Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie (Read 94280 times)

Espadas · « **Reply #810 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:11:24 AM »

Chirei, what is that?!? PADZ for the 3DS? Looking damn cool....

@commandercool personally i find the boss theme of Pad Academy a bit catchy :3 and i really liked the Duel Masters dungeon BGM

aUsernameIsFineToo · « **Reply #811 on:** October 18, 2015, 02:17:21 PM »

Quote from: Jq1790 on October 18, 2015, 02:27:31 AM

Some of the collab BGMs show just how much they could do, too.

This. I usually play with the BGM off and substitute it with whatever I feel like from my music library, but when collabs come around I always give their BGMs a listen.

Espadas · « **Reply #812 on:** October 18, 2015, 02:52:43 PM »

I had too much stamina to burn and nothing i particularly wanted to farm atm (like hell i'm skilling up my second Echidna for low cost after FINALLY getting the last skill-up on the main one)....

This was a long time overdue...... RoBu send their greetings Fagan: "GET REKT!"

Question: i have 2 Ra in my box..... one will obviously become A.Ra but what should i do with the other? 2nd Awoken, different uevo or MP?

Jq1790 · « **Reply #813 on:** October 18, 2015, 03:50:44 PM »

Nice, Espadas! Gonna tackle any of the other endgame bosses sometime?

Suikama · « **Reply #814 on:** October 18, 2015, 06:42:28 PM »

HEY CHIREI CAN YOU CLEAR EEC 5x4

because seriously how is this shit even possible

Thaws · « **Reply #815 on:** October 18, 2015, 07:47:49 PM »

Quote from: trancehime on October 15, 2015, 06:30:25 AM

the grand list of troll eggs in the Halloween REM:

5*:
ALL OF THEM except for Chibi Valk

nailed it

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #816 on:** October 18, 2015, 07:51:17 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on October 18, 2015, 06:42:28 PM

HEY CHIREI CAN YOU CLEAR EEC 5x4

because seriously how is this shit even possible

I'm going to wait until I have Akechi or Sanada up and running. I've only seen MP Dragon clears so far, all of which I am not equipped to run.

Suikama · « **Reply #817 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:13:16 PM »

i guess that sumire i pulled might finally come in handy

hmm with Skuld, Andro, and Nut I have plenty of orb change and +orbs

but I just need some sort of burst

some sort of water burst card

or for gods...

:colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #818 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:31:36 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on October 18, 2015, 08:13:16 PM

i guess that sumire i pulled might finally come in handy

hmm with Skuld, Andro, and Nut I have plenty of orb change and +orbs

but I just need some sort of burst

some sort of water burst card

or for gods...

:colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:

The thing is that Sanada and Akechi have rows and popcorn in their LS, and a row is exactly 5 orbs in 5x4, so it doubles up. Sumire has no rows, so I don't know if it'll have quite the same impact.

Suikama · « **Reply #819 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:35:59 PM »

so i tried to find some videos of 5x4 clears with sumire

instead i found people clear it with ra dragon

...welp i guess that's that

also Scarlet system actually has the easiest time by far :V

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #820 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:42:16 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on October 18, 2015, 08:35:59 PM

so i tried to find some videos of 5x4 clears with sumire

instead i found people clear it with ra dragon

...welp i guess that's that

also Scarlet system actually has the easiest time by far :V

Tell me something the Scarlet Engine doesn't have an easy time with.

Something not called Ultimate Arena, please.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #821 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:00:37 PM »

Note to self, go try EC 5x4 with Sumire once she's evo'd.

commandercool · « **Reply #822 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:22:59 PM »

I was just killing time and tried to do Endless Corridors 5x4 with Verdandi and died to Zeus (although I wasn't really paying attention and probably could have lasted a few more rounds/won with better skill management). For some reason I was thinking prongs would be well-suited to 5x4, but that makes no sense, they are not. Rows seems like a wash or a loss, you can do them with fewer orbs which is cool, but there are less orbs in each combo, which should substantially cut your damage. Should be able to clear Endless Corridors 5x4 and True Endless Corridors 5x4 with Gabriel because he's Gabriel, but it'll be slow.

Espadas · « **Reply #823 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:39:32 PM »

Quote from: Jq1790 on October 18, 2015, 03:50:44 PM

Nice, Espadas! Gonna tackle any of the other endgame bosses sometime?

Well, after that i 0-stoned Defoud too but my phone took a fantastic screenshot of a BLACK screen for some reason so i only have him on my box as proof :V

For Defoud i went ADQ Hera-Ur/Ronia as leaders and that run was one of those times i curse the heavens that deny me a Lu Bu.... stalling for F/D Shiva (0 skillups) was a real piece of work, although it appears that being forced to lead with LKali in my jp account has improved my combo skill :3

On an completely different note, I LOVE THE HALLOWEEN DUNGEON!
The BGM is by far my favourite (i actually plan to make it my ringtone

), and you can drop both Vampire (for my JP account) and Quinton (for skilling up my Durga in NA)!
Add to that fast and cheap exp due to the evoed pengdras and the boss drop is actually useful and it's really good for me

Suikama · « **Reply #824 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:11:52 PM »

Quote from: Toyosatomimi No Sacchi on October 18, 2015, 08:42:16 PM

Tell me something the Scarlet Engine doesn't have an easy time with.

Something not called Ultimate Arena, please.

C10s that have 38k premptives :V

Quote from: commandercool on October 18, 2015, 09:22:59 PM

I was just killing time and tried to do Endless Corridors 5x4 with Verdandi and died to Zeus (although I wasn't really paying attention and probably could have lasted a few more rounds/won with better skill management). For some reason I was thinking prongs would be well-suited to 5x4, but that makes no sense, they are not. Rows seems like a wash or a loss, you can do them with fewer orbs which is cool, but there are less orbs in each combo, which should substantially cut your damage. Should be able to clear Endless Corridors 5x4 and True Endless Corridors 5x4 with Gabriel because he's Gabriel, but it'll be slow.

keep in mind that stalling is also harder in 5x4 because you get WAY less heart orbs + fewer combos which means you dont heal much

commandercool · « **Reply #825 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:23:09 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on October 18, 2015, 10:11:52 PM

keep in mind that stalling is also harder in 5x4 because you get WAY less heart orbs + fewer combos which means you dont heal much

Hmm fair enough. Should still be more than more than enough for Endless Corridors, even more so if I bring Neptune as a friend, but that might make True Endless a bitch.

I don't understand how people are doing hard 5x4s with Ra Dragon. There are only 20 slots on the board, and he needs at least 15 of those to be very specific things. Is it just a matter of bringing tons of Black Kalis and stalling their skills up every time you actually need to hurt something?

Jq1790 · « **Reply #826 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:39:17 PM »

Test #1 over. I need to do a few things before this is possible.

1: Get better at arranging the limited orbs for maximum combo
2: Skill up basically everyone not max skilled
3: Get better at active management.

At least I know the idea is definitely sound! A "simple" row with 3 total combos let AKarin(in a sub role this time, of course) deal over 320k damage, so it should definitely be possible if I can manage my orbs correctly. Made it to floor 42 this go.

Miiiight need to think more on what subs to bring in though, too. Need to mull it over for a while.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #827 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:46:46 PM »

Quote from: Toyosatomimi No Sacchi on October 18, 2015, 08:42:16 PM

Tell me something the Scarlet Engine doesn't have an easy time with.

Something not called Ultimate Arena, please.

It beats Arena too.

Suikama · « **Reply #828 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:58:34 PM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on October 18, 2015, 10:46:46 PM

It beats Arena too.

eh not really. There's are a number of spawns that are auto lose like DQ Hera and Beelz, and the only way you win vs Kali is if you skyfall a red match on top of your double row. So it's doable but you have to get really lucky which is not really a great way to spend 99 stam.

Quote from: commandercool on October 18, 2015, 10:23:09 PM

Hmm fair enough. Should still be more than more than enough for Endless Corridors, even more so if I bring Neptune as a friend, but that might make True Endless a bitch.

I don't understand how people are doing hard 5x4s with Ra Dragon. There are only 20 slots on the board, and he needs at least 15 of those to be very specific things. Is it just a matter of bringing tons of Black Kalis and stalling their skills up every time you actually need to hurt something?

yeah basically you just stall on everything with Ra's 2.25x RCV and then when a DKali comes up you can kill

trancehime · « **Reply #829 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:51:47 AM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on October 18, 2015, 10:46:46 PM

It beats Arena too.

Doesn't mean it has an easy time with it. Scarlet System is easy to run but requires a shitton of RNG luck to NOT roll specific enemies

commandercool · « **Reply #830 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:09:23 AM »

Christ, Awoken Sopdet in challenge dungeons is so un-fun. I understand the desire on the part of the devs to throw creative curveballs and force people to change up their strategies, I really do. This is not just me being mad that Awoken Ra can't just steamroll everything. But she just does not work in PAD, it's too RNG-based. I just had two runs of Challenge 7 in a row where I was substantially lowballing my combos in order to not accidentally heal her, and both times I got skyfalls that just barely put my damage over the insta-loss threshold. I suppose I should have just gone in with Gabe, but I'm not too keen on fighting Dark Sun Ra again with him until Beyzul gets a fucking subtype.

trancehime · « **Reply #831 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:33:25 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on October 19, 2015, 02:09:23 AM

Christ, Awoken Sopdet in challenge dungeons is so un-fun. I understand the desire on the part of the devs to throw creative curveballs and force people to change up their strategies, I really do. This is not just me being mad that Awoken Ra can't just steamroll everything. But she just does not work in PAD, it's too RNG-based. I just had two runs of Challenge 7 in a row where I was substantially lowballing my combos in order to not accidentally heal her, and both times I got skyfalls that just barely put my damage over the insta-loss threshold. I suppose I should have just gone in with Gabe, but I'm not too keen on fighting Dark Sun Ra again with him until Beyzul gets a fucking subtype.

Haha. Awoken Sopdet is unfun?

Wait til you see them casually throwing in Vishnu ...

:persona:

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #832 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:39:52 AM »

The only reason I could get past Sopdet with Zaerog was because he conveniently has a x4 option in addition to his x16 and x36...

even then I had to be really careful with skyfalls. Especially since Zaerog has the wtfdark factor.

I had spare stamina before I wanted to head to bed, so I threw Zaerog at the Rare Evo Materials unite hoping for a specific drop (even though its drop rates are awful)

Got myself a stone and a fancy new green lead.

Edible · « **Reply #833 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:42:46 AM »

Quote from: Fpurin Fanatic on October 19, 2015, 02:39:52 AM

Got myself a stone and a fancy new green lead.

ONE OF US

ONE OF US

ONE OF US

cats

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #834 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:50:35 AM »

Quote from: Edible on October 19, 2015, 02:42:46 AM

ONE OF US

Do I have a cat team?

But uh
Don't start thinking I'll stop using big dog just because I have wimpy cat now

trancehime · « **Reply #835 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:53:47 AM »

Quote from: Fpurin Fanatic on October 19, 2015, 02:50:35 AM

Do I have a cat team?

Looks fine to me. You don't need GZL there though. An orb changer would be better probably.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #836 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:54:46 AM »

Quote from: Fpurin Fanatic on October 19, 2015, 02:50:35 AM

Do I have a cat team?

But uh
Don't start thinking I'll stop using big dog just because I have wimpy cat now

cat team is laughably easy to make and it's pretty much impossible not to fuck it up, so you're fine

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #837 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:59:56 AM »

uhh
I got choo choo train, Leeza, Jord, Kaguya, Armadel, green Wee Jas, Zheng Fei, Amitaka, Kano...

But the HP.

If I dive into off color utility, Awoken Amaterasu, Awoken Isis, Sachi Bros are available.

Edible · « **Reply #838 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:00:39 AM »

Quote from: Fpurin Fanatic on October 19, 2015, 02:50:35 AM

Do I have a cat team?

But uh
Don't start thinking I'll stop using big dog just because I have wimpy cat now

You probably have a better cat team than I do, due to susanoo's presence.

Thaws · « **Reply #839 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:03:30 AM »

Quote from: Fpurin Fanatic on October 19, 2015, 02:59:56 AM

uhh
I got choo choo train, Leeza, Jord, Kaguya, Armadel, green Wee Jas, Zheng Fei, Amitaka, Kano...

But the HP.

If I dive into off color utility, Awoken Amaterasu, Awoken Isis, Sachi Bros are available.

Awoken Amaterasu is really good for the double Sx
Also emergency 40% heal saves lives