leave the damage to the rest of the team, which is what her row is for.

While red rows may not be as prominent, we do have Awoken Suzaku with double rows, Belial with three rows, Kiriko, Lifive...

It's not completely barren, at least. Unlike, say, Light Devils?

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #856 on: December 02, 2015, 07:04:36 PM »
...did I keep mine when I rolled it?  Because hot dang, 3993/1305/808 sounds pretty darn appealing all of a sudden for some situations, especially since I think I might be able to hit full SBR with the right setup if I make the right kinda fire team(Probably would be using Urd lead here once I evolve her/awaken/level her, which is something I've been meaning to do ANYWAY).

Urd/Cao Cao/AShiva/RRH/Squall/Urd?  Let's see, Urd has one(so two for doubling), Cao Cao has one, RRH has one, and AShiva has one!  Just enough!  Although there's more of a TPA focus there so her row's wasted, but whatever, she can be a fulltime cleric(and make ammo for Squall on the chance I don't have an Urd up or want her hearts for actual healing) and I doubt I'd be too terribly off.  Unbindable bind clear for fire is also reeeeally nice since that's normally one of fire's sticking points if you don't have Uzume IIRC.

EDIT:  Darn, I guess I did.  Lessons learned I suppose, and I can still hit SBR100% with Mitsuki's help so I get at least part of the deal back.  Ah well, RRH's a 4* so I'm sure one will show up eventually once I forget about wanting her.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #857 on: December 02, 2015, 07:15:44 PM »
Lol@ Riding Hood's name. "Happy Forest Maiden". Ha.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #858 on: December 02, 2015, 07:38:58 PM »
Just going to also throw out there while everyone's on this line of thought, that if anyone wanted to skill Red/Snow White/Thumbelina, now is the best time.

Guan Yinping in this Challenge Descend has absolutely no restrictions, and all three high ninjas appear at some point in the run. There's also no invades in it so you can't get denied any of their appearances either. I'm not sure if this has ever recurred in JP, but in case it hasn't, this is your only shot to just mow down Yinping for the skillups with anything at your disposal.

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #859 on: December 02, 2015, 07:46:05 PM »
I know haste makes skill CD shorter at the start of the dungeon, but does it do anything after a skill is used? Just curious since some people make it sound like it does.


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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #860 on: December 02, 2015, 07:48:34 PM »
Would somebody mind explaining this coin rotation to me? Is this the one with the 5x4 descends that drop resist latents? If so which dungeons drop latents, which ones do they drop, and what do we know about the rates?

I think I heard that Ur drops red resists right now, is that right? I might have to put hypermaxing Snow White on hold so I can make sure I don't miss out. Because christ, them shits are expensive in the store.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #861 on: December 02, 2015, 07:50:41 PM »
I know haste makes skill CD shorter at the start of the dungeon, but does it do anything after a skill is used? Just curious since some people make it sound like it does.

Sounds like you're conflating haste and skill boost. Skill boost is an awakening that charges your skills at the start of the dungeon, and that's it. Haste is an added effect on some active skills that charges all of your other skills, and it doesn't do anything until you activate it. Did I understand your question right?
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #862 on: December 02, 2015, 08:01:30 PM »
ahahahaha eat shit Nordis



Thank you, Matsy, for reminding me that Yomidra exists.

I was stuck wondering what to do with my active skills for a while. "Yomi then Persephone would give me 21 dark orbs and I don't want to mimic Matsy's tragedy"

Byakko boards are really scary, too, and I couldn't tell if I'd even get any enhanced dark orbs

Until I realized I could use Persephone then Yomi for exactly 17 dark orbs, for a perfect 5+4+4+4 kill.


Edit: what the fuck
FotNS has Goetia skillups I need to get the fuck on this
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #863 on: December 02, 2015, 08:32:23 PM »
Edit: what the fuck
FotNS has Goetia skillups I need to get the fuck on this

Oh shit. I was very close to dumping Piis into Armadel (her only guaranteed drop is fucking Scarlet) but if there's a chance for real skillups I won't.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #864 on: December 02, 2015, 08:33:45 PM »
did yamato rush yolo forgetting a bind clear

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #865 on: December 02, 2015, 09:55:44 PM »
Would somebody mind explaining this coin rotation to me? Is this the one with the 5x4 descends that drop resist latents? If so which dungeons drop latents, which ones do they drop, and what do we know about the rates?

I think I heard that Ur drops red resists right now, is that right? I might have to put hypermaxing Snow White on hold so I can make sure I don't miss out. Because christ, them shits are expensive in the store.

This rotation is just vanilla descends, we supposedly get the 5x4 Ur on 12/11, my bad for the confusion.

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #866 on: December 02, 2015, 10:02:26 PM »
This rotation is just vanilla descends, we supposedly get the 5x4 Ur on 12/11, my bad for the confusion.

Kay cool. No problem. I'm not really ready to farm right now anyway, so it's just as well.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #867 on: December 02, 2015, 10:27:06 PM »
Did 2 more rolls this morning thanks to the 1$ bundle. (5 minutes before the REM ended)

- Fire Valk
- Verdandi  :o

Stop it game, do you really want me to play Norns so badly? I'm already trying to skill a Verdandi gdi


Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #868 on: December 02, 2015, 10:51:10 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE
« Reply #869 on: December 02, 2015, 10:59:40 PM »
Sounds like you're conflating haste and skill boost. Skill boost is an awakening that charges your skills at the start of the dungeon, and that's it. Haste is an added effect on some active skills that charges all of your other skills, and it doesn't do anything until you activate it. Did I understand your question right?
....right. That's totally it. I thought they were the same thing for some reason.