Puzzle and Dragons Thread 20 - The thread is now Xuanzang, 20 posts or less only

[trancehime]

Does anyone who's friends with me in-game (or anyone, really) have any input about what I should put in my second leader slot? It had been hypermax Reine for a long time, but I've been switching it around to different things because of her limited use as a lead. I could do Reine, Athena, Verdandi, Kali, dark Metatron, or GZL. All of them are max level/awoken and either max skill or with multiple skillups and the intent to max skill soon, but none of them but Reine have more than a handful of +eggs.

Verdandi = Athena > Kali > DMeta > GZL / Reine

in order of highest preference to lowest

[Jq1790]

I'll say Verdandi to benefit those who use her since Im pretty sure she still isnt seen much here in NA(No idea about JP but that one is irrelevant to this anyway) and meanwhile you cant turn a corner these days without tripping over Athenas.

[commandercool]

My Athena is certainly the minimun usable Athena (well, not quite, she is at least skillmax), but sometimes people need a ton of Athenas up for farming. Although I guess the same could be true of Verdandi, she would be a great farm lead if more people had her/put her up.

[trancehime]

My Athena is certainly the minimun usable Athena (well, not quite, she is at least skillmax), but sometimes people need a ton of Athenas up for farming. Although I guess the same could be true of Verdandi, she would be a great farm lead if more people had her/put her up.

Verdandi has higher capacity to clear descends than Athena.

She is one of the most popular Norns in NA due to the ubiquity of Liu Bei owners.

[commandercool]

Do you think that matters for non-+ed monsters? U've been assuming that my +-less secondary leads will always be at the bottom of people's list of choices and therefore will only be actually used by people who are farming.

I got away with my Kali being just skillmax for a while, but everyone who has a few Kali friends probably has better ones now, and the same is probably true for Verdandi. Is it?

[OverlordChirei]

My Athena is certainly the minimun usable Athena (well, not quite, she is at least skillmax)

I use Lv80/+0 Athenas at SLv1 for farming. Lv99 is hardly minimum, and I almost never need the skill to be used nowadays.

With that said, I don't really think any of them are a particularly bad choice unless you mean "which one will generate me the most PAL points." Using the others in slot 2 helps add variety, like Reine could be used for water farming (I thought about this recently...), or maybe some people actually run GZL. Verdandi is actually fairly common in public users from what I've seen nowadays, and anyone that wants to farm alts probably has the sense to have several Athenas added already.

[commandercool]

As of right now I don't really care about pal points. They don't get me anything I want. But if there's a thing I can put up that would help people I might as well do it.

[Dorakyura]

 :derp: :derp: :derp: If you want Palpoints, why not go for a Ronia  :derp: :derp: :derp:

[The Greatest Dog]

Because the number of hypermax Ronias out there makes you very indistinguishable.

Make a Beelzebub instead and all the Ronias will flock to you.

Re-skill maxed Persephone with three wicked ladies. Good feelings.

If they end up making an Awoken Persephone, I really hope her stats remain intact. She may not have more than two good awoken skills right now, but it's because of her garbage awoken skills that she has 800+ in weighted stats without plus eggs...

[Jq1790]

Do not be me and forget that Depth Plesios in Challenge Lv 4 has God Blizzard Breath under 25% HP with no lead-in.  That is all.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Do not be me and forget that Depth Plesios in Challenge Lv 4 has God Blizzard Breath under 25% HP with no lead-in.  That is all.

I was you before you were you in this case

Fortunately I managed to beat it by going Horus instead of Athena. Horus also carried me through Level 6 which means I now have two flampys to feed to my eventual Awoken Horus!

(Do I dare try challenge 7?)

EDIT: Checking level 7, I can maybe do it with GZL, so long as Medjed doesn't screw me over with his leader change (AKA gives me Liu Bei instead of anything else.)

[Suikama]

Do not be me and forget that Depth Plesios in Challenge Lv 4 has God Blizzard Breath under 25% HP with no lead-in.  That is all.

rip me

[Janitor Morgan]

I'm probably not touching level 7 because I struggled so much with Thothdet in the one challenge I bothered to fight them in. And it's doubly worrying this time because Isis preemptive.

At the same time, I feel like with enough heart skyfall luck and if I had a Tengu, I could Luci level 9. :V Tengu would let me survive Nebula Inferno and Sakuya's dark bind, but the problem is in order to get through Defoud in the first place I'd need three gravities, and Haku has gravities of her own. orz

[commandercool]

Do not be me and forget that Depth Plesios in Challenge Lv 4 has God Blizzard Breath under 25% HP with no lead-in.  That is all.

Ha ha yup, he got me too. I even had PDX open to that window, I just didn't bother to look at it.

Challenge 7 seems very doable with Gabriel. In fact, it's basically made for him aside from the fact that you have to grind through a ton of green HP.

[Suikama]

so challenge 7 isnt too hard

except im so bad i cant make over 4 combos and keep dying to medjedra

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Not a huge accomplishment, but...



Finally did it.

[trancehime]

so challenge 7 isnt too hard

except im so bad i cant make over 4 combos and keep dying to medjedra

Medjedra is still a bitch even without any combo shield; he has 1M more than his Mythical form and hits slightly harder.

I was doing really well on my Challenge 7 run until I hit him into "Medjed the End" range and he killed me.

[The Greatest Dog]

Beelze/Ronia is now stable enough that I can nonchalantly run Hera Rush whenever I want an EXTREEEEEME Metal Dragon now.

How this team has changed.

[Suikama]

Medjedra is still a bitch even without any combo shield; he has 1M more than his Mythical form and hits slightly harder.

I was doing really well on my Challenge 7 run until I hit him into "Medjed the End" range and he killed me.

I keep dying to mejedend too

worst part is i have kushi on my team but i keep failing to use her at the right time

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Beelze/Ronia is now stable enough that I can nonchalantly run Hera Rush whenever I want an EXTREEEEEME Metal Dragon now.

How this team has changed.

Out of curiosity, what's your build again? My whole roniabub dynamic has changed now that devildora is a thing.

[OverlordChirei]

Not a huge accomplishment, but...



Finally did it.

get fucked gold keeper

[The Greatest Dog]

Out of curiosity, what's your build again? My whole roniabub dynamic has changed now that devildora is a thing.

Took out Persephone, added Ceres this time around (for Hera-Is binds?). Byakko+CDD is there, as always, but I have Neptune to cushion Hera-Is slightly and gib EXTREEEEEME metal kings.

[Mr. Sacchi]

So far I haven't been able to beat even stage 1 of Challenge 7 simply because of sheer lack of hearts.

The closest I've gotten was killing the blue mask (to buy me one more turn) and then being one hit short of killing the green mask despite managing to match green/red/dark (all of my team's colors) :c

[commandercool]

I just fought Medjed for 98 turns, took him from The End to full health accidentally FOUR TIMES, and then I died. I have no idea what just killed me.

FUUUCK.

[O4rfish]

Bodin fully awake now.

[Jq1790]

I look forward to exploiting that, O4rfish.  In a couple of weeks if everything goes as planned I will use him to finally beat down Gold.

[O4rfish]

Oh? Post team build please.  I haven't even ran Gold yet - there's a risky Perseverance / Godin team I've been hoping to try, but Bodin's uvo pushed the team cost out of reach again.

I have a Sieg/Bodin/Bubbly/Lilith/Echidna / Bodin team I'm going to use for Twinlits on Friday.  On paper it has an extremely low failure rate, even with Sieg at t-9 and Lilith at t-11.

[Jq1790]

Oh? Post team build please.  I haven't even ran Gold yet - there's a risky Perseverance / Godin team I've been hoping to try, but Bodin's uvo pushed the team cost out of reach again.

I have a Sieg/Bodin/Bubbly/Lilith/Echidna / Bodin team I'm going to use for Twinlits on Friday.  On paper it has an extremely low failure rate, even with Sieg at t-9 and Lilith at t-11.

I have no idea if it'll actually work, but...
Hermes/Undine/TwinStarLeviathan/Orochi/Karin/[BOdin]

The idea's to just fight normally through the first waves just doing my best not to die because of all the pre-emptives, then when I get to Gold pop Orochi and try to burn down the first half of his HP as fast as I can.  Then when he prepares to use Hand of Destruction, I activate Undine and hope my row stacking is up to par to finish him off before the immunity wears off.

Even with a bunch of my team members not very leveled, I still have over 50k HP with that team, so when it IS leveled, well...I figure I can facetank the pre-emps and heal up with combinations of heal orbs now and again(though they won't do MUCH due to my team heavily lacking in RCV minus perhaps Karin and of course your BOdin with his ridiculous every stat, though it'll be a bit higher as well once everyone's leveled sufficiently.

[Janitor Morgan]

So today I discovered that PDX's info for challenge 6 Takeminakata is wrong. As listed, even with the buff, Divine Katana of Yasaka should have been survivable with the Odin/Ama team I was using, just from raw HP alone.

I died by like 30 points, which means his attack stat is higher than listed (and thus all of his skills as well). Checked the comments on the dungeon afterwards and had that confirmed; should start doing that before attempting next time...

EDIT: Skyozora is saying that not only is his attack actually 6583 (so Divine Katana does 21072), but his HP (6254583) is enough that the team I tried to tackle him with can't actually cut it. Time for another approach.

[commandercool]

I hate my life.