Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE

[Suikama]

i tried Lifive challenge mode

couldn't scratch Angelion despite using aYomi...


at least i finally S ranked EVA collab with good ol Isis

[OverlordChirei]

*Descended Challenge*
[Duration]: 11/30 (Mon), 12:00 AM - 12/6 (Sun), 11:59 PM (PST)

The Descended Challenge returns with renewed dungeons and prizes for players to unlock. Take your time to strategize--you have a week to tackle these challenges!

Just remember, you won?t be able to continue if you fall in battle.

See below for more information!

Details:
- During the event, gifts will be delivered via in-game mail when floors are cleared.
- Gift mails are available only up to 12/7 (Mon) 11:59 PM (PST).

Dungeons & Rewards:
Phantom Dragon King-Special (Legend Plus)... TAMADRA (HP +50)
Knight Dragon King-Special (Legend Plus)... TAMADRA (ATK +50)
Land of the Rising Sun (Legend Plus)... TAMADRA (RCV +50)
Hall of the Divine King (Mythical)... Jewel of Dark
Eternal Dragon (Mythical)... Jewel of Light
Mei Zhou Lang (Mythical)... Jewel of Water
Leonine King (Mythical)... Jewel of Fire
Hedonistic Demon (Mythical)... Jewel of Wood
Moonlight Princess (Legend)... TAMADRA (HP +3, ATK +3, RCV +3)
General Yan (Legend)... Queen Gold Dragon
The Lady General (Legend)... Queen Metal Dragon
Dark Knight (Legend)... 2,000 Pal Points
Corpse Wyrm (Legend)... 2,000,000 Coins

*When completing ?Corpse Wyrm (Legend),? you will receive a Magic Stone as a clear bonus.
You will also receive a Magic Stone when clearing ?Dark Knight (Legend)? through ?Phantom Dragon King-Special (Legend Plus).?
* For these Challenge Dungeons, ?Dark Knight (Legend)? through ?Phantom Dragon King-Special (Legend Plus)? will not have any restrictions.
*?Phantom Dragon King-Special (Legend Plus)? and ?Knight Dragon King-Special (Legend Plus)? are ?Special Dungeons? in which all Monsters will start at Lv1 upon entering the dungeon.
*Floors can be challenged in any order.
*Rewards are provided for each floor cleared.
*Rewards are distributed only once per floor regardless of the number of times a floor is cleared.
*Rewards are received through in-game mail after a dungeon floor is cleared.
*There may be a delay from the time a dungeon is cleared until the reward is received.
*To receive the reward, please clear the dungeon before 12/7 (Mon) 11:59 PM (PST). If this cutoff time has passed, the Dungeon clear reward may not be received.

[Edible]

Holy shit, those tamas.

[Suikama]

lmao so if you clear these challenges + the previous you can almost hypermax someone instantly :V

I guess that makes my second DKali +297 easy

[commandercool]

Huh. The only one of those that I'm worried about is Land of the Rising Sun. I still haven't really figured out a reliable way to beat it. I've got some stuff that has a shot though, so I might just have to grind away at it and hope I eventually get lucky. I want to just say I'm not going to try so I don't risk another week of shitty failures, but I want to redeem myself too. Hmm...

[Jq1790]

I almost want to try, but I know I'd want plusses for that one so I actually won't.

...oh hey cool, I can grab my Zeus&Hera Myth clear I'm missing while I'm at it!  I think that will very nearly catch me up on Mythical dungeons finally if I pull it off, which will be nice.

Of course, this will require me to budget my tablet's battery power because the charging cable was left somewhere and is effectively gone, so I'm waiting on a new one in the mail, but hopefully it'll show up before TOO long and I can get to doing stuff.  I can probably do SOME of these on my phone though at least.

[commandercool]

Hmm. It might kill me to do it, but I think this team beats Yamato Rush:

Gabriel/Snow White/Reine/Sun Quan/Beyzul/Gabriel

As long as I don't roll Tengu the only thing that can kill me should be Kagu's 30% attack. I think if I swap to Beyzul, recharge his skill on Kagu, delay Kagu, kill him, and then tank Goemon's preemptive and then switch back on the first turn I should be G2G. I think.

Edit: Oh right, other Gabriels don't exist. I know there's one other hypermax one somewhere, but the guy hasn't had him up in a leader slot for a while and I can't remember his name. Fuuuuuck...

Edit edit: Oh good, he's registered on PDX and I'm still friends with him. I sent him a message.

[OverlordChirei]

As long as I don't roll Tengu the only thing that can kill me should be Kagu's 30% attack. I think if I swap to Beyzul, recharge his skill on Kagu, delay Kagu, kill him, and then tank Goemon's preemptive and then switch back on the first turn I should be G2G. I think.

Be extremely careful at dealing with Kagu. Since you run a tank team, you actually get to experience how he works.

His entire game plan is to constantly create ammo for either of his moves that make jammers or poison, so you have to be constantly controlling the number of dark and fire orbs on the board. All fire turns to jammer, and all dark turns to poison. You let too much of that build up, and you're in big trouble.

[commandercool]

Be extremely careful at dealing with Kagu. Since you run a tank team, you actually get to experience how he works.

His entire game plan is to constantly create ammo for either of his moves that make jammers or poison, so you have to be constantly controlling the number of dark and fire orbs on the board. All fire turns to jammer, and all dark turns to poison. You let too much of that build up, and you're in big trouble.

I have actually played against him with a stall team before, with my normal Gabriel team. But thanks for the heads up. I think I can manage him, and I don't actually plan to spend that many turns on him relatively since he is red. I think I can chip him down to very close to 50% then just  burst him to death and use a delay to get around his resolve. That's the plan anyway, I have no idea if it'll work that way in practice. Maybe I'm underestimating his poison.

[OverlordChirei]

I have actually played against him with a stall team before, with my normal Gabriel team. But thanks for the heads up. I think I can manage him, and I don't actually plan to spend that many turns on him relatively since he is red. I think I can chip him down to very close to 50% then just  burst him to death and use a delay to get around his resolve. That's the plan anyway, I have no idea if it'll work that way in practice. Maybe I'm underestimating his poison.

You should in theory still be fine, though he spammed the venom fang on me on my single attempt, but I had 60% poison resist which blocked most of that. You do not, so I hope the 2x RCV will suffice (and that he doesn't delete too many hearts).

[commandercool]

You should in theory still be fine, though he spammed the venom fang on me on my single attempt, but I had 60% poison resist which blocked most of that. You do not, so I hope the 2x RCV will suffice (and that he doesn't delete too many hearts).

I'll have 4x recovery, since I plan on doing it with dual Gabriels for once. And three heartmakers, although two of them convert black to hearts, which won't be that useful if he's already turned black to poison. But that also means that I have a reliable way to get rid of it before then. No poison resistance to speak of though. The one time I tried before I used a Neptune friend and he blocked out some of it, but not enough that I was comfortable stalling on him for as long as I would've liked to.

[OverlordChirei]

I'll have 4x recovery, since I plan on doing it with dual Gabriels for once. And three heartmakers, although two of them convert black to hearts, which won't be that useful if he's already turned black to poison. But that also means that I have a reliable way to get rid of it before then. No poison resistance to speak of though. The one time I tried before I used a Neptune friend and he blocked out some of it, but not enough that I was comfortable stalling on him for as long as I would've liked to.

If you go into kagu with beyzul as the leader, you will have 2x, unless I read that wrong. Though at the least you'll probably always not be at full health, so probably not much danger of doing too much damage.

[The Greatest Dog]

I've never used Sachi Bros before but wow

They're so cool tho. I wish I used them more. Between Awoken I&I and Awoken Orochi, I'll just need a light member in there somewhere.

but in the absence of Valkyrie Reine, at least I have Siegfried!!!!(...)

Maybe LZL can hit that light spot. Sachi Bros have a ton of orb enhances so it could work.

I just re-skillmaxed them on my second run of Twin Dragons as well. Good luck this whole weekend.

[hyorinryu]

Nah. Truth be told, her active really needs a reworking. 6 seconds is NOTHING these days-- in fact, with most of my teams it's less than what I'd normally get.

She's great if you wanna stack light rows, but you really don't need two of an overall detrimental active.

I'm surprised they haven't tried to rework change the world so that it takes in to account the amount of time extend awakenings/actives and adds it's time on top of that. It'd probably make the active more appealing and I don't think it'd break Venus.

I've never used Sachi Bros before but wow

They're so cool tho. I wish I used them more. Between Awoken I&I and Awoken Orochi, I'll just need a light member in there somewhere.

but in the absence of Valkyrie Reine, at least I have Siegfried!!!!(...)

Maybe LZL can hit that light spot. Sachi Bros have a ton of orb enhances so it could work.

I just re-skillmaxed them on my second run of Twin Dragons as well. Good luck this whole weekend.

Well, worst case, there's always Midguard.

[qMyon]

So.....I have the Level 20 roll ready. Anyone wants/needs it?

[MatsuriSakuragi]

"OKAY Z8 IT IS TIME FOR THE ULTIMATE REVENGE"



"I HAVE MADE THIS TEAM SPECIFICALLY TO KILL YOU."



FIRST TRY. I HAVE AVENGED MY PAST SELF.

SAKUYA STRONG.

[commandercool]

If you go into kagu with beyzul as the leader, you will have 2x, unless I read that wrong. Though at the least you'll probably always not be at full health, so probably not much danger of doing too much damage.

Oh right. Yeah, I don't intend to go in to him with Beyzul up. I'm going to have to swap for a few turns at some point because I want him to be ready to swap back immediately after reaching Goemon, but I'll have the panic button of being able to use Sun Quan's delay defensively if things go south. Those will probably be the most dangerous turns in the entire run regardless though. And yeah, I won't be at full health during the turns I'm stalling. The plan is to delay him once Beyzul is close to ready, spend one turn healing up, then kill him on the second turn. There's a lot that can go wrong, but also a lot of safety nets, so it's going to be sketchy but possible. Hopefully.

[Pesco]

1 x yoloroll

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[MatsuriSakuragi]

One more yoloroll from collected stones.



You motherfucker

Where were you when I needed you? Now I'm moving on to green rows

[The Greatest Dog]

Here we are again.
It's always such a pleasure.
Remember when you tried to kill me twice.
Oh how we laughed and laughed.
Except I wasn't laughing.
Under the circumstances I've been shockingly nice.

Now El-Zee-El got buffer~
That's what I'm counting on
I used to want you skillmaxed
Now I only want you gone

They were a lot like you
Maybe not quite as heavy
Now little Zaerogs are in you, too.
One day they Awokened her
So She could heal forever
It's such a shame the same will never happen to you

You've got your short, sad dragons
That's what I'm counting on
I'll let you eat yourself now
Now I only want you gone

Goodbye my only friend
Oh. Did you think I meant you?
It would be funny if you weren't so sad
You have been REPLACED
I only need Cloud right now
If I sell you maybe I'll stop feeling so bad

You kill some other player
That's what I'm counting on
You're someone else's sub now
Now I only want you gone
Now I only want you gone
Now I only want you gone

[Jq1790]

Pesco: Reminding the world of yiur fire supremacy I see.

Matsy:  At...least you have him now for if you decide to go back to TPAs later...?

[commandercool]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot that double Gabriels has no way to handle Fat Dragon. My Legend Plus teams always incidentally do. So I need to not fight Tengu or Fat Dragon and not die to Kagutsuchi. Sounds possible but sketchy. Oh well. I'll give it a try soon.

[Edible]

Zaerog down no problem.  Pretty sure I can reliably 0-stone Nordis, which leaves the horrifying nightmare that is yamato descended.

On the other hand, fist of the north star collab has a bunch of stuff I want to skill up.

[The Greatest Dog]

hurrrrr
Zaerogoo getting "buffed" with devil typing made my chances of beating Yamato Rush even more.

Fuck Kagoogs.

[OverlordChirei]

tried to yolo some more hoping for some leilan subs



BUT IN THE END
IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY

[commandercool]

Zaerogoo is easier than I remember, but I keep DYING TO THE SAMURAI DRAGON AND I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW. Like I'll get 9 combos that I swear to god have all colors and barely scratch them and die and I don't know what happened.

Guys I was all ready to turn over a new, "not being a total failure fuckup" leaf, but it turns out I'm so bad at PAD now for some reason that I can't do anythiiiiiiing

[OverlordChirei]

Zaerogoo is easier than I remember, but I keep DYING TO THE SAMURAI DRAGON AND I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW. Like I'll get 9 combos that I swear to god have all colors and barely scratch them and die and I don't know what happened.

Guys I was all ready to turn over a new, "not being a total failure fuckup" leaf, but it turns out I'm so bad at PAD now for some reason that I can't do anythiiiiiiing

u need to believe harder

[MatsuriSakuragi]

[16:40:09] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Meanwhile, I have discovered the definition of tragedy.
[16:40:17] <aUsernameIsFineToo> ?
[16:40:32] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I decided to face Nordis with AYomi. Now that I have Yomi Dragon, getting rid of Nordis' second form bind is a non-issue.
[16:40:47] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I made it all the way to the end. I had Pandora and Yomi available.
[16:40:55] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I prepared my kill shot. So many dark orbs.
[16:41:00] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Too many dark orbs.
[16:41:20] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Couldn't get AYomi's popcorn right and had too many other orbs connected to it.
[16:41:25] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Victory was in my grasp.
[16:41:35] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> A +50 ATK Tama was eclipsed in my hands.
[16:41:43] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> And I crushed it, for I was far too strong.

[Edible]

[16:40:09] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Meanwhile, I have discovered the definition of tragedy.
[16:40:17] <aUsernameIsFineToo> ?
[16:40:32] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I decided to face Nordis with AYomi. Now that I have Yomi Dragon, getting rid of Nordis' second form bind is a non-issue.
[16:40:47] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I made it all the way to the end. I had Pandora and Yomi available.
[16:40:55] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I prepared my kill shot. So many dark orbs.
[16:41:00] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Too many dark orbs.
[16:41:20] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Couldn't get AYomi's popcorn right and had too many other orbs connected to it.
[16:41:25] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Victory was in my grasp.
[16:41:35] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> A +50 ATK Tama was eclipsed in my hands.
[16:41:43] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> And I crushed it, for I was far too strong.

#justtoomanyorbsproblems

[Suikama]

DKali #2 hypermaxed :toot:

Now if I run RaDra, Isis, DKali, DKali, FatChoco, RaDra I have 30K HP BV


also another roll

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