Puzzle and Dragons Thread 21: Revenge of the #OneTrueGod

[Jq1790]

Oh so Reco uses Sharon with Awoken Isis so you can get a guaranteed row in combo with Karin's active. And you still have 100% skill lock resist and another low cd active

Luckily I have her too :V

...I just need Karin.... _{this is gonna hurt even more than muse isnt it}

Karin shows up in 3x more than the Knights soo...MAYBE not?

[trancehime]

I guess I can't say I wasn't expecting a wave 1 invade.

awoken bastet pulling through again.

[commandercool]

Man, this game can not give me a decent distribution of +eggs. I started from scratch on Ra, so I wasn't taking any previous imbalance into working on him. He's +215 right now, and he's already almost capped on attack. Last time it was recovery. I don't understand it. Do math gooder, PAD. It slows down my Star Vault runs by a lot if I have to sort the eggs during the time limit.

[trancehime]

Ah yes the ur yandere of Japanese mythology showing her true colors

[Yukarin]

Ah yes the ur yandere of Japanese mythology showing her true colors

OH MY GOD DIZA YESSSSSSSSSSS

[O4rfish]

Is that Mishaguji-sama in her sleeve?

[trancehime]

Red "Dante aka Akihiko" Odin

[OverlordChirei]

Chirei tries it for the first time: Dream Labyrinth

[01:54] <Chirei> uhhh
[01:54] <Chirei> something's wrong
[01:55] <Chirei> i just went into hello kitty collab with verd srank team
[01:55] <Chirei> i thought the first wave was supposed to be some weird disembodied cat head slimes
[01:55] <Chirei> but instead these 2 weird looking girls walked up to me and asked me if i wanted an apple
[01:55] <Chaore> chirei plz
[01:55] <trance|work> Chirei pls
[01:55] <Chirei> what do i do i just ate
[01:56] <Chaore> kill them.



now i feel bad for having beaten up two random girls trying to offer me food

[Dorakyura]

Red "Dante aka Akihiko" Odin

Speer? Musket? Eyepatch?
Is he out to hunt down some whales?

[OverlordChirei]

Heads up - 3 compensation stones on 6/9 for extended maintenance and rejiggering of starvault that day. The fuck are all these losers talking about NA never getting free shit

[Espadas]

Speer? Musket? Eyepatch?
Is he out to hunt down some whales?

You are wrong, the whales will hunt him  :V

But seriously, first thought after seeing the image: "Captain Ahab!"

And DIza is awesome too! Damn me and my weakness to yanderes.....

[MatsuriSakuragi]

GIVE ULT DIZA AND RODIN :*

Also I finally managed to skillmax Liu Bei that took entirely too long

[commandercool]

Oh wow, compensation stones. Worst case scenario the delay lost me close to two stones (part of one for overflowing stamina, part of one for ranking up at the wrong time during Star Vault because I didn't have enough lead time). This more than covers that, and they moved the dungeon. Great. Super cool. Thank you, PAD.

What're we guessing for Izanami? I'm hoping for a skillboost, a prong, and a few stats. Could see bind immunity instead.

[Espadas]

Yay for compensation stones 

Btw, someone on PDX noted how similar the new DIza is to SEIGA KAKU!

TOUHOU COLLAB PLS!

Urgh, that would be the one collab to utterly kill my wallet....

[Dorakyura]

TOUHOU COLLAB PLS!

The only reason why I would switch to a green main team and abandon Nephthys.


Also, Matsuri, you could add Chibi LMeta as my second leader on the start page, I guess I will keep her there, for now (she is also max leveled hurray, have to find skillups, though...)

[Espadas]

The only reason why I would switch to a green main team and abandon Nephthys.

Patchouli would make an HELL of a rainbow leader  :derp:

MFW after about 30 minutes of S-ranking Light Faerie and being so close to killing the boss my phone shut down and when i restart PAD i'm on floor 1.... -__-

[O4rfish]

But Patchouli is already in the ECO collab ...

[Espadas]

But Patchouli is already in the ECO collab ...

Check the highest rated comment in the ECO Dumpty Alma page of PDX 


Evo Unite is up..... i finally have mathematical proof that this game have hidden routines that check what you need and what would troll you the most.

3 runs:
Floor 1: need Fruit, zero Seed --> got 2 Plants and 1 Flower
Floor 2: need Mystic, Light, Dark --> got 2 Reds and 1 Blue
Floor 3: couldn't get trolled here since i need them all, although...... need Dub-Myth, Dub-Dark --> got Red, Green, Light
Floor 4: this one almost reached EPIC levels..... need all of them bar Light --> got 3 Light  :trollface:
Floor 5: at least i got all 3 Rainbows

Feels like i ran 3 Keeper of Rainbow at 35 stam cost instead of 30  :V

[commandercool]

I'm anti-superstition as a rule, but do we think maybe there's a chance not all materials have equal droprates?

In my experience (which includes plenty of confirmation bias I'm sure) it seems like skillup materials for rare special gods drop MUCH more often than materials for their more common counterparts.

Blue fruit is much more common than red and green from both Trifruits and the PEM. Devilit is way more common than Angit in Twinlits and PEM. The only thing they have in common is that they're tied to the "chase" special gods that fewer people have.

I'm not saying that this is true, but it is a pattern I've noticed and a tiny bit of a conspiracy theory that I have. Does this ring true to anyone else, or am I completely full of shit? Maybe I'll start recording my drops just to get a clearer (although still uselessly tiny) sample.

[OverlordChirei]

I'm anti-superstition as a rule, but do we think maybe there's a chance not all materials have equal droprates?

Nothing says it isn't possible. I mean if you consider trifruits and a simple mathematical impossibility, it's impossible to completely evenly divide 100% into three equal percentages, so one of the fruits would have 33.4% drop rate, and there's technically nothing stopping them from entering individual drop rates for different units that way. Of course, this is assuming the drop rate works that way, and not say, it randomly first picks one of the three out of a roulette, and then checks to see what its drop rate is when the unit is selected. Either of these assumptions could be completely wrong though.

[commandercool]

I've always assumed droprates were even just because so many people play PAD that we should be able to sniff out any abnormalities in drops, and I figured there would be a consensus if anything fishy was going on. But given that nobody has ever figured out the exact droprates for anything that isn't 100% I'm kind if starting to question that logic.

[Chaore]

Nothing says it isn't possible. I mean if you consider trifruits and a simple mathematical impossibility, it's impossible to completely evenly divide 100% into three equal percentages, so one of the fruits would have 33.4% drop rate, and there's technically nothing stopping them from entering individual drop rates for different units that way. Of course, this is assuming the drop rate works that way, and not say, it randomly first picks one of the three out of a roulette, and then checks to see what its drop rate is when the unit is selected. Either of these assumptions could be completely wrong though.

The second is basically confirmed- as in, one unit is chosen first, and then it's individual drop rate is chosen.

The first roll is obviously still possible of being different rates, but honestly it's more likely that people notice the rare fruits etc. more because they have less use for them.

[commandercool]

The first roll is obviously still possible of being different rates, but honestly it's more likely that people notice the rare fruits etc. more because they have less use for them.

I agree, that is the most likely answer. But at the very least I can confirm that of my last 16 trifruits, 12 have been blue. And of my last 7 dublits, 5 were devilits.

That doesn't really mean anything, the most likely answer is coincidence, but I'm gonna start keeping track I guess. I mean, my PAD is on the same phone as my pad... notepad app.

[Moogs Parfait]

I have a theory about testing this.

1. Choose a pantheon to test with, preferably with a bunch of things you don't need.
2. Evo everything else in your box.
3. Un-Ult-Evo your test pantheon.
4. Run weekly dungeons and track your results
5. Sell the evo mats for 1 color without using any of the rest
6. Run weekly dungeons again
7. Repeat for various combinations of needed evo mats, including no evo mats needed.

My theory is that there really is a desire detector for things you *don't* have, which is why people get a million of Dark Mats when they need Light Mats.   Thus if you want to increase the drops of say, Dub-topalits, you need to have a bunch of them in your box.

This is undermined by the fact that GungHo can control the ratios behind the scenes, including standard gambling stuff like hidden hot and cold days, servers, hours, mats, etc.  There may even be a real AI running the show in the background, applying psychological heuristics to each player individually to increase purchasing. How many millions does this game make again?

[OverlordChirei]

conspiracy theory

It turns out PAD is actually powered by Skynet all along.

[Moogs Parfait]

It turns out PAD is actually powered by Skynet all along.

You and Marisa here will regret not heeding my warnings!   :colbert:

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Today has been a day of successes.


Liu Bei skillmaxed, Noah Mythical beaten for the first time, and Legendary Earth beaten for the first time. No Zaerog drop though.

[The Greatest Dog]

I think one time I did a joke run of Noah Mythical with
Noah/Sakuya/Leilan/Haku/Meimei/Noah

Sorry, Karin. Boat girl too strong.
I'll have to see if I can pull that off again.

No Apocalypse skill ups today. 2.5x is a liiiieee.

[commandercool]

For some reason I have an easy time buying this...

...standard gambling stuff like hidden hot and cold days, servers, hours, mats, etc....

But not any of this...

everything else

I guess because of the level of activity required to maintain scheduled hot times versus monitoring individual players' activity. It's not impossible by any means with an algorithm, but for some reason I find it to be very far-fetched. Seems too conspiracy to me, but what do I know?

[Chaore]

All of this is super conspiracy, seriously.

I've gone insanely ragey before at this game (as many can attest) and I've never gone this far, what :v

also

Today has been a day of successes.

Thanks for the reminder I had something to do today.