Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game?? (Read 162876 times)

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #330 on:** July 19, 2015, 07:04:14 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 19, 2015, 02:57:03 AM

[...]the idea of husbando being a poor man's anything is upsetting to me.[...]

Now you know why I was so excited for the new Tyrannos ult and Awoken Horus.

Fortunately, one of them exceeded my wildest expectations, unfortunately the other one... didn't.

~~starter dragons OP where~~

Espadas · « **Reply #331 on:** July 19, 2015, 07:50:09 AM »

I'm beginning to get really annoyed at those &/%$ cost-restricted dungeons..... i've got boatloads of good leaders for them, but the subs are the real pain in the ass.

And speaking of this..... Gungho, just because Echidna is getting somewhat obsolete doesn't mean you should forget about Scarlet Snake Princess!

trancehime · « **Reply #332 on:** July 19, 2015, 08:57:02 AM »

Quote from: Espadas on July 19, 2015, 07:50:09 AM

I'm beginning to get really annoyed at those &/%$ cost-restricted dungeons..... i've got boatloads of good leaders for them, but the subs are the real pain in the ass.

Legend format dungeons are far worse

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #333 on:** July 19, 2015, 10:49:44 AM »

Quote from: Espadas on July 19, 2015, 07:50:09 AM

And speaking of this..... Gungho, just because Echidna is getting somewhat obsolete doesn't mean you should forget about Healer Girls!

Fixed that for you

trancehime · « **Reply #334 on:** July 19, 2015, 02:57:04 PM »

So I gave him a bit of a whirl, I guess... Uh, I'm not sure what to say? I could probably snap a lot of shit in half if I had Ares I guess?

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #335 on:** July 19, 2015, 07:14:59 PM »

I'm a celebrity?

Meanwhile, I failed to make a basic combo with Sakuya again and died to Cauchemar.

Not really sure how to handle this with Light or Dark because absorbs are everywhere. Whelp.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #336 on:** July 19, 2015, 07:58:07 PM »

Saved up 200 stamina for ocean dragon knight to get my last Sun Quan skillup.

Not a single goddamn one dropped.

If I were a weaker person this would be my breaking point for buying stones and spamming it until it was finally over.

But I resist. There's 12 more days for this rotation. I can do this, I know I can.

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #337 on:** July 19, 2015, 08:06:36 PM »

This has been my struggle with Red Sprite.

240 stamina down the drain for Master runs; no drops.

Ugggghhhhh I've been spending literally all of my stamina over the last three days over this and I only have 13 sprites.

commandercool · « **Reply #338 on:** July 19, 2015, 09:40:52 PM »

Would somebody mind taking a look at my box (which is relatively but not completely up to date) and suggesting a monster that I can use to team challenge relatively tough (Legendary Seaway and harder) content? Or is that more of a case-by-case thing?

Suikama · « **Reply #339 on:** July 19, 2015, 10:56:53 PM »

you can technically just awoken ra everything lol

commandercool · « **Reply #340 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:16:18 AM »

With x10? Yeah I guess. Maybe I'm just not good enough at Ra for that or I don't have the right friends to sub in, I gave that a try and it didn't seem that great. What team are you picturing for that? Just Ra/WKali/Wkali/Wkali/BKali/Sun Quan?

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #341 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:21:34 AM »

Honestly, as far as I know, change that Sun Quan for Awoken Isis and you literally have the ideal Awoken Ra team.

commandercool · « **Reply #342 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:44:31 AM »

That's just the Ra team I use for day to day stuff. Is Isis really important for getting challenge clears on non-technical content? I would've figured the damage boost would be much more important for trying to beat down seven million health with x10 attack than bind clear for binds that don't exist. Maybe Isis would be better for the higher-level technicals though, and I imagine she's going to be infinitely easier to come by as a hypermax lead, but I feel like I would miss the extra damage a lot.

As for being an optimal Ra team outsides of challenges that varies based on the dungeon obviously, but again I would rather have Sun Quan most of the time. It helps that mine is hypermax and I don't own an Isis, but most of the time I can just vaporize an enemy that threatens me with binds using Sun Quan's active and still have some attack bonus left over for the next enemy. Pre-emptive binds are a different story, but the insurance of being absolutely certain that anything I touch will die no matter how much health it has and that it can't hit me back even if it doesn't is great, whereas bind recovery is a little situational on a team that has that much power to just kill troublesome floors outright if necessary.

I wish I had Isis for the rare-but-threatening pre-emptive wood or water binds and for the extra lock resist to give me 100% immunity (although that stops mattering when ultimate black Kali comes out) but I don't think I would use her every day. The low cooldown on a her skill to active Ra's damage enhance in a pinch is probably super helpful too, but I would rather have my overkill-tier damage enhance for safety. Maybe I'll change my mind once I get more comfortable playing Ra.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #343 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:51:31 AM »

Oh I didn't notice that you meant Sun Quan as a sub leader, I meant use Awoken Isis as a sub cause she covers blue/green, lkali, dkali and awoken ra cover the other colors so whatever, that's what I meant.

Plus, a x100 multiplier with TPAs is more than enough for just about every content out there save for maybe Ultimate Arena, you seriously don't need enhancers.

commandercool · « **Reply #344 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:06:34 AM »

The enhance comes up when I have a board that can't do white TPAs, or can't do them easily. It's basically either a delay, which is useful, or a auto-TPA activation since it gives a similar boost to the same monsters (and Sun Quan himself, but he hits much less hard because he's not boosted by Ra's enhance and I don't tend to go out of my way to make blue TPAs). It's versatile. Isis is versatile too (and has better stats) but I can't imagine her skill's three levels of utility (healing, bind recovery, short-cooldown blank skill) coming up as often as Sun Quan's (defensive delay, prong replacer, delay as pseudo-haste).

But yeah, I'm talking specifically about challenge dungeons mostly. And she's of slightly more limited utility there, and I feel much more like I need damage help.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #345 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:40:12 AM »

Medjedra sucks, they said.

He's not worth a spot on any team, they said.

Just roll for Kushi, they said.

WELL FUCK ALL OF THEM

TAKE MY HAND, AND LET'S GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD

commandercool · « **Reply #346 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:47:39 AM »

Quote from: OverlordChirei on July 20, 2015, 01:40:12 AM

TAKE MY HAND, AND LET'S GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD[/i]

Don't make fun of Medjed and his tragic lack of hands. :V

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #347 on:** July 20, 2015, 01:49:25 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 01:47:39 AM

Don't make fun of Medjed and his tragic lack of hands. :V

If you get to keep using Magic terminology when this is not Magic, Chirei gets to make fun of Medjedra for not having hands. :V

Also Awoken Isis doesn't do HP healing, she's a shield, FYI.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #348 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:02:32 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 01:47:39 AM

Don't make fun of Medjed and his tragic lack of hands. :V

I actually wasn't making fun of him, though no one says you need to grab someone else's hand with one of yours - it's just the customary method us mortals are used to.

commandercool · « **Reply #349 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:09:39 AM »

Quote from: Wardjeity of the Night, Tsukuyomi on July 20, 2015, 01:49:25 AM

If you get to keep using Magic terminology when this is not Magic, Chirei gets to make fun of Medjedra for not having hands. :V

Look, I tried to stop, but it's a reflex so I stopped trying. Besides, "dark" as a type sounds slightly dorkier than I can handle. Sorry if it bothers you/others.

Quote from: Wardjeity of the Night, Tsukuyomi on July 20, 2015, 01:49:25 AM

Also Awoken Isis doesn't do HP healing, she's a shield, FYI.

Oh shit you're right. Yeah, that does make a difference. The number of times that comes up is not enormous, but it's much more than the heal I should have known better than to think it was. Again that's a little bit of a situational thing, but it's a significant situation that I have no better way around.

Quote from: OverlordChirei on July 20, 2015, 02:02:32 AM

I actually wasn't making fun of him, though no one says you need to grab someone else's hand with one of yours - it's just the customary method us mortals are used to.

Maybe he has some kind of bizarre hands under his sheet or something.

trancehime · « **Reply #350 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:17:16 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 02:09:39 AM

Look, I tried to stop, but it's a reflex so I stopped trying. Besides, "dark" as a type sounds slightly dorkier than I can handle. Sorry if it bothers you/others.

It just gets real confusing sometimes.

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #351 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:22:51 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 02:09:39 AM

Look, I tried to stop, but it's a reflex so I stopped trying. Besides, "dark" as a type sounds slightly dorkier than I can handle. Sorry if it bothers you/others.

Basically what Trance said, yeah. Seeing "white Kali" just makes me think "I am fairly certain she's from India actually?"

Unrelated, it sure is nice when you accidentally take the wrong team into a dungeon and are able to clear anyway:

trancehime · « **Reply #352 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:33:52 AM »

Quote from: Wardjeity of the Night, Tsukuyomi on July 20, 2015, 02:22:51 AM

Basically what Trance said, yeah. Seeing "white Kali" just makes me think "I am fairly certain she's from India actually?"

It's easier when you consider that R/B/G/D/L are attributes and not types.

Types would be Balanced, Attacker, etc.

Suikama · « **Reply #353 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:37:22 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 12:44:31 AM

That's just the Ra team I use for day to day stuff. Is Isis really important for getting challenge clears on non-technical content? I would've figured the damage boost would be much more important for trying to beat down seven million health with x10 attack than bind clear for binds that don't exist. Maybe Isis would be better for the higher-level technicals though, and I imagine she's going to be infinitely easier to come by as a hypermax lead, but I feel like I would miss the extra damage a lot.

As for being an optimal Ra team outsides of challenges that varies based on the dungeon obviously, but again I would rather have Sun Quan most of the time. It helps that mine is hypermax and I don't own an Isis, but most of the time I can just vaporize an enemy that threatens me with binds using Sun Quan's active and still have some attack bonus left over for the next enemy. Pre-emptive binds are a different story, but the insurance of being absolutely certain that anything I touch will die no matter how much health it has and that it can't hit me back even if it doesn't is great, whereas bind recovery is a little situational on a team that has that much power to just kill troublesome floors outright if necessary.

I wish I had Isis for the rare-but-threatening pre-emptive wood or water binds and for the extra lock resist to give me 100% immunity (although that stops mattering when ultimate black Kali comes out) but I don't think I would use her every day. The low cooldown on a her skill to active Ra's damage enhance in a pinch is probably super helpful too, but I would rather have my overkill-tier damage enhance for safety. Maybe I'll change my mind once I get more comfortable playing Ra.

Isis active lets you have an active up every turn with Ra so yeah potentially 100% 100x is way more useful than a single large burst which you probably wont even need or reach because of it's long cooldown.

Also with Isis you have 100% bind immunity for each color so you can't ever be screwed over by binds whereas if SQ gets binded you can't do shit.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #354 on:** July 20, 2015, 02:59:53 AM »

I have Ceres for a hard counter against binds! She's not skillmax or anything (I should really take care of that, but Meimei is getting my woodpys for now), but she can surely save me when using A. Ra and Kali/Sun Quan/DIza get bound.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #355 on:** July 20, 2015, 03:07:09 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 02:09:39 AM

Maybe he has some kind of bizarre hands under his sheet or something.

You don't wanna look under the sheet. I did once, and it turns out his entire body is made of lasers. I racked up a pretty large hospital bill after that.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #356 on:** July 20, 2015, 04:04:12 AM »

Perseverance always wins.

Last 100 stamina before 2.5x ended, got two skillups. Got me the last one. Glad I didn't give in to temptation.

commandercool · « **Reply #357 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:52:16 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on July 20, 2015, 02:37:22 AM

Isis active lets you have an active up every turn with Ra so yeah potentially 100% 100x is way more useful than a single large burst which you probably wont even need or reach because of it's long cooldown.

Also with Isis you have 100% bind immunity for each color so you can't ever be screwed over by binds whereas if SQ gets binded you can't do shit.

Do keep in mind that when I talk about my Ra team, I use Ra/Kali for leads so my modifier before prongs is 60x, not 100x. That is considerably less damage, so sometimes an extra damage enhance can make a difference. Not often, granted, but 60x doesn't seem to be enough to cleanly one-shot absoluty everything all the time.

The horrifying implications of this conversation seem to be that I'm now obligated to skillmax a third Kali so I can swap her into a sub slot and run an Isis friend for dungeons with notable (non-daaaark) pre-emptive binds and/or huge pre-emptive attacks. And that means I need more Angelits. And I don't think I'm ready to do that now, if ever.

Edit: Of course, part of the reason I run my team at 60x like I do is because it's the best way to fill out the colors with the things I have without losing prongs and board changes, so obviously that's not set in stone once Isis comes out and I can use her as a friend lead. Still not sure I'm willing to give up 297 +eggs and a delay, but it's not like the friend Kali has to be there for any reason.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #358 on:** July 20, 2015, 06:24:25 PM »

...Huh, so the mugs and invade bowls are in the PEM now? Neat!

Edible · « **Reply #359 on:** July 20, 2015, 08:07:53 PM »

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- Beginning Tuesday, 7/21, the Daily Dungeons will feature permanent 2x Drop (Tuesday-Friday) and 2x Coin (Weekend) rates, regardless of whether or not an event is in effect
- Starting Friday, 7/24, the standard Metal/Jewel Dragon dungeons will be combined with their Super Metal/Jewel Dragon counterparts into one Limited Time Dungeon with two separate floors
- King Dragons will appear in the standard Metal/Jewel Dragon dungeons at at rates equivalent to the older dungeons' 2x bonus
- These combined dungeons will have new names (?Metal Dragon Infestation!?, etc.), and 1 Magic Stone will be awarded the first time they are completed
- Starting 7/24, Limited Time Dungeons will also appear more frequently each day

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Author Topic: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game?? (Read 162876 times)

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