Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie  (Read 94288 times)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #720 on: October 14, 2015, 05:13:15 PM »
The question is then, does this make her better than Black Kali on Awoken Ra? Very possibly. Especially if you are running Awoken Isis already.

Potentially, just because hearts would be out of the way. She's really no different from LKali as a sub though, attribute aside.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #721 on: October 14, 2015, 05:24:28 PM »
Potentially, just because hearts would be out of the way. She's really no different from LKali as a sub though, attribute aside.

Right, it's just that she's another primary-white card with two prongs to fill the black requirement, while Black Kali is black with only one prong. If matching white prongs is a high priority for Ra, and typically it is, that should be a huge bump to damage. You lose quite a lot of utility though, and maybe it's overkill damage.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #722 on: October 14, 2015, 06:04:29 PM »
I really do wonder why Laila and Vamp are 6*s...that seems pretty silly given how terrible they are by comparison to the others like Thothdet and such.

Duke's legit though.  He doesn't compare too badly to Beelzebub tbh. I can see A.Loki and him being a thing. He could use a few awakenings, but honestly, I think he's one of the better golds in the machine. I wouldn't be surprised to buffs given out to most of those cards though.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #723 on: October 14, 2015, 06:13:54 PM »
I know Alraune is really good because Dark has been lacking a good Sx provider and bind clearer and she brings both to the table. (You know people are desperate when Amir is being used)
but no matter how I look at it she's a complete inferior version of A. amaterasu, and if not for the perfect colouring Alraune would not be praised as much.
I mean that LS, Ama has 3x as base and goes up to 4x while Alraune just stays at a flat 3x, and heals half of Amaterasu per turn.
Granted including devils make team building much easier but I figured she could've had a bit better LS. :V prolly won't happen since people are really happy over the active and I see 0 complaints XD

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #724 on: October 14, 2015, 06:22:00 PM »
Duke's legit though.  He doesn't compare too badly to Beelzebub tbh. I can see A.Loki and him being a thing. He could use a few awakenings, but honestly, I think he's one of the better golds in the machine. I wouldn't be surprised to buffs given out to most of those cards though.
Oh yeah, as a CARD I think Duke is fantastic.  If I didnt own Claire I'd totally be excited for him if I pulled him.  Give him like two more Awakenings and I think he'd be pretty amazing though.

Then again there is also chibiValk who despite being a 5*, is pretty ridiculous despite the simplicity of her Awakenings before ult. (especially since she is a special variant of a SEVEN star card, farmable or not)

Fake edit:  i think HAlraune being a lesser A.Ammy is completely fine.  I mean, she comes prepped to use out of the box while Ammy needs a lot of work to reach Awoken form, so the power discrepancy I think is more than fair I think.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #725 on: October 14, 2015, 06:25:17 PM »
The problem with Duke is that he really doesn't bring much to the table that his older forms did not already do-- it's really just the two forms combined with Bub's LS. Which, in and of itself is all fine, but it just doesn't feel fitting, honestly, for a collab super rare to just be a kind of combination of a bunch of things that are already farmable and fairly easy to obtain.

But he is solid, I won't disagree with that-- I just wish he was kinda... a little more unique, I guess?

Thoth and Sopdet and Izanami got huge revamps here, meanwhile, because their LS changes make them both viable leaders, and have some pretty stellar awakenings on top of that. Good stats, good awakenings, good LSs, all in a neat 20 cost package that sets them apart from their original counterparts, filling positions that were not being very well-filled until now.

I do hope that Halloween Izanami and Vamp Duke do bring more interest to Dark Balanced though. With a nice setup, Halloween Izanami could be an utterly terrifying leader, and Vamp's more solid incarnation is versatile on pretty much any dark team.

I know Alraune is really good because Dark has been lacking a good Sx provider and bind clearer and she brings both to the table. (You know people are desperate when Amir is being used)
but no matter how I look at it she's a complete inferior version of A. amaterasu, and if not for the perfect colouring Alraune would not be praised as much.
I mean that LS, Ama has 3x as base and goes up to 4x while Alraune just stays at a flat 3x, and heals half of Amaterasu per turn.
Granted including devils make team building much easier but I figured she could've had a bit better LS. :V prolly won't happen since people are really happy over the active and I see 0 complaints XD

I will not admit I just want to see dark healers be a thing

I think Alraune's solid, yeah, especially since if worst comes to worst, you have a quick haste even if bind clearing isn't needed-- which is in a sense kind of a waste of a skill, but it's flexible so at least it does something even if you DON'T need the bind clearing-- and an unbindable bind clearer is something Dark types have lacked for a while (at least, one that isn't DKali or Aamir), and she brings a lot to the table in utility. I like her, though I'm not sure she's something I'd invest Badpy into right now. Maybe if the halloween dungeon has skillups for her...

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #726 on: October 14, 2015, 06:34:15 PM »
I know Alraune is really good because Dark has been lacking a good Sx provider and bind clearer and she brings both to the table. (You know people are desperate when Amir is being used)
but no matter how I look at it she's a complete inferior version of A. amaterasu, and if not for the perfect colouring Alraune would not be praised as much.
I mean that LS, Ama has 3x as base and goes up to 4x while Alraune just stays at a flat 3x, and heals half of Amaterasu per turn.
Granted including devils make team building much easier but I figured she could've had a bit better LS. :V prolly won't happen since people are really happy over the active and I see 0 complaints XD

I would honestly be hella surprised if she even came close, it's a special rem gold vs an awoken god, there shouldn't be any contest. Though it is amusing that she is the one that is going to start dark healer aside from claire.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #727 on: October 14, 2015, 06:39:14 PM »
I hope this REM has Heroes like PAD Academy did. If it does, it can have all my stones. If not I'll probably just do one or two pulls. I know I'll just get 100% chibis either way, but whatever.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #729 on: October 14, 2015, 07:06:47 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #730 on: October 14, 2015, 07:12:23 PM »
What about Beelzebae though?  :(

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #731 on: October 14, 2015, 07:19:18 PM »
I hope this REM has Heroes like PAD Academy did. If it dies, it can have all my stones. If not I'll probably just do one or two pulls. I know I'll just get 100% chibis either way, but whatever.

Calling archdemons and assorted Devils for the non-exclusive stuff, myself. Which is... Ugh. I don't need any more of them, I already have most of 'em.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #732 on: October 14, 2015, 07:26:01 PM »
Calling archdemons and assorted Devils for the non-exclusive stuff, myself. Which is... Ugh. I don't need any more of them, I already have most of 'em.

Probably true, but I hope not. Archdemons are by faaaar the worst pantheon in my opinion. Is there another spooky pantheon? Not really I guess.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #733 on: October 14, 2015, 07:31:57 PM »
Archdemons desperately need secondary evos.  FA Luci could probably use a Super Evo? too.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #734 on: October 14, 2015, 07:48:37 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #735 on: October 14, 2015, 08:17:42 PM »
Gonna throw out there that Halloween Duke's LS is not Beelzebub's.

Beelzebub only boosts Devil; Duke boosts Dark.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #736 on: October 14, 2015, 08:28:42 PM »
Gonna throw out there that Halloween Duke's LS is not Beelzebub's.

Beelzebub only boosts Devil; Duke boosts Dark.

True, that opens up options like Ookuni and Izanami. I still wouldn't mind Duke getting an extra row though. He feels like he has just the bare essentials right now. I think he should be flashier, but I don't know that would be good. Skill bind resist? Orb enhance Maybe a time extend to be different from Claire?
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #737 on: October 14, 2015, 09:37:31 PM »
Okay, I missed that, then. Being a full dark 2/2.5 is pretty nice, yeah. Leaves a lot more freedom in building Beelzebub-esque teams.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #738 on: October 14, 2015, 09:57:15 PM »
Ah, I had not considered just how ridiculous one could get with the colro LS as opposed to a typebound one...Yeah, he could get some REALLY wacky stuff going probably, huh? 

I wonder how many stones I'll have by then, anyway...?  Also wondering just which chibis they're cramming in there as well so as to have a bunch of "losing" rolls to entice people to try more for the better stuff...
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #739 on: October 14, 2015, 10:13:38 PM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #740 on: October 14, 2015, 11:52:55 PM »
Just says thanks for the BF, and best of luck to the both of us or something like that. Something awkward to translate into English.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #741 on: October 15, 2015, 12:21:59 AM »
Thanks for the transation ;)

Urgh, my "team" right now really needs some help and variety: LKali as leader and Keepers/Golems as subs. Over 15k HP but non-existent RCV, and even pairing with DQXQ doesn't cut it anymore.....

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #742 on: October 15, 2015, 01:04:03 AM »
Considered using Sandalphon as a sub to buff that RCV and damage reduction?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #743 on: October 15, 2015, 01:19:15 AM »
Considered using Sandalphon as a sub to buff that RCV and damage reduction?

 :o And how am i supposed to beat his descent dungeon when i can't even finish clearing the legendary dragons normals?

My team right now is: base LKali lv 47, Keeper of Gold, Dub-Mythlit, Keeper of Rainbow, Midgard lv 64, uevo LKali  :blush:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #744 on: October 15, 2015, 01:29:29 AM »
Oh... Right.

Um. Not really sure how to improve upon LKali without diving into descend bosses or other REM monsters. Sorry, mate.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #745 on: October 15, 2015, 01:56:18 AM »
Shoehorning Echidna in there somewhere is probably worth it. It'll tank your HP, but she does kick ass early in the game.

Gungho, buff Echidna please. I want to be able to use her again.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #746 on: October 15, 2015, 02:23:42 AM »
Remember Santa Genie?

Stars =/= quality.

Santa Genie was a straight upgrade from the regular Genie, even possessing God subtype.

Comparing Vampire Duke to his original form, the Halloween form is a straight upgrade too (3 shitty awakenings to 4 very good ones), including some stats

Laila's probably the only one who's outright mediocre, since no one will use her when in JP Romanoff exists and CyberDragon Diadem is arguably better for row system teams.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #747 on: October 15, 2015, 02:24:21 AM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #748 on: October 15, 2015, 05:25:21 AM »
EU v8.2 update is finished. FF Collab music and REM data found in it.

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« Reply #749 on: October 15, 2015, 05:51:44 AM »


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