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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #150 on: September 21, 2015, 01:09:49 PM »
Yamato Takeru is pretty cool.





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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #151 on: September 21, 2015, 01:24:38 PM »
A whole lot of green jewels and woodpys later, Meimei is now max skilled.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #152 on: September 21, 2015, 01:54:34 PM »
Yamato Takeru is pretty cool.

I actually use Yamato as a non-dupe lead with Shiva Dragon to do some speed farming setups. He's strong, and definitely worth hypermaxing

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #153 on: September 21, 2015, 02:08:38 PM »
Can we stop havibg Wadatsumi on every single descend challenge please? For sheer unpleasantness his dungeon is topped only by Medjed and Zhao Yun in my opinion. I think I've proven I can beat him by this point, so can I just get a pass?
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #154 on: September 21, 2015, 02:24:50 PM »
Can we stop havibg Wadatsumi on every single descend challenge please? For sheer unpleasantness his dungeon is topped only by Medjed and Zhao Yun in my opinion. I think I've proven I can beat him by this point, so can I just get a pass?

I think Wadashitty is way worse than Medjed and Zhao Yun actually D:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #155 on: September 21, 2015, 02:39:35 PM »
I think Wadashitty is way worse than Medjed and Zhao Yun actually D:

I dunno. I can just Luci Wadatsumi away, though, if I have faster way to deal with UmiYama bros, I'll use that instead. Medjed's switch crap is really annoying. He hits annoyingly hard too. I can't say much about Zhao Yun. I thought the most annoying part of his dungeon was Divinegon.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #156 on: September 21, 2015, 02:42:57 PM »
I dunno. I can just Luci Wadatsumi away, though, if I have faster way to deal with UmiYama bros, I'll use that instead. Medjed's switch crap is really annoying. He hits annoyingly hard too. I can't say much about Zhao Yun. I thought the most annoying part of his dungeon was Divinegon.

I don't have Luci, I have to use Verdandi.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #157 on: September 21, 2015, 03:42:37 PM »
Can we stop havibg Wadatsumi on every single descend challenge please? For sheer unpleasantness his dungeon is topped only by Medjed and Zhao Yun in my opinion. I think I've proven I can beat him by this point, so can I just get a pass?

A lot of people seem to have a lot of problem with this dungeon for some reason, and it seems to persist even at the top echelons of players. Is it bad that I personally don't find him that hard?

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #158 on: September 21, 2015, 03:46:08 PM »


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #159 on: September 21, 2015, 03:50:20 PM »
A lot of people seem to have a lot of problem with this dungeon for some reason, and it seems to persist even at the top echelons of players. Is it bad that I personally don't find him that hard?

It's not hard, at least not exceptionally so. Wadatsumi probably barely makes the top ten hardest descends in my opinion. It's just so annoying. U&Y is one of the slowest and most annoying fights in the game for a blue team, and if you're going to die in that dungeon it's almost always completely your fault because you reflexively tried to do something that takes awakenings.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #160 on: September 21, 2015, 04:22:26 PM »


See how much HP I had left? See LZL's awoken skills?

That extra 20% RCV inches his heal by 1420, which apparently just barely saved my rear end.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #161 on: September 21, 2015, 04:25:47 PM »


What are you gonna use her for?

Mamiya is so strange to me. Great awakenings, great skill despite needing flampy, but her stats are pretty shoddy even at hypermax.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #162 on: September 21, 2015, 04:43:14 PM »
A lot of people seem to have a lot of problem with this dungeon for some reason, and it seems to persist even at the top echelons of players. Is it bad that I personally don't find him that hard?

I don't think so. If you have tankiness. Umiyama becomes much less of an asshole. Outside of him, there's nothing really annoying in the dungeon. Most of the people complaining are ones who can't take 2-3 attacks from him without healing.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #163 on: September 21, 2015, 04:48:46 PM »
I don't think so. If you have tankiness. Umiyama becomes much less of an asshole. Outside of him, there's nothing really annoying in the dungeon. Most of the people complaining are ones who can't take 2-3 attacks from him without healing.

Most people, maybe, but oh god not me. I can eat attacks from them all day, but it takes me f-o-r-e-v-er to kill them because they constantly steal my orbs and spend a lot of time being green. Ugh.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #164 on: September 21, 2015, 05:19:25 PM »
I managed to take Wadatsumi with Lkali and statsticks. It took me a couple of tries only because of orb trolled on leviathan or me killing the first floor too quickly that a board reset wasn't up yet.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #165 on: September 21, 2015, 05:49:48 PM »
Yeah, I'm still too inconsistent with rainbow leads to try to do it with Ra without skillboosts and time extends. Even best-case scenario I probably wouldn't try it because of the first floor trollage potential.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #166 on: September 21, 2015, 06:24:53 PM »
I don't think so. If you have tankiness. Umiyama becomes much less of an asshole. Outside of him, there's nothing really annoying in the dungeon. Most of the people complaining are ones who can't take 2-3 attacks from him without healing.

I mean, I beat him using Alraune and all farmable units on my end, so I know how trivial he is, but that just makes me even more baffled because people with whaled cards can't do it.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #167 on: September 21, 2015, 06:45:35 PM »
Alraune is a tank leader though :V

Also there's not as much difference between farmables and REM monsters when awoken skills are diabled

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #168 on: September 21, 2015, 06:50:46 PM »
Alraune is a tank leader though :V

Also there's not as much difference between farmables and REM monsters when awoken skills are diabled

those hypermax doe

EDIT: This is the kind of shit i'm talking about lmao, seems "just use tank team" doesn't work even with whales

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #169 on: September 21, 2015, 07:27:16 PM »
I mean, I beat him using Alraune and all farmable units on my end, so I know how trivial he is, but that just makes me even more baffled because people with whaled cards can't do it.

I was under the impression that was less they can't and more they don't want to. One of the people complaining about it, (think it was Wishy), mentioned that Luci "farms him like a champ." They want fast farming teams, and a lot of those struggle with Umiyama when awakenings are disabled.

I'd think that batman team should have been able to take care of Umiyama though.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #170 on: September 21, 2015, 07:34:35 PM »
Apparently the guy tried to do tpas on them... smh

Also another person with shiva dragon keeps getting bodied. No awk too strong for mainstream players

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #171 on: September 21, 2015, 07:58:08 PM »
I managed to take Wadatsumi with Lkali and statsticks. It took me a couple of tries only because of orb trolled on leviathan or me killing the first floor too quickly that a board reset wasn't up yet.
This is my current plan as Wadatsumi is the next on my to-beat-up list because I must have every Woodpy.  We'll see how well this goes!

Edit: Answer is yes.  I may or may not have roflstomped that dungeon but my LKali team is somewhat beastly and :whale: and yeah as long as you don't get Floor 1 Orbtrolled since you don't have skillboosts to save you that was definitely the correct way for me to beat him/her up.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #172 on: September 21, 2015, 08:42:08 PM »
Ah ha ha I almost just died on Cauchemar Legend with Verdandi what the fuck am I doing. I was expecting it to be Satan because I apparently don't know what dungeons are called, and apparently my brain just shuts down if it gets even slightly surprised.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #173 on: September 21, 2015, 10:50:20 PM »
I had way more trouble on Cauchemar than was logical I swear half the time I run into combo shields I forget how 2 game :fail:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #174 on: September 21, 2015, 11:12:11 PM »
Meanwhile my hypermaxxed vishnu BFF is nowhere to be found and I need me some pys ;_;

Time to tough it out with Horus I guess.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #175 on: September 22, 2015, 12:44:57 AM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #176 on: September 22, 2015, 01:43:33 AM »
What are you gonna use her for?

Mamiya is so strange to me. Great awakenings, great skill despite needing flampy, but her stats are pretty shoddy even at hypermax.

Scarlet Descended when I plan to Shiva Dragon farm her. I just need 1 or 2 Ares to complete the team.

Very good for dungeons with pre-emptive jammer spam (I ran Mamiya when I was speedfarming Batman Collab 2 Gotham to one-turn kill Joker, for example) also if I run Shiva Dragon

She's a solid niche sub IMO, very legit, and thanks to the 4 Dark Resists it allows me to tank a lot of fuck-off attacks I normally wouldn't be able to.

EDIT: Also my Mamiya isn't LV99 yet. The stats won't be much better at hypermax but I feel they need to be hypermax for her to be even worth using on harder descends.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #177 on: September 22, 2015, 04:57:34 AM »
One small detail I seem to have missed before charging in with Kirin

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #178 on: September 22, 2015, 09:29:41 AM »
One small detail I seem to have missed before charging in with Kirin

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 24: Attack On Big Flamie
« Reply #179 on: September 22, 2015, 10:35:27 AM »
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