Author Topic: Filler Mafia - Day 5 (Read 32893 times)

Bardiche · « **Reply #330 on:** June 28, 2015, 10:46:48 AM »

I remain of a mind that O4rfish is still scummy for the same reasons yesterday. Examining CF7 gives bitter little in the way of interactions, but I'll need to take some time to really sit down and examine everything everyone's done with regards to the CF7 lynch. I have some mild misgivings about the NK spec.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #331 on:** June 28, 2015, 03:50:03 PM »

43 Dormio (3): Serela, Darkninjaabc, Bike-huni Zakeri CF7 (2): Dormio, Sky_Paladin ActionDan (1): Shadoweh Murrin (1): CF7 Not Voting (2): ActionDan, Murrin	70: CF7 (3): Dormio, Sky_Paladin Serela Serela (2): CF7, Bike-huni Zakeri ActionDan (1): Shadoweh Sky_Paladin (1): Darkninjaabc Bike-huni Zakeri (1): Murrin Not Voting (1): ActionDan	124 Day One End: Bike-huni Zakeri (3): Murrin, Serela, CF7 CF7 (2): Dormio, Sky_Paladin Serela (1): Bike-huni Zakeri ActionDan (1): Shadoweh Sky_Paladin (1): Darkninjaabc Not Voting (1): ActionDan
230: CF7 (3): Shadoweh, Bike-huni Zakeri, Serela Sky_Paladin (1): Darkninjaabc	246 End of Day 2: CF7 (4): Shadoweh, Bike-huni Zakeri, Serela, Oarfish Oarfish (2): Sky_Paladin, Darkninjaabc
281: CF7 (2): Bike-huni Zakeri, O4rfish Serela (1): Raitaki O4rfish (1): Bardiche Not Voting (3): 322 End of Day 3: Sky_Paladin, CF7, Serela	CF7 (4): Bike-huni Zakeri, O4rfish, Raitaki, Bardiche O4rfish (1): Bardiche Bike-huni Zakeri (1): CF7 Not Voting (2): Sky_Paladin, Serela

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #332 on:** June 28, 2015, 03:56:57 PM »

Not a whole lot of reading done so far yet, but I don't think Serela and Bard are scum together.

Serela was always on the biggest wagon so I'm probably going to look deeper into the reasoning for his switches and votes.
Oarfish's slot is still very suspicious, but I feel like it's only the slot and not him himself that's acting suspect.

No specific comment on the new guys, though.

Serela · « **Reply #333 on:** June 28, 2015, 04:06:02 PM »

"always on the biggest wagon" well I mean, we WERE trying to get cf7 lynched for like there days without it actually succeeding

and him just kind of giving up and waiting to die the entire time reaaaally gave 0 reason to consider him actually being town and lynching someone else

Serela · « **Reply #334 on:** June 28, 2015, 04:06:25 PM »

three* IT'S REALLY SIMILAR TO THERE OKAY

O4rfish · « **Reply #335 on:** June 28, 2015, 11:08:37 PM »

I think it's pretty obvious why Skypal was murdered. He was obvtown, and he was the only person who claimed I was town when I am next on the chopping block.

It's less obvious to me why Dormio and Shadoweh were murdered.

When's the last time we had LYLO with 2 scum? Should we examine the most bland person, as in the game with Refa?

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #336 on:** June 29, 2015, 12:43:52 AM »

Quote from: Selery on June 28, 2015, 04:06:02 PM

"always on the biggest wagon" well I mean, we WERE trying to get cf7 lynched for like there days without it actually succeeding

and him just kind of giving up and waiting to die the entire time reaaaally gave 0 reason to consider him actually being town and lynching someone else

That's a good point as far as day 2 and 3 are concerned, but I was mostly looking at the three day one votecounts when I said that.

Serela · « **Reply #337 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:23:36 AM »

One was the Dormio rvs wagon, of which I was even the first vote so I couldn't have been opportunistically taking advantage. The second was CF7, because cf7, and you again, both of which I provided okay cases for d1 on and then followed up on satisfactorily (afaik) for the rest of the game as you two continued to not die. So, I guess I'm on the big wagons, yeah, but I fail to see how my involvement isn't anything but what should be expected!

O4rfish · « **Reply #338 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:02:23 AM »

Still need Bard to roleclaim.

O4rfish · « **Reply #339 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:23:47 AM »

Zak, why did you choose to target Shadoweh?

Raitaki · « **Reply #340 on:** June 29, 2015, 03:23:14 PM »

Came up with nothing conclusive. Not sure that I still want Oarfish lynched, with the choice of NK and what Serela brought up about his reaction earlier. For now I guess I'll ask Zak to answer why he did this:

Quote

+ Zakeri barely posts enough for me to decide a read on beyond the usual "he didn't do much!" Though there's a bit in D1 where he plopped his vote onto Serela just to ask her to explain why CF7's reasoning was bad, but then later finding two other suspects one of whom he "heavily" suspected, but voting neither of them. Makes me think his Serela vote was mainly made to get off the RVS Dormio vote, and that he might have even been hoping to stagnate the lynch for two days in a row.

Bard, what do you think of Serela and Zak?

O4rfish · « **Reply #341 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:33:45 PM »

One quick note Serela: it wasn't the nk that negated my case against Bard, it was the flip from lynch. Most of us assumed CF7 was scum. Since CF7 was not scum, DNA's actions only look a little weird but not scummy.

Serela · « **Reply #342 on:** June 29, 2015, 04:46:50 PM »

o

well I still don't super think you're scum anymore, that had mostly just been me trying to find some way to have a reason to justify it

Raitaki · « **Reply #343 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:14:52 PM »

Less than 24 hours until lynch. Unless I'm mistaken, about 20 hours, actually.

I think I'm willing to go...Zak > Oarfish > Serela = Bard..?

Serela · « **Reply #344 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:25:51 PM »

:T

##Vote Zakeri

You'd really have to make a slamdunk case for me to possibly even consider anyone else, and even then I'd be amazed if Zakeri isn't the only person I'd condone lynching the next day. tl;dr, let's just kill him already

Serela · « **Reply #345 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:27:20 PM »

given this game's previous track record and continued low presence, under 24 hours to lynch is time to really need to start voting -anyway-, so

Raitaki · « **Reply #346 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:30:05 PM »

ohgod it begins

i kiiind of want you to unvote for now and see if there's a third person who would like to vote Zak and have some sort of semi-telegraphed reason to do so

Raitaki · « **Reply #347 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:31:43 PM »

Because once again scumteam+1 quickhammer thing

Since you took the initiative and I want to vote Zak too then he's probably scum unless you're a buddy bussing him, but just want to make sure

Serela · « **Reply #348 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:36:22 PM »

if we're really under 24 hours to lynch already, well.

Past that, no one else is even -remotely- appealing as a lynch, and it's been over 2 days and no one's really proposed anything else. Bard does still think o4rfish is scummy, but I remain unwilling to consider lynching him over Zakeri with current cases. Activity is low as usual, making waiting for more talk even more unappealing. z.z

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #349 on:** June 29, 2015, 11:03:24 PM »

Well, Crud, this isn't good. Unless Serela really is scum.

And yes, by my count, day should be ending at 1:45 p.m. EST tomorrow, which is 19 hours.

I didn't have any special reason for targeting Shadoweh, I just felt like giving her more presents. I knew from my stellar (lack of) gameplay on day one that I wouldn't be NKed

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #350 on:** June 29, 2015, 11:12:22 PM »

Worried that scumteam is Oarfish and Bard, and they just haven't gotten the news/aren't posting until the other one is online.

Honestly, I should be panicking way more than I am but I'm kind of ready for this to be over. At least somebody got to win this game.

Serela · « **Reply #351 on:** June 29, 2015, 11:19:48 PM »

I could kinda see Bard being scum by virtue of "well he hasn't done anything that explicitly implies him to be town to me" but I'd much sooner think Zak is scum than Bard's analysis and efforts.

O4rfish · « **Reply #352 on:** June 29, 2015, 11:35:24 PM »

I wouldn't have a problem voting Zak except that I don't have any idea who his partner would be. Given we're at LYLO, we should give some thought to scumteams rather than isolated scum, right?

Quote from: Selery on June 29, 2015, 11:19:48 PM

Bard's analysis and efforts.

You might want to ISO Bard. He's made 1 case and that's it.

Zak: if you had no reason to target her, why not save your ability until you had a reason?

Serela · « **Reply #353 on:** June 29, 2015, 11:48:58 PM »

Quote from: O4rfish on June 29, 2015, 11:35:24 PM

I wouldn't have a problem voting Zak except that I don't have any idea who his partner would be. Given we're at LYLO, we should give some thought to scumteams rather than isolated scum, right?

I don't think the game has enough content to actually link people together with any significant degree to matter without flips. Even for lylo. :T If I discount Zak as being scum I don't have any idea who else is even scummy, which is a much more pressing issue than not being sure who Zak's partner would be.

Like, yeah, at this point partnerspec would be okay, but I'm not seeing any and deadline is kinda close with a depressing amount of activity.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #354 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:05:13 AM »

Yeah, I've been reading through the thread and I'm just making myself dizzy.

I'm not going to be doing anything useful without putting a vote down.
##Vote: Serela

SB · « **Reply #355 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:09:19 AM »

Bike-huni Zakeri (1): Serela
Serela (1): Bike-huni Zakeri

17 hours and 27 minutes remain.

O4rfish · « **Reply #356 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:13:11 AM »

Crossvote. I can't remember if this is good or not.
I'm doing some rereading on the faint hope that I'll get some insight.
Not going to vote before Bard comes back.

O4rfish · « **Reply #357 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:52:24 AM »

I feel like Serela hasn't been Serela for a long time.

Partnerships:
Zak/Serela doesn't make any sense unless you assume bussing right from the start, which they probably wouldn't do in a 2-scum game.

Zak/Murrin/Raitaki: Zak didn't mention Murren d1; called him out ld1/ed2 but reversed himself ld2; has hardly mentioned Rai.
Murrin voted Zak pretty strongly on d1, which for a new player almost certainly means they're not a partnership, unless their partner likes to gamble like ActionDan.

Zak/DNA/Bard: Zak called DNA town on d2, but DNA didn't return the favor - countering one of his points on d1, calling him untrustworthy on d2.
On d3 Zak didn't buy into my case on Bard, but Bard called out Zak for being forgettable.
No crossvotes. Could be a team I guess, but I'm not feeling it.

Serela · « **Reply #358 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:58:25 AM »

A lot of my eccentric traits don't have much of a chance to come out in a game this low-activity!

O4rfish · « **Reply #359 on:** June 30, 2015, 01:26:07 AM »

Selera/Murrin/Raitaki:
Murrin barely mentioned Serela. The only mention Serela makes is to call Murrin "not strange"
Raitaki comes in d3 with a case on Serela, but after that they were buddy-buddy with Rai never saying why he dropped his case. Except for possibly when he discounted a Serela/CF7 team, but that should have been reexamined when CF7 flipped Town ...

Selera/DNA/Bard: Serela never mentioned DNA, and DNA said Serela made a good point against CF7.

Quote from: Selery on June 24, 2015, 12:12:18 PM

(Anyway I feel pretty great about Bard so far, if he was actually scum he'd deserve the win more than town would anyway) (not that I think he is or I'd vote him, etcetc whatever)

Quote from: Selery on June 29, 2015, 11:19:48 PM

I could kinda see Bard being scum by virtue of "well he hasn't done anything that explicitly implies him to be town to me"

Uh, non sequitor. Kind of feeds into S/M/R spec ...

Murrin/Raitaki/DNA/Bard:
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