Undertale

[BT]

Today I learned

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the part in Geno where Flowey calls out the viewers for watching someone else run the game instead of tainting their own save file ISN'T a catch-all line, but the game actually checks for applied recording software before inserting that.

I'm blown away.

[Jq1790]

Today I learned

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the part in Geno where Flowey calls out the viewers for watching someone else run the game instead of tainting their own save file ISN'T a catch-all line, but the game actually checks for applied recording software before inserting that.

I'm blown away.

The Dev really DOES think of everything, huh?

[MatsuriSakuragi]

What do you mean by "applied"? Because I got that message too and had nothing on with the game.

[Jana]

I just beat the gamelast night, Neutral+Pacifist. I'm gonna just not open it anymore and let Flowey be. =w=

[BT]

What do you mean by "applied"? Because I got that message too and had nothing on with the game.

Uh, I thought people surely tested it. Hope I didn't just echo a rumor.

I'm not sure how stuff like Fraps works but if it's set on a window can the window's process know about it? Or check if a process like that is running on the PC at all. Sounds reasonable in theory.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Unless the game detects the existence of the recording software on the hard drive regardless of whether or not it's on, I'll say it's probably just a rumor. I have OBS on my laptop but I've never had it on while playing Undertale, yet I still had that message.

[ChronaSE]

Is

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Gaster

relevant to the story?

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It seems like the only character that didn't get a good ending.

[Stuffman]

The game has been thoroughly datamined and Gaster's shit is currently unresolved. It's suggested that Toby is working on a patch with more content, we'll see what happens then.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Pls finish hard mode

[Pywackett-Barchetta]

I have extremely loved this game, but sweet babies, I am terrified to try to finish the Neutral Ending. Fourth wall shenanigans get me easily.

[Tamashii Kanjou]

I'm on both sides when it comes to messing around with the 4th wall. If done right, it can really hit you where it hurts; or put a smile on your face. It always comes down to the writing, and if the characters play on it too much...

Meanwhile, here I am, setting up to continue my run into Undertale; part 3 now. Going to explore the lab, and see what puzzles wait for me here... should be straight forward~ XD

Link to my twitch if you want to watch~ <3

EDIT: Ended after the fight with

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Mettaton-EX

and I somehow ended up getting a reaction from the

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popularity meter exceeding 10k

. Like I seriously wasn't expecting it, and I certainly wasn't expecting those feels either. That was pretty damn moving... also,

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FUCK THAT COLOUR MAZE TILE THING

! Also,

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I LOVE MUFFET!

Saved before entering the next area... and I'm fretting over it just because it sounds like I

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have to kill Asgore

and I really don't want to... ><

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Saved before entering the next area... and I'm fretting over it just because it sounds like I

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have to kill Asgore

and I really don't want to... ><

Don't forget, there is always some way to show mercy.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Is

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Gaster

relevant to the story?

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It seems like the only character that didn't get a good ending.

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Asriel also didn't get his good ending.

Seriously though, if you finish the true true true final boss (AKA the credits sequence) without getting hit you unlock the dev room, inside you get the "option" to fight Toby's avatar (aka the annoying dog), which nets you a little bit of extra dialogue that hints at the fact that toby is working on a patch. What the hell that patch is, nobody knows.

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It will probably involve something about Gaster though, since things aren't resolved.

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

Pretty much finished with all three routes of the game at this point. Decided to watch the ending for the slaughter run because I've walled on the last boss, but I consider everything "done".

I find this game a profound experience, both emotionally and how it looks at the idea of interaction between a game's player and a game's world, and how the two react to one another. The 3+ years Toby put into writing and developing this really paid off.

[Phasm]

So do you only get to fight Flowie once? I ask this question because i replayed Undertale diferently but i didn't fight him.

I killed Undyne acidentaly because i didn't know how to save her, and intentionaly a bunch of monsters.

[Leon゠Helsing]

To resolve the fight against Undyne nonviolently, you just need to do your best Joseph Joestar impression (i.e. "RUN FOR YOUR LIIIVES!"). To actually show mercy to her so you can befriend her later, give her a cup of water from the dispenser when she collapses in Hotland.

[Tamashii Kanjou]

Don't forget, there is always some way to show mercy.

I seriously hope you're right... because I'm streaming it now. Wish me luck, everyone...

Oh, and yeah, Undyne's fight would have resulted in me flat out dropping my mercy run and hitting her had Aoshi not told me I had to

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run away

~ :V

[Leon゠Helsing]

Just remember that

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being a pacifist here doesn't mean that you never have to fight, you just have to avoid killing at all costs.

EDIT: lol spoiler tagging fail

[FinnKaenbyou]

So I just figured this out and wasn't sure if it's common knowledge. (audio spoilers?)

[The Greatest Dog]

Just remember that

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being a pacifist here doesn't mean that you never have to fight, you just have to avoid killing at all costs.

This. There are some pretty funny alternate spare methods by

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attacking as well, like weakening Icecap until you can steal their caps.

Absolutely don't be afraid to give other things a try. Although... searching for every possibility is kinda against the spirit of the game.

[Tamashii Kanjou]

... So I've ended my stream... and all I want to do right now is

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rip Flowey to f**king shreads!

I beat Asgore with 1HP remaining on my first go... no idea how I managed that, but hey, it happened. It did give me the option to do what I wanted in the end, but oh no!

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Flowey has to kill the poor bugger

and give us... a pretty amazing moment. I derped on the first go, simply because I had no idea what to expect, and got killed before even encountering

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the first soul.

But bossed it completely on the 2nd attempt; going from start to finish without dying. The fight was amazing, though; certainly had us on the edge of our seats~ XD

I was ready to

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kill Flowey

after it was over, but Puppy begged me to spare. I did, only because I had spared everyone up till this point. Also, the build up to the fight against Asgore was pretty emotional; and also explains why

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so many monsters detest humans.

Felt so sorry for them; one dying from illness, and the other

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being flat out murdered by them.

I wonder if that's why Flowey operates on a kill or be killed mind-set; like, maybe they heard about it happening or something...

Stopped after entering the

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True Lab

area. No idea what to expect, but I would assume a plate full of answers to the questions I have... though I don't know if I feel determined enough after the first few entries that I read on the way to the save point...  :ohdear:

[N-Forza]

I had a bad time and enjoyed it.

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Did not get dunked on though. Maybe that only shows up if you accept mercy from him, which I never did.

It's called a "Genocide run" for a reason, pal.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Stopped after entering the

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True Lab

area. No idea what to expect, but I would assume a plate full of answers to the questions I have... though I don't know if I feel determined enough after the first few entries that I read on the way to the save point...  :ohdear:

BEST PART OF THE GAME PLEASE ENJOY

[BT]

So I just figured this out and wasn't sure if it's common knowledge. (audio spoilers?)

Oooh, didn't notice that one. But the entire soundtrack is actually mostly the same few tracks rearranged. It's a common thing in some games and something I'd try for myself if I ever compose a game soundtrack. Some more obvious examples:

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The two Waterfall themes and the Undyne fight's theme, among other things, are all versions of the Ruins theme. Asgore's theme is mostly Toriel's theme followed by the Game Over theme. Snowdin Town's theme shows up in a lot of places too.

[Suikama]

secretly everything is just a variation of dogsong

[Tamashii Kanjou]

BEST PART OF THE GAME PLEASE ENJOY

Well... I'm starting it now!
I shall report back once I've... enjoyed it? Based on what people have said so far, I'm beginning to worry about this entire section~ XD

[Mr. Sacchi]

Random tidbit for people who don't know yet:

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If you finish the neutral run and kill flowey after the fight, then go fight Asgore again and spare him again, he commits suicide. Flowey still gets the souls, but the game skips after the fight immediately because Flowey basically just goes "well the souls are just gonna rebel again so w/e"

Well... I'm starting it now!
I shall report back once I've... enjoyed it? Based on what people have said so far, I'm beginning to worry about this entire section~ XD

Are there VoDs of your streams? My schedule is kind of wonky so I can't actually catch you playing it but I very much would enjoy watching someone play through it.

[Tamashii Kanjou]

There were going to be... but my microphone was too quiet, so it kind of ruined the recording because you can't hear me react to the stuff on screen... unless I was yelling/screaming...

The

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True Lab

was an experience and a half. Just... gosh, that was a lot of stuff to take in. The

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phone call

at the end didn't do anything to me, until I realised I couldn't go back anywhere. And Flowey... I can almost, ALMOST forgive you... I mean, finding out

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it was indeed Asriel

really hit me. I mean, how tortuous that must have been. And the entire end fight was a masterpiece; so pretty to look at, and pretty amazing. Also, I chose to

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stay with Toriel AND be the human ambassador

because I seriously enjoyed my time. I mean, seriously, this game has been a pretty fun roller-coaster from start to finish. Just... seeing

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the experiments, and how you had to deal with them in their own set ways

was really unsettling. I've never enjoyed

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experiments that end up with living beings merged into each other

so the True Lab did its job from the get go of unsettling me...

Also,

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Yaaaaaall... should know me by now... but if you do not... my name's A-sri-el... Ki-ri-sa-me!

Possible NSFW due to the lyrics of the song! Point still stands, though! <3

[Mr. Sacchi]

And Flowey... I can almost, ALMOST forgive you... I mean, finding out

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it was indeed Asriel

really hit me. I mean, how tortuous that must have been.

Worst part is? That's only half the story. The only half is only given to you in a genocide run, though. Which is one of my main gripes with the game.

[Ryuu]

Worst part is? That's only half the story. The only half is only given to you in a genocide run, though. Which is one of my main gripes with the game.

that's kind of the point, though

a big theme of the genocide run is

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"just because you CAN, doesn't mean you HAVE TO", which isn't just talking about the run itself, but the knowledge you can gain from the run. just because you CAN know it, doesn't mean you have to or even should. there's also just, you know, reading about it elsewhere or watching a youtube playthrough or something. flowey shittalks people who do this simply b/c he's flowey and wants more people to kill everyone.