Puzzle and Dragons Thread 23 - LET'S GET WET (and salty)

[Suikama]

this game is a fucking health hazard



what is this bullshit seriously

[trancehime]

They could go the literal interpretation of "mechanics-wise" and give her sub-Machine. :V

YamaP said on stream that Ult Verdandi is very likely going to have Machine type.

what is this bullshit seriously

Suddenly, the huge Karin desire really haunting you there.

[commandercool]

Once again, all of my I&I friends, gone. The one blue/white Sun Quan player in the fucking game, even though his Sun Quan was really crappy, gone.

Alas, blue healers.

  :qq:

[The Greatest Dog]

Once again, all of my I&I friends, gone. The one blue/white Sun Quan player in the fucking game, even though his Sun Quan was really crappy, gone.

Alas, blue healers.

  :qq:

I have a skillmaxed I&I, but she's not +'d at all...
Aya. How annoying.

[Jq1790]

Once again, all of my I&I friends, gone. The one blue/white Sun Quan player in the fucking game, even though his Sun Quan was really crappy, gone.

Alas, blue healers.

  :qq:

Decided I'd see if anyone can help.  Try these people if you haven't yet?

[commandercool]

Decided I'd see if anyone can help.  Try these people if you haven't yet?

Unfortunately typically a lot of the Sun Quan results on searches are either people who played him for like a minute when they were low level and have long since switched or changed him to his other ultimate but never updated their profile, or people who just throw every rare monster they have up on the site even if they never play them. What I need is someone who has him up all the time. And if I can find a hypermax (or even close) one I'll best friend them in a second.

I'll give the high-rank ones a try though, since they have to have consciously chosen that form for a reason other than "too new to know the difference and didn't have the materials for the other one". Odds are they probably don't have him up often if at all, but it can't hurt to try.

I wish you could send a message with your friend request, but unfortunately you can't. Would love to just blanket friend everyone who has him listed on PDX with a "Please accept if you regularly use blue/white Sun Quan" message.

[Jq1790]

Ah, true true.  Well, I do hope things work out for you in the end regarding that!  I -would- use B/L SQ if I had another one, but since I don't and he fits my own needs better as a sub(because as is known, blue healers are only for people who get a very narrow set of subs) than in his leader form. 

Maybe when 3k get Awoken forms he'll be good for both and you can use that someday?

[commandercool]

It's unfortunate that more people don't play the blue/white one, but I understand why they don't. I don't. He's got a lot going against him.

Picking him means you can't have the amazing sub one. He's only a great lead on a blue healer team, and having a blue healer team means you probably have a better leader for it. I think on paper he might be a better lead than I&I, although I haven't done the math on how 12.25x compares to 9 but with two more rows. And I&I's new haste changes things a little since it means they can have their enhance up much more often, even if it is smaller. And people don't really play I&I any more apparently, so being an arguably better version of an unpopular leader isn't worth much. And on top of that, leading with him means your sub pool is even smaller than usual because you're not going to want to have three of him on your team and also use him as a sub. He's great on in theory, but he has a loooooot of problems.

Although his extreme scarcity does remind me of the brief moment after he was previewed in which people claimed he made Metatron obsolete. That certainly didn't seem to be true, since I still have tooooons of Metatron friends and none of him. Oh well.

[O4rfish]

I have one of these if you want.



Only skill 3 even though they're one (two?) of my oldest goddesses.

[Thaws]

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150907_live_tgs.html

This screams AWOKEN NORSE MATERIAL.
inb4 I&I awoken announcement on Sept 19th. gungho plssss

[trancehime]

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150907_live_tgs.html

This screams AWOKEN NORSE MATERIAL.
inb4 I&I awoken announcement on Sept 19th. gungho plssss

Hey no. I&I is the only Norse I'm missing. Screw you

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/dungeon_series06_machine_dragon.html

Biweeklies after the Cat Dragons are Machine Dragons. They skill up the Cyberdragons.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Because we totes need more robodragons to add to the list. :p

It'll be nice to skill up the ones I've pulled so far.

[trancehime]

Because we totes need more robodragons to add to the list. :p

It'll be nice to skill up the ones I've pulled so far.

Depending on their stats they could be decent farmable alternatives to the Cyberdragons.

[Dorakyura]

this game is a fucking health hazard



what is this bullshit seriously

It may be time to edit your team 

[trancehime]

It may be time to edit your team 

Suikama would be fine if he had Karin instead of DKali.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Technically no, he wouldn't be. He'd have to swap out one of the Andromedas or Reine and keep DKali, since he wouldn't be able to activate Isis' LS with Isis and Karin alone. Gotta have three colors!

[trancehime]

Technically no, he wouldn't be. He'd have to swap out one of the Andromedas or Reine and keep DKali, since he wouldn't be able to activate Isis' LS with Isis and Karin alone. Gotta have three colors!

I do not understand.

If he uses B/D Karin, he would have B/G, B/D, and rest can be B/B. Which is 3 colors, is it not?

I'm not talking about Awoken Karin, who cannot even be made in NA right now until Sha Wujing is officially released, and B/G Karin is a garbage sub compared to B/D.

[hyorinryu]

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150907_live_tgs.html

This screams AWOKEN NORSE MATERIAL.
inb4 I&I awoken announcement on Sept 19th. gungho plssss

Awoken I&I
Physical/Attacker

You know you want it Thaws :V :V

Guesses on evolution material?
Freyr
idk
Two Norse people and

I&I
Aegir/Valk or Aegir/Sieg or valk/Hrungnir(when was the last time we him )

Freyja
Valk/Jord

Thor
Valk/Jord or Jord/Seigfried or Jord/Egir(think this one is most likely) Hrungir might show up too

Loki
idk
Two Norse stuff and Helheim


Maybe throw in a corresponding ulted, Legendary Dragon. Particularly for Loki.
I think we need more Norse tbh, especially if they don't play on using Valkyrie or Seigfried. I don't see anything good for Loki. or  Especially if he wants to keep that devil typing.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Attacker Fenrir descended, physical Ullr descended, or devil Hel descended.  What I want the most are Battle Freyja, and healer I&I.  Thoughts?

[commandercool]

Oh man, I'd be so excited for actually playable Loki.

Now watch Gungho give them the same unreasonably high number of skillups needed on their new skills.

[hyorinryu]

Oh man, I'd be so excited for actually playable Loki.

Now watch Gungho give them the same unreasonably high number of skillups needed on their new skills.

I don't think we need to worry about that. The reason Norse have so many is because of all the buffs they got to their cooldown. Idk why they didn't decrease the max cooldown too though.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I do not understand.

If he uses B/D Karin, he would have B/G, B/D, and rest can be B/B. Which is 3 colors, is it not?

I'm not talking about Awoken Karin, who cannot even be made in NA right now until Sha Wujing is officially released, and B/G Karin is a garbage sub compared to B/D.

I'm aware. I'm saying B/D Karin wouldn't have worked at all because she'd be just as fucked by the God bind as Andromeda and Reine are, leaving Suikama even worse off than DKali would have.

I'm also aware we don't have Awoken Karin yet-- but we'll have her soon since Sha Wujing is in our data now. Besides, ideally, why would you want to run anything otherwise, since she's got an extra row and better awakes overall, better stats (a little HP loss is made up for in that huge atk boost), a haste in her active, and in this case, complete immunity to the God bind Stratios throws at you. If you replace DKali, then yeah, you'd not have the colors you need since you'd only have B/G available. Drop an Andro or Reine though and you still have four colors to work with, but Karin would not be bound and would be able to give some extra maintype punch to finish Stratios off.

But none of that would work if Karin gets just as easily bound! :V

[Mr. Sacchi]

Tuesday has come around as I finally have Awoken Lakshmi...

...Now I just need another 2 Bubpys, a way to skillup my two Gabriels, my future Awoken Karin and my Berry Dragon. How hard can that be?

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Bubpys: Considering that it's not at all unlikely that we'll be seeing Challenge Descended 4 in the future, shouldn't be too hard. Otherwise, alts all the way and pray for victory.
Gabriels: Your best chance was PAD Island (I didn't manage to skill mine up through it either, though, because skillups hate me), but it's totally doable through Mystic Dragon coin dungeons (I did Mikey in a day's time using the same method (EDIT: Though I confess I did fry a few stones to do it since I was running out of time in the rotation.)).
Karin: Bubpys will probably be less stressful than jewels. I'm still debating using the Flampys I was saving for Scarlet on Leilan and just running a sweet Rowzaku team instead of investing so much effort into making the ultimate Scarlet team. But the temptation is strong because said Scarlet team can pretty much wreck everything ever...
Berry Dragon: Blue Shieldras on Diagoldos Descended. Probably not too bad if you can run it reliably.

So all in all, bubpys aside, you shouldn't have too much trouble. I was kind of hoping that Diagoldos would be in CD4 so you could farm it for a few days straight (while getting said bubpy) but that doesn't seem to be the case sadly.

[Thaws]

Awoken I&I
Physical/Attacker

You know you want it Thaws :V :V

Hyo pls
Look at that pic! Dolphins= luka = healer sticker girls= healer->i&i will be healer
My logic is flawless

Attacker won't be too bad, my Reines are attacker now and I've got B/D Hermes.
Physical is also good I've got swimsuit Urd, Blonia.and of course baggi
The only sad thing would be not being able to put my Andros to use.

Then again there's no guarantee they're even staying as type leads as their original uevo weren't type specific anyways.

The way I see it they pretty much have the same degree of freedom regarding how their ls with turn out as Indian 1.0s unlike Egypt where everyone had an deep impression of what each of them should be (e.g. Try making Bastet non combo and watch Twitter explode)

Anyways can't say I'm not excited because I&I was my second hyper character, and I've been wanting to invest in my blue team with pluses but I can't justify it due to the lack of viable blue leads in my box (I can make a perfect lakshmi team except I don't have lakshmi;; )

[Chaore]

But none of that would work if Karin gets just as easily bound! :V

he'd probably not be in that position at all with a better board change and more rows though and might've ko'd

which is the point trance was (rightly) making

[Jq1790]

Ok, time to finish this!



Wh-what?  No.  No no no no NO.

YOU ARE NOT TAKING THIS AWAY FROM ME!



And STAY down!



Weekday Dungeons...ALL-CLEAR!

[Edible]

:toot:

[MatsuriSakuragi]

he'd probably not be in that position at all with a better board change and more rows though and might've ko'd

which is the point trance was (rightly) making

Yeah, I understood that, and it does make sense, don't get me wrong.

I'm just a little leery of that because those board changes are still kinda touchy when you have to match 6-- it took me three tries to get a Skuld combo just right (granted, I was using Parvati so I did have to nail the 5-heart and wood TPAs just right).  It happens, you know? Mess it up and you'll either end up healing him or not hurting him enough and you get smacked with the god bind and end up in the same stuck place as he did before.

I was speaking from the perspective of "what could have been" in that particular situation in the picture, in which Stratios just had a sliver of health left. Had he not even had DKali to work with, he'd not be able to do damage at all due to lack of colors. Having A.Karin (and yes, I understand we don't have her yet) in one of the Andros/Reine's spot would have likely given that last bit of punch to finish him.

All I'm really saying is that board changes aren't always reliable on this dude since my situation was uh, not good. (It took me over 30 turns to get it right.)

[Chaore]

All I'm really saying is that board changes aren't always reliable on this dude since my situation was uh, not good. (It took me over 30 turns to get it right.)

That's fair.

[OverlordChirei]

Finally got all that nasty 5 combo bullshit out of my system.