Author Topic: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the SOMETHING ELSE  (Read 94873 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #331 on: November 12, 2015, 07:53:57 AM »
I have waited long enough.




Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #332 on: November 12, 2015, 08:26:15 AM »
tfw no Zhou Yu so I aint getting A.kirin right now but she will be added to my collection when Zhou Yu comes again.


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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #333 on: November 12, 2015, 08:30:33 AM »
I've, uh, been ready for a while. But I didn't have +297 and pys readily available for this Kirin.

Sucks to suck. I uvo'd Noah, at least.

I'll keep using Kirin #1 until I get the second one up to speed.

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #334 on: November 12, 2015, 11:47:17 AM »


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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #335 on: November 12, 2015, 12:22:47 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #336 on: November 12, 2015, 12:37:34 PM »
Oops I wasn't prepared for Verdandi. Gonna have to scramble for the mats and Tamadras to get her online.

Also didn't know we didn't have that Izanagi form yet.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #337 on: November 12, 2015, 01:30:42 PM »
So Uriel learned Falcon Kick for his double ult? Also, Tennin buffs are always good. Make her Gon-level op Gungho. You know you want too.

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #338 on: November 12, 2015, 01:53:52 PM »
Not increeeedibly happy to see that the colored angels are getting cookie-cutter ults whole the black and white ones are getting special ones. I know I shouldn't be surprised because they've been like that the whole time and I shouldn't complain because a buff is a buff, but it is a little disappointing.

Interesting to see how the typings on these guys are shaping up though. Gabriel basically confirmed God/Healer/Physical?
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #339 on: November 12, 2015, 02:01:53 PM »
Not increeeedibly happy to see that the colored angels are getting cookie-cutter ults whole the black and white ones are getting special ones. I know I shouldn't be surprised because they've been like that the whole time and I shouldn't complain because a buff is a buff, but it is a little disappointing.

The light and dark ones however NEED something special so that they can keep up with the current meta. The "cookie cutter" ults for the RGB Archangel 1.0 is fine because it builds on their strengths while making them stronger and more desirable in their particular niche (more damage-oriented compared to utility of Hero Gods awakening-wise)

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #340 on: November 12, 2015, 02:10:23 PM »
this just in

no awakenings is still fucking stupid

that is all

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #341 on: November 12, 2015, 02:13:14 PM »
Unless you consider which colors are being converted (RGB archangels only convert light and dark, which are the "unresisted" colors), the RGB archangels have objectively better active skills than the Heroes because of the heart enhance. That leads to either better healing, or less need to enhance orbs after a heartbreak.

I always considered that to be the reason why they had less Awoken skills than Heroes previously, but now they make really heavy hitting subs. Michael and Uriel got a flat 500 ATK boost, which alongside their three rows makes them far more capable of destruction than Heroes. As subs, rather.

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #342 on: November 12, 2015, 02:24:36 PM »
I don't know if anyone said this already, but apparently Eva ults are out today as well.

The light and dark ones however NEED something special so that they can keep up with the current meta. The "cookie cutter" ults for the RGB Archangel 1.0 is fine because it builds on their strengths while making them stronger and more desirable in their particular niche (more damage-oriented compared to utility of Hero Gods awakening-wise)

The content of the evolutions is not a problem at all for me. If you recall regarding Michael I said "This is way better than I was expecting, if Gabe is at least this good I'll be happy". And I am, this will be a huge boost, I was just hoping for more variety.

Those stat boosts are massive though, christ. If we assume they go by the usual weighting and that Gabriel does indeed gain Physical (maybe he'll get Attacker and also get 500 attack?) then we can expect to see him gain 1000 HP. Which is pretty amazing.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #343 on: November 12, 2015, 02:31:13 PM »
"what the fuck u&y needs a fattie?  I don't want to waste one of those on th-"

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #344 on: November 12, 2015, 02:37:16 PM »
"what the fuck u&y needs a fattie?  I don't want to waste one of those on th-"

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #345 on: November 12, 2015, 02:49:09 PM »
You know, despite having several other super uevos already, that somehow managed to completely slip my mind. :V

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #346 on: November 12, 2015, 03:44:39 PM »
Yomi Dragon is now SS Rank :o I guess they finally found a consistent arena team with him

Unfortunately that team involves having TWO YomiDras so that's 600k MP lmao

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #347 on: November 12, 2015, 04:18:45 PM »
Now with Kung-Fu Bible Uriel being a thing, my Uriel/Wangren team seems to actually be a feasible thing since it has 10 rows.

The lack of skill boosts(only 5) kinda hurts though, only skills that will be up on turn one are Wangren and Gigas and that's if I actually skill up Wangren.

Still, 46k HP and 7.4k RCV is nothing to sneeze at, especially with 10 rows.

(Note: I love how the ass RCV on that team is getting carried exclusively by Echidna and Uriel :V)
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #348 on: November 12, 2015, 04:24:52 PM »
The lack of skill boosts(only 5) kinda hurts though, only skills that will be up on turn one are Wangren and Gigas and that's if I actually skill up Wangren.

Yup, that's one of Team Gabriel's biggest flaws. There are a surprising number of dungeons (probably like, three or something) that you just won't be able to do because of this. You might be able to stopgap it with bizarre subs like how I have to swap out Beyzul for black Metatron to farm Hera Rush, but I don't think I could do that without an assload of +eggs.
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #349 on: November 12, 2015, 04:29:32 PM »
okay lv9 beat this time

Sonia Grand is literally the easiest part of the dungeon. she literally cannot kill me unless I knock her below 50% and then fail to active 11 times in a row lol

Py floor was the hardest because I was stubborn and wanted to stall through them rather than just using Awoken Ra friend ?_(ツ)_/?

The two dragons were just a matter of using DKali and not fucking up (which I did the first time >_>)

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #350 on: November 12, 2015, 06:41:10 PM »
Yomi Dragon is now SS Rank :o I guess they finally found a consistent arena team with him

Unfortunately that team involves having TWO YomiDras so that's 600k MP lmao

Why two? I mean, aren't there other things that would serve a similar purpose just as well?

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #351 on: November 12, 2015, 07:01:42 PM »
I guess cause with three of them you have a mini engine that gives you both dark orbs and heart orbs

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #352 on: November 12, 2015, 07:10:22 PM »
I suppose. I mean, I can kind of get a similar effect by throwing Satsuki in, even if she's not a God type and doesn't make hearts.

Meanwhile, I am realizing that ASaku's multipliers don't mean shit if I can't do better than 6 combo. I need to see some pro ASaku strats/builds so I can make her work better.

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #353 on: November 12, 2015, 07:23:05 PM »
pro ASaku teams is the Dark build which is weird but works because Dark is OP and has way more time extends :V

Basically DKali, DIza, aYomi, and another DKali or Beach Claire or something

DKali > LKali because you get more time extends, bind immunity, and heal orbs

aYomi gives you 3 time extends plus his active makes it much easier to hit max combos for your big burst

DIza cause you're going dark so the more the merrier, otherwise you'd use aSusanoo for shielding
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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #354 on: November 12, 2015, 07:32:46 PM »
I get that, but at that rate I may as well be playing Ra, you know?

And yeah I'll get right on using DKali oh wait orz

AYomi I have tried though. Seems to work okay when I pull it off just right. As for DIza, I'm feeding the one I have to Yomi Dragon when she comes out orz

and she's the one I've managed to get a couple skillups on but it's all such a tremendous pain in the ass that I'd rather just use ASusan

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #355 on: November 12, 2015, 07:45:11 PM »
Well the dark kirin team is mostly geared towards arena anyways so yeah (and even then it's not that good lol)

For just general use Susanoo is fine, and if you don't want to farm Elia then aYomi + two Kalis or fat choco lol should still handle most things

If you plan on running Yomi Dra though why are you throwing away Diza? She's still a fine sub for both Yomi and YomiDra

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #356 on: November 12, 2015, 07:49:57 PM »
If you plan on running Yomi Dra though why are you throwing away Diza? She's still a fine sub for both Yomi and YomiDra

Evo form requires a diza.

I would just farm up a new one if your current one is even remotely leveled or skilled, imo

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #357 on: November 12, 2015, 07:59:24 PM »
Mrr, I guess. I'm just bitter about how fucking ridiculous skilling Izanami up is.

Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #358 on: November 12, 2015, 08:01:13 PM »
Is it? I skilled mine with the dark bowl dragon and it wasn't too bad...

Hell, Diza's own dungeon isn't even that hard now

Skilling up things that need evo mats is way worse imo

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Re: Puzzle and Final Fantasy Thread XXV: Throw your Gil at the FF Collab
« Reply #359 on: November 12, 2015, 08:07:48 PM »
I'm sorry I don't have good luck with skillups?

(read: every damn thing I've had to skillup without pys)