Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie

[Mr. Sacchi]

I don't know that I'm completely comfortable with the "high cost justifies crazyballs insane power" line of thought*, but if that's the case, wtb Beyzul uvo that costs 50 orbs.

Active gets changed to 6 max 1 min cd, typing becomes dragon/healer/god, gains 300 RCV in stats, leader skill becomes 4.5x atk for water & healer types when HP > 80% and x1,5 atk for dragon types, awakes become bind immunity, double TPA, double row and double skillboosts.

gungho pls

[The Greatest Dog]

Inb4 Beyzul gets two ults

one of which costs five jewels
the other costs five uvo'd Beyzuls

I mean, if Zaerog can do it, why can't Beyzul?

[Mr. Sacchi]

Inb4 normal Zaerog gets another 3 uvos, the first one requiring the cat dragons (Nyan Zaerog!), the second one requiring uvo'd Sonia Gran and a bunch of jewels and the third requires all other four uvos + evolved Zaerog Infinity;

Or heck, make all of the dragon emperors have two uvos like FFanatic said and make a new Zaerog uvo that requires all of the mega-mega uvos of the dragon emperors + a mega-uvo of Sonia Gran that requires uvo zaerog infinity;

Let's just keep piling everything up!

[commandercool]

I have the jewels and the interest, I'd totally do it.

I expect to see Wangren and Beyzul uvos where they use each other as materials and gain the other's type as a subtype. Leader skill becomes "4x ATK for primary color above 80%, 1.5x something for secondary color". Wangren gains a skillboost and a prong, Beyzul gains a skillboost and a row. Wangren becomes Dragon/Attacker, Beyzul becomes Dragon/Physical (maybe throw in God or Devil as well?). That would be plenty acceptable to me, even if it comes with high cost and an active reset (and maybe added haste).

[commandercool]

With ultimate Verdandi coming out eventually and Awoken Susano being a thing, I'm finding myself increasingly wanting to put Armadel on my Verdandi team. She would make getting three sets of prongs off of every Verdandi active a lot more likely, and I know her extra orb enhances do a lot of work, but I'm not sure exactly how much.

Right now my team is Verd/Cu Chu/Liu Bei/GZL/Susano/Verd. Do you think there's any merit in cutting GZL for Armadel? I need to stack skillboosts less because Susano's cooldown just got a lot shorter, but breaking up the Murder Twins feels weird, and she definitely will hit a lot less hard than GZL even if she does bump up everyone else's damage and make Verdandi more reliable.

Is there anything else you would cut instead? Maybe Cu Chu? Or do you think the team is better as is?

[OverlordChirei]

Inb4 Beyzul gets two ults

one of which costs five jewels
the other costs five uvo'd Beyzuls

I mean, if Zaerog can do it, why can't Beyzul?

You also need a ridiculously chuuni name to go with the self-ult

Cryo Dragon Emperor of Deepest Frost, Beyzul Infinity

[Mr. Sacchi]

Eternal Freeze Cryo Twin Dragon of Absolute Zero, Dragon Lord Emperor Beyzul∞

(Worst part is I could totally see Gungho doing that, especially after Original!Uvo Zaerog's japanese name ended up being literally "King of the Black Skies, Dragon Lord Zaerog" and that was in a time were names were actually simple.)

[The Greatest Dog]

I probably don't need to field a third Byakko when I have a hyper Persephone, right? I really just want to get this over with.

Edit:
Holy shit level 9 clear

[commandercool]

I've barely even looked at these challenge dungeons. Been too busy with +eggs. And that effort has gotten me a near-hypermax white Kali, so that cool. When she's done I'm going to do the other white Kali, and hopefully by the time I'm finished with that I'll have... You know.

I feel like all of this grinding with Verdandi has made me a lot better at prongs, though. I can now semi-consistently get three or four off of most Verdandi boards (often after an orbchange) which is cool.

[The Greatest Dog]

see the thing is, I want to get prongs with Zaerog
But Byakko keeps giving me only 9 dark orbs.  Then the skyfalls come in and save the day and cause that sort of damage.

Also I really want to hypermax Zaerog. This is way too fun to pass up on.

Fatty really scared me in this dungeon, but as it turns out I only need 16 dark orbs to kill him. Thank Hades for that Persephone active.

[commandercool]

That active is a ton of fun to play with. I've been really enjoying messing around with Krishna to have an excuse to use a team with it. But Krishna, unlike Zaerog, is extremely squishy, which makes me want to avoid it for actual content, at least until I get a good, fast red orbchange. If he didn't already have a severe skillboost deficit from his trashy awakenings I would strongly consider Gigas as a sub for him (although tanking that team's awful recovery even more would be rough), but he does.

[trancehime]

Halloween Gacha stuff.

Golds:

Halloween Laila (D/D), sucks even though she got an SB. Not good for a 6*

Halloween Vampire Lord (D/R), same LS as UVO Beelzebub. Okay-ish awakenings. Mediocre for a 6*

Silvers:

Halloween L.Izanami (D/B) - Same style as Beach Awilda - 5 Dark OE, 3 Light Resists, 1 Skill Boost. Uses Liza's AS. LS is same as Liza's LS except also boost God and cut RCV instead of HP by 1/2. Very good.

Halloween Thoth&Sopdet (D/L) - TPA, Skill Boost, SBR, 2 Dark OE, 4 Dark Resists. Uses Sopdet's AS, but might get buffed to 6 CD. LS is the same as Sopdet's LS except added 5 seconds of matching time. One of the best Dark heartmakers in the game now.

More to come maybe.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/654207161887649792
HALLOWEEN ALRAUNE
AS - clear 4 turns of bind, haste 1 turn
LS - Devil / Healer ATK x3, auto-heal 5x RCV after orbs elim

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/654207541837099008
halloween blonia
AS - board change dark/water, haste 2 turns
LS - dragon / physical HP x2, ATK x2.5, when combo 6+, atk up by a bit (x1.2?)

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/654224652437327872
halloween mistress kali
AS - same as LKali
LS - same as non-ult LKali but with HP/RCV boost to Gods and Devils

[MatsuriSakuragi]

uhhh

it's a very good thing I'm getting the Nexus 5X that comes with a $50 google play credit

I am rolling the shit out of this

tbh fuck most of the rares-- vamp ain't that much better than his original (and his LS is... well, we already have Bub for that) and no one cares about the wizards because their stats are garbage

Alraune and HBlonia (Dronia? it's about time the Sonia rainbow was complete :V) are legit great but

to be honest I just want the 4*s, they seem to be absolutely fucking stellar and I want dupes of each because holy shit that's versatile

HIza is a fantastic sub for any dark OE team (hello, AYomi and Nephthys and Z8) and having your RCV cut instead of HP kinda makes her a more limited but stronger Dark TAMApurin

HT&S is the real prize though-- amazing awakenings, solid stats, fills a void that dark has had for a long time by being a fast heartmaker THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH TYPHON :*

I cannot properly summarize how hype I am just for the 4*s alone.

edit: I totally misread HBlonia's LS

holy shit son she can be 4/6.25 to 9/1 or paired with normal blonia she can be 2/6.25 to 7.5/2.5 which is uh.... wow

I actually kinda like how these are hilariously OP without having insane ATK mults


EDIT: HALLOWEEN LKALI HOLY SHIT (D/L)

GIVE ME NOW

Same stats as ult LKali, same AS, LS is 5x for RBLD and HP/RCV boost to God and Devil types instead of the combo mult booster

and rly good art

[trancehime]

https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/654229366390452224

big balance stuff coming up for later this month.

[Espadas]

Ok some Halloween monsters are really good/cute.... buuuut LOLCHIBIAVALANCHE will trump everyone so i'll only roll 1/2 times without expectations.

Speaking of cute and good monsters..... GODDAMMIT GUNGHO WHY DID YOU MAKE HALRAUNE SO CUTE ?!?!
I already have an hard time with our resident Alraune-addicted, now this....

I am honestly curious about Chirei's reaction  :3

[Jq1790]

Maybe LKali will be in the MP shop as well?  She IS an 8* card so possibly.

I'm loving a lot of those, but yeah really dont care about Vamp/Laila, but all those others are good for sure!  Wondering just how bad the Chibipocalypse is gonna be though...

[Mr. Sacchi]

Maybe LKali will be in the MP shop as well?  She IS an 8* card so possibly.

I'm loving a lot of those, but yeah really dont care about Vamp/Laila, but all those others are good for sure!  Wondering just how bad the Chibipocalypse is gonna be though...

Confirmed to be a part of the MP Shop AND a part of the REM.

Meanwhile, Level 7 Challenge cleared, because Vishnu is great I guess.

It's kinda disgusting how I can deal enough damage to kill Golden Keeper without popping GZL, it's also kinda disgusting that a simple TPA + 1 green combo is enough to kill the blue mask (Which forces me to GZL through the green mask defense).

Isis isn't even a threat because lolblue.

Sopdet was the hardest part, and by that I mean "skyfalls pls no green combos pls"

Wonder if I can do challenge 8...

*checks* nope, not even gonna waste my time, I have plus eggs to farm.

[Espadas]

Maybe LKali will be in the MP shop as well?  She IS an 8* card so possibly.

I'm loving a lot of those, but yeah really dont care about Vamp/Laila, but all those others are good for sure!  Wondering just how bad the Chibipocalypse is gonna be though...

PSX says that HKali will be in both.

On a different note, i'm beginning to think my Verche is some sort of prank from Gungho..... he is the 2nd or 3rd monster i brought to max level and he "survived" uncountable attempts to skill him up. He is doing an awesome job now too with the Light Carnival....
I know for a fact that he is at the very least 0/70, since i clearly remember going 0/20 the first time i tried to specifically skill him up, and getting really pissed when the second time (trying to one-up myself) went 0/30.... add 0/8 right now, the random tries along the way, and you get a real trooper  :fail:

EDIT; Sacchi'd ninja'd

[MatsuriSakuragi]

HKali being in our MP shop is questionable, however, since we've yet to see Claire in there (and probably won't until next year). It really makes me torn though, between getting her or Yomi Dragon...

[trancehime]

HKali being in our MP shop is questionable, however, since we've yet to see Claire in there (and probably won't until next year). It really makes me torn though, between getting her or Yomi Dragon...

The only reason why Claire wasn't in NA's MP store is because when Claire was part of Summer REM stuffs, the MP Store wasn't part of NA client yet.

They don't have excuse not to copy JP and put HalloKali in the MP Shop anymore.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I suppose so. And I guess my decision will be motivated more on whether or not I end up pulling HKali as it is, since I've got a lot of free stones incoming (new phone I'm getting comes with $50 play credit and my day 700 is Oct 30, so it gives me a snowball's chance at getting her).

Meanwhile!



That took way too damned long. One down, though.

[commandercool]

Do we know anything else about HKali? Is she W/B with the same awakenings? If so then I'm pretty happy with that. Gungho usually does okay with the "chase" cards by making them recolored and retyped versions of popular cards that aren't strictly better, but Beach Claire left a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like this time though they could have flip-flopped a lot of the golds and silvers and nobody would raise an eyebrow, and that's pretty cool.

[The Greatest Dog]

Today I learned, Zaerog Infinity x4 will kill Sopdet in an adequate number of turns
Zaerog Infinity x16 will fully heal her, on the other hand.

still no-stoned

I'm pretty hype for Halloween Izanami. But I'll miss the Dark Izanami active skill. Even if Halloween uses Lizzy's active, Lizzy doesn't even drop 100℅ of the time in her dungeon, so the skillups...

[Espadas]

Today I learned, Zaerog Infinity x4 will kill Sopdet in an adequate number of turns
Zaerog Infinity x16 will fully heal her, on the other hand.

Gungtroll logic at its finest  :V

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Do we know anything else about HKali? Is she W/B with the same awakenings? If so then I'm pretty happy with that. Gungho usually does okay with the "chase" cards by making them recolored and retyped versions of popular cards that aren't strictly better, but Beach Claire left a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like this time though they could have flip-flopped a lot of the golds and silvers and nobody would raise an eyebrow, and that's pretty cool.

Like I said, she's D/L, typing God/Devil.

She has the same awakenings as normal LKali, and the same AS, but her LS is now her old LS (Fire/Water/Light/Dark for 5x) plus HP and RCV boosts for God and Devil types. And of course, new art, with LKali wearing a black dress next to a mirror reflecting her normal self.

All of the halloween stuff can be found here:
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=406

[commandercool]

The question is then, does this make her better than Black Kali on Awoken Ra? Very possibly. Especially if you are running Awoken Isis already.

[trancehime]

The question is then, does this make her better than Black Kali on Awoken Ra? Very possibly. Especially if you are running Awoken Isis already.

For Awoken Ra?

Probably.

[OverlordChirei]

I am honestly curious about Chirei's reaction  :3

I don't reasonably expect to get her being non IAP, but at the same time I should be glad she's now spreading her influence to dark, possibly making her more used than Echidna now.

[Jq1790]

I really do wonder why Laila and Vamp are 6*s...that seems pretty silly given how terrible they are by comparison to the others like Thothdet and such.

[The Greatest Dog]

Remember Santa Genie?

Stars =/= quality.