Author Topic: Filler Mafia - Day 5 (Read 32900 times)

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #240 on:** June 21, 2015, 09:05:47 AM »

Nope.

Chain of events:

Oarfish claims he had a one shot ability that was mod-fired during day 1.
CF7 claims that he targeted Serela with the ability from Oarfish.

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At the same time i got mysterious one shot heal, which i used on Serela. And i am thinking it's that thing that O4rfish mentioned.

No mention that SB was roleblocked, or any indication that the ability failed.
CF7 then reiterates in response to my accusation that he did not target Serela:

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I stand by my claim.

No mention of roleblock. This would have been the perfect time to mention "Well actually, I tried to do xyz, but I was roleblocked - maybe that explains the crazy things you are saying, Sky?"
Oarfish:

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Skypal: ask SB if paint can get through roleblocks.

<-- first mention of roleblock
Same post - hypothetical scenario posted by Oarfish:

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Skypal paints Zak. Zak redirects Skypal to Shadoweh*. Shadoweh roleblocks CF7. CF7 does not reach Serela.

Not only did Oarfish know CF7 was roleblocked, but he also knew seemingly in advance that Shadoweh was the one to do it, not Zak (or anybody else in the game).

After this he tried to cover his blunder with a whole bunch of random, implausible scenarios.
Here are some. Here are some more.

He actually hung a lampshade on his earlier psychic forecast that Shadoweh had roleblocked Shadoweh in 194:

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"Skypal: ask SB if paint can get through roleblocks. " <-- obvious question since trying to solve roleshens puzzle, and not dubious.

It is dubious, since that's exactly what happened, and Oarfish knows too much.

Ergo, Oarfish is in a private conversation with either Shadoweh or CF7, because he knew about the night action before it was made public, and his role claim does not allow this.

Whether or not it's a scum topic or a neighbour topic I don't know, but I'll start with ##vote Oarfish and ask Oarfish to explain himself again.

DNAbc · « **Reply #241 on:** June 21, 2015, 01:47:01 PM »

I can't keep up with the game, I have to sub out

##Vote: Oarfish at the moment as a placeholder in case of deadlines

O4rfish · « **Reply #242 on:** June 21, 2015, 05:17:43 PM »

Let me ask you this Skypal. What would happen if I die and flip Town Day 1 Inventor Vannilaizer?

O4rfish · « **Reply #243 on:** June 21, 2015, 05:30:41 PM »

CF7 backs me up on having been given a thing. But CF7 presumably didn't know who roleblocked him, and had even "forgotten" that he was roleblocked in the first place.

Shadoweh knew who she roleblocked. But if Shadoweh roleblocked CF7, and I gave an item to CF7, then who neighborized me and Shadoweh?

Or, if you think Shadoweh and I are scum, who killed Dormio? If you think I did ... I guess I have no proof that I didn't do it, but I didn't do it. I'm not scum.

Maybe I'm just good at solving roleshens.

O4rfish · « **Reply #244 on:** June 21, 2015, 05:44:27 PM »

If you are accusing me of being scum, you should at least point to an instance of me acting scummily. To do otherwise would be you acting scummily, which would imply this whole thing is some kind of trap you set for this specific purpose.

O4rfish · « **Reply #245 on:** June 21, 2015, 07:31:43 PM »

Let's examine Skypal's accusations this game:
Mutton was in the game where I caught a scum who was arguing against RVS. So, he's going to try the same tactic.
CF7 sheeped me, which is weird so I'm going to sheep Dormio for CF7=scum.
CF7 didn't have my secret information (thanks DNA) which wasn't secret since I wrote it into my vote post, therefore CF7 is suspicious.
CF7 is acting scummily
CF7 is 100% lying, based on my incorrect information. Oops, sorry!
Oarfish is lying too, I think.
Oarfish isn't lying, but his role is bullshit.
Oarfish asked about roleblockers, which is suspicious.
Oarfish figured everything out, which is impossible unless he knows something I don't.

So, you have one valid accusation out of eight.
Two hours left. I'm just gonna put my vote back where it was.
#vote: CF7

SB · « **Reply #246 on:** June 21, 2015, 07:44:46 PM »

CF7 (4): Shadoweh, Bike-huni Zakeri, Serela, Oarfish (L-1!)
Oarfish (2): Sky_Paladin, Darkninjaabc

Not Voting (1): Murrin

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. There is 1 hour and 46 minutes left in the day.

I'll probably sub out Murrin overnight. If one of the subs could drop me a pm, I'd appreciate it.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #247 on:** June 21, 2015, 08:09:55 PM »

I'm going to be taking a nap soon so I'll probably miss phase change again.
I don't think Oarfish is worth pursuing on "being in a quicktopic" alone, and I don't think there's going to be enough wagon sway to get him lynched for it.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #248 on:** June 21, 2015, 08:11:28 PM »

That said, should CF7 flip scum, this is a pretty hard scumtell for Oarfish (being that CF7 and Shadoweh were the only two who knew where the roleblock lie)

SB · « **Reply #249 on:** June 21, 2015, 09:50:40 PM »

I'm slightly late, but so is everyone else.

Quote from: SB on June 13, 2015, 01:47:20 PM

9. A hammer is required to lynch. It takes over 50% of the total votes in order to hammer. Failure to achieve a lynch twice will result in universal loss.

Um... yeah phase is over and this rule exists. It kind of looks like people are just way too busy for mafia at the moment, so unless I get at least 5/7 players + a Murrin sub in the next 24 hours saying that they want to continue the game, I'm gonna call it.

Send your actions anyway I guess. Sorry for the lax hosting.

Murrin · « **Reply #250 on:** June 21, 2015, 10:56:21 PM »

Sorry guys. Playing 3 mafia games at once was not a good choice for me.

I'll vote just to ensure a lynch. ##vote CF7

I have been following the thread but this is complicated stuff that I haven't had the time to sit down and really analyze.

If you can't find a sub for me, I'll make a serious effort to be more active in the game and post more.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #251 on:** June 21, 2015, 11:19:40 PM »

I'm willing to continue. Did not realize it was phase end - I'm basically afk on weekends.

Serela · « **Reply #252 on:** June 22, 2015, 01:33:02 AM »

I also didn't realize it was phase end :/ Normally I'm the one yelling it at everyone else. I'd like to keep going, even though this is kind of a wreck.

Serela · « **Reply #253 on:** June 22, 2015, 01:52:46 AM »

Although, that being said, I guess even if Murrin gets more active and doesn't need a sub, DNA was subbing out.

And honestly, d2 was just lol roleshens but didn't even make much of a conclusion.

And we no lynched d1 and d2.

Maybe it's -not- worth playing anymore? I mean, I'll keep going, but with the current state of MotK mafia it's dubious if we could get a sub in the first place, especially for such a questionable-state game.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #254 on:** June 22, 2015, 02:46:45 AM »

It does take a full team of players to play the game. :/ I'm still here but uh, not managing to hammer an L-1 wagon at deadline is pretty disgraceful.
Murrin, you're new so I understand the allure of all the mafias at once, just remember mafia is a one-game thing in the future.

Quality over quantity.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #255 on:** June 22, 2015, 02:51:49 AM »

Feeling a little conflicted but I'll throw my vote in to attempt to complete the game, too.

I'm really kind of put off that I was the last post before end of phase, though.

O4rfish · « **Reply #256 on:** June 22, 2015, 05:58:35 AM »

I don't think this game can complete. Mafia is dead, and the murderers are still here.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #257 on:** June 22, 2015, 07:39:41 AM »

That is exactly what caught scum would say~~

May as well just flip CF7 because that was what people wanted to do, only due to exams/weekend/timezones nobody was around to hammer.

Go to a night phase, business as usual in the next day. The show must go on etc.

O4rfish · « **Reply #258 on:** June 22, 2015, 07:48:17 AM »

You aren't seriously accusing me of being scum for not wanting to play with a guy who passed on two lynches, are you?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #259 on:** June 22, 2015, 07:57:06 AM »

It was just a joke, but NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT ZOMG R U FLAILING MOAR HARD

Perhaps if Dormio hasn't been spoilered to hell in the gyard, he can replace in for DNA.

SB · « **Reply #260 on:** June 22, 2015, 10:02:31 AM »

Ended up replacing Murrin with Raitaki because of activity. I think I have a second sub lined up who can take DNA's place I think but I need to confirm he's still able.

Please keep reads/game relevant content beyond "I (don't) want to continue" out of these nightposts in future.

SB · « **Reply #261 on:** June 22, 2015, 10:06:55 PM »

After some internal debate I decided to keep this trainwreck going.

It is now Night 2 for real. 24 hours for actions.

SB · « **Reply #262 on:** June 23, 2015, 02:11:06 AM »

Bard subs in for DNA.

SB · « **Reply #263 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:44:31 PM »

Sorry for being late.

Shadoweh, Town Limited Roleblocker, was killed Night 2.

It is now Day 3. Day 3 ends in 72 hours. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to Actually Lynch Someone.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #264 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:38:29 AM »

##Vote: CF7

O4rfish · « **Reply #265 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:38:58 AM »

#Vote CF7

Raitaki · « **Reply #266 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:49:22 AM »

So based on my preliminary analysis of the thread:

+ Serela's interactions with CF7 are kind of weird. Said she'd be fine with lynching CF7 for play-based reasons, but then raised an eyebrow at SkyPal's suggestion to lynch him for information for some reason. Does vote him later, but then immediately went "oh shit he's L-1". Her claim is also unverifiable unless we have a rolecop somewhere, and it's pretty darn convenient that it happened after the Charger flipped so that there'd be a good chance he'd get away with fakeclaiming a 0-shot role (and also a good chance the claim doesn't do anything but tell scum "Serela can't do shit"). Out of curiosity, Serela, what of the 4 choices for roles did you pick before the game?
+ Zakeri barely posts enough for me to decide a read on beyond the usual "he didn't do much!" Though there's a bit in D1 where he plopped his vote onto Serela just to ask her to explain why CF7's reasoning was bad, but thenlater finding two other suspects one of whom he "heavily" suspected, but voting neither of them. Makes me think his Serela vote was mainly made to get off the RVS Dormio vote, and that he might have even been hoping to stagnate the lynch for two days in a row.

Nothing really glaring from the rest yet, but I can try going deeper. For now ##Vote: Serela

Raitaki · « **Reply #267 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:54:14 AM »

Zak and Oarfish making identical near-empty posts within half a minute of each other is somewhat creepy

Raitaki · « **Reply #268 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:57:32 AM »

Quote from: Raitaki on June 24, 2015, 12:49:22 AM

Nothing really glaring from the rest yet, but I can try going deeper.

Aside from CF7, but I assume everyone has already agreed on lighting a fire under CF7's ass by now

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #269 on:** June 24, 2015, 01:30:12 AM »

Quote from: Raitaki on June 24, 2015, 12:54:14 AM

Zak and Oarfish making identical near-empty posts within half a minute of each other is somewhat creepy

It's much, much less creepy if you've been waiting for a lynch for over a week.