Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie

[Suikama]

5 HP latents also beats out having rainbow resist for cards that have over like I think 4k hp?

I know Ra dragon always wants them and it lets his team hit 30k HP despite having no HP multiplers

[MatsuriSakuragi]

A friend and I math'd it out. The only time HP latents give a higher value than running full rainbow resist is if it's on Satan, Noah, or Gigas.

[Suikama]

wow i literally died to super king in zaerog because my finger slipped

like there was too much friction so my finger just bumpped off the phone

also 1.5x is limited time? welp i thought i could farm this more

[The Greatest Dog]

hurr my phone lagged out when I was trying to combo against Zaerog.

Then I noticed the rain in the background.

A quick visit to the Options later, I solved it, but the damage couldn't be undone.

Dinkleberg.

That said, if I'm allowed to get past HMD without popping either Big Dog, I'm basically allowed the win as long as I don't fuck up the first Zaerog form.
I can pop Ariel and Valk against HMD, since:
Zaerog reduces cd to five max for Valk;
Killing Zaerog's first form will take three turns (2 remaining)
Zaerog will waste a turn removing a Big Dog buff (1 remaining)
Apocalypse. Ded. Get rekt.

Unless I don't actually need Big Dog to kill 6 million dark HP.
According to Endless Corridors, I should have no problem with that, even without level 99 mobs or Big Dog.

[commandercool]

A friend and I math'd it out. The only time HP latents give a higher value than running full rainbow resist is if it's on Satan, Noah, or Gigas.

Or on a team with an HP modifier. Right? I guess someone would have to do the math on whether  HP up is worth it on certain amounts of base HP at certain modifiers. Is it worth it on Verdandi on a team with two Verdandi leads, for example?

[Suikama]

well this is case specific to Ra Dragon team since I crunched the numbers for him

5 HP tama is 353 HP on a Ra Dragon

For a latent resist tama to block that much damage it would be vs a 35300 damage attack, which is way over the team's max HP

So vs any hit less than 35300, HP is giving more overall survivability

The difference is slight but it's there

The bigger advantage to resists is you can stack them to tank bigger hits like DQ preemptive

[Suikama]

Zaerog8 down

Isis still best girl


Floor 9 is by far the hardest

6 combo is already bad, but no actives on top of that is dumb because you can get orb trolled on top of failing your combo

I almost died because I had no water orbs during the second attack

But somehow I hit him to exactly 50% with just my sub atts

[commandercool]

Still no Latent Tamadras after doing nothing but farming them today and doing quite a few runs yesterday. That's okay though, I assume I'm saving up my karma so I can get a bunch of the RCV one, which is the one I actually want.

Right Gungho?

RIGHT?

[The Greatest Dog]

Many thanks to the people in IRC who helped me through my combo incompetence.



It happened.
Big Dog versus Small Rog.

[trancehime]

well this is case specific to Ra Dragon team since I crunched the numbers for him

5 HP tama is 353 HP on a Ra Dragon

Ra Dragon with +99 HP and 5 HP total to around 6000 HP, which is pretty good. Some people who run Ra Dragon put the HP latents on Ra Dragon, resists on all the subs.

[Chaore]

zoorog down

messed up five shivas punching him screencap thou

[OverlordChirei]

I demand that Alraune be put in her own section next to my ID on the front page with her name emblazoned in gold or something fancy.

zoorog down

messed up five shivas punching him screencap thou

It's illegal to put that much punching in a screenshot anyway

[Yukarin]

Dorakyura a friend of mine is going to add you.

She runs Neph, and I thought she might need a bit of help.

[Suikama]

I demand that Alraune be put in her own section next to my ID on the front page with her name emblazoned in gold or something fancy.



It's illegal to put that much punching in a screenshot anyway

-My invade rate was 5/13 on Zhao Yun Mythical.

:matsuriscowl:

[trancehime]

Uh. Sure. Why not.

[OverlordChirei]

:matsuriscowl:

you get that broom away from me son

EDIT: Obligatory

[03:08] <Chirei> "Pleased to meet you - TAMA!"
[03:11] <Chaore> you know i was about to joke about how you'd find them easily and be like 'guys it's not that bad' but
[03:11] <Chaore> seeing it actually happen...

[commandercool]

:matsuriscowl:

Yeah seconded. I'm 0/21 0/22 0/23 0/24 0/25 overall so far.

[Jq1790]

Chirei stealin all the stat TAMAs, haha.

[Suikama]

chirei is clearly a witch

i say its lynching time

[Edible]

##vote chirei

[OverlordChirei]

chirei is clearly a witch

i say its lynching time

Yo why does everyone think i'm a witch, I'm just a normal dood playing a video game

I call discrimination against doods

[The Greatest Dog]

The guy whose Big Dog I use sure knows how to celebrate our victories.

That couch, though.

[Suikama]

i died to challenge 4

this game is too hard

nerf every card and dungeon

[OverlordChirei]

The guy whose Big Dog I use sure knows how to celebrate our victories.

That couch, though.

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[Mеа]

Woah I just beat that basic Hera descended challenge no problem with Kirin. I'm stunned, I thought my level was way lower than these. I guess I'll try some of the 50 stamina ones now

[commandercool]

All of this complete wasted, absolutely-zero-yield farming is starting to get really frustrating. No Tamadras, no skillups, no +eggs, nothing at all from anything. Aside from relatively meager experience gain I might as well just not have played for the last three days aside from those couple of Zaerog8 runs for all I have to show for it. And on top of that it's best for me to farm Zhao Yun with Ra, which is exhausting.

Although for the record, if I'm seeing this right I think I learned something new in the process of farming Zhao Yun. As far as I can tell, movetime modifiers are exclusive just like attack modifiers are. This is interesting though, because unlike attack modifiers enemies can give you movetime modifiers. This means that when Dragon Shogun reduces my movetime I can use Awoken Ra's active to not only get a time boost, but also erase the remaining moves of time penalty. Maybe this is common knowledge, but I never realized it and it's pretty handy.

[Chaore]

Maybe this is common knowledge, but I never realized it and it's pretty handy.

We've known for a while, but it might've only been mentioned in IRC. It's one of the reasons I've stated Bastet's active is 'Not Really Useless at All' (TM).

[Edible]

Bastet's active is in fact super useful on Bastet teams both for the time increase and for activating her own leader skill on a 5-turn cycle.

It remains almost completely pointless for the target-all.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Although for the record, if I'm seeing this right I think I learned something new in the process of farming Zhao Yun. As far as I can tell, movetime modifiers are exclusive just like attack modifiers are. This is interesting though, because unlike attack modifiers enemies can give you movetime modifiers. This means that when Dragon Shogun reduces my movetime I can use Awoken Ra's active to not only get a time boost, but also erase the remaining moves of time penalty. Maybe this is common knowledge, but I never realized it and it's pretty handy.

I remember stating this sometime ago here when I did Izanami for the first time with my Horus team, my main strategy was effectively putting DIza on a 2 turn delay by countering her orb movetime modifier with horus's, overwriting hers and forcing her to do it again next turn.

[Suikama]

okay challenge 1-8 cleared

funny enough i keep underestimating my own damage by hacking down the final bosses to 75% and then bursting, only to deal way over 100% anyways


challenge 9 doesn't look too bad...

if it weren't for the fact that half the dungeon is wood >___>


challenge 10 lol no thanks hera