Sorry about the late response, my stomach chose pretty much the worst time to rebel. I (literally) feel your pain, Elieson.
The main thing that changed was I had been scum reading Eli/Serela as buddies, or somethign was going on there. I was so sure. I can't explain to you how confident i was that Serela was scum. I thought - and still do!- that I had caught her lying about her rvs vote. But on day 5 it was obvious Serela was town and on day 6 I have to at least consider that Refa is scum, and that means Eli has a chance of being town. I'd probably been conf-bias reading her up until then, almost certainly because she was attacking me all game. So I went to reread it and think "Is this content that town could make?" and then I remembered that town want to make cases and be communicatable, scum want to obfuscate things and not.
Is what I want to say. I'm actually very sleepy and not sure what content you're referring to here.
Oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...that explains your turnaround on Elieson, then (if you were primarily scumreading him because of an associative read with Serela, then I understand why your read on him would drastically change after BT/Serela's flips). Inclined to believe you here because your conviction reads as genuine (your explanation could come from either alignment, but I don't believe that you'd be ~that confident~ that you caught Serela on a scumslip as scum, even after she flipped). Fair enough regarding your turnaround on me, maybe it just read poorly to me at the time because I was expecting an entirely different response. Regardless, you quoted the content I was referring to earlier in your post (wherein you mention that Elieson's read on you was scummy). I can get why you'd want to look at things from a different perspective, but you never addressed the downright bizarre change of opinions here. Would like you to do so when you can.
Because I caught her lying day 1 and she happily contradicted herself at least twice and nobody gives a fuck. That hit my enrage button. I wanted her dead. I needed her dead because she is an anathema to all that I live and stand for. I try for logic. I really do. I have a degree that says at some point, I must have passed some kind of logic course called 'statistical analysis' and I did it well. And I'm really an excellent software debugger if I say so myself, which I just did.
Most of the time people are consistent and follow the three main laws of physics. Serela is none of these things. The rest of you are like well-behaved numbers; numbers yes, that follow rules and fit into formula's and equations and I can press buttons and pull levers and an expected behavior or something close to it will come out. Serela isn't a real number. She's not even a floating point or an inquantifiable constant like pi. She's, just, k^2 = -1. I can't deal with it.
And if I hadn't had her town confirmed on day 5, I might have taken the Oarfish option. But she was confirmed town and so was Oarfish so that ought to be a really interesting graveyard topic for us all to read.
Already explained my thoughts on your Serela read, but I just want to say that this is my favorite post of the whole game. Not game relevant, but I'm genuinely curious as to how you can manage to play with Serela without going insane. I'd assume the graveyard topic is raging about how O4rfish claimed scum just so that they could shoot obvious town, because that's what I'd be doing if I was there myself. Today could have been
so much easier without that O4rfish shot (actually, the game could have feasibly ended on Day 5 itself).
I've been scum with Shadoweh before.
This was not really her scum game so I was null on her for the longest time. Scum!Shadoweh is more passive/reactive. However I saw her flipflop on her Serela read, and I thought Serela was scum, and when Shadoweh picked at Serela, Serela didn't blink. Normally Serela flares up at the slightest hint of provocation. So I thought "Ahah, well if Serela is scum, Shadoweh must be too." And by now I was certain Serela was scum, so it was easy to think that Shadoweh must be too, even the point of partially disregarding her meta.
So you were scumreading Shadoweh purely because of an associative read over her own content... but I thought that you were scumreading Elieson/Serela, so what made Shadoweh/Serela more likely? Additionally, something that bothered me (that I totally forgot to actually post like the dunce I am) was when you accused Shadoweh of lurking; what gave you the impression that she was doing so (asking because I felt she was outputting content consistently enough to be considered relatively active)?
I have been told by different players that I over use information instead of analysis/tend to intimidate/threaten players.
I also this one time tried to lie my way out of a confirm guilty but had to self hammer when another detective appeared with a guilty on my buddy so we'll never know if I would have pulled it off.
I have also been told that I'm a lot more careless with my vote as scum.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. You're playing to your scum meta with the former (well, not currently, but on earlier days), but you've been super cautious with your vote so far. If I can take this at face value, then you're more likely to be town. For the record, this was ~kind of~ a reaction test, because I figured as scum all of your meta would point to a single alignment (town if you wanted to play it safe and scum if you wanted to WIFOM hard). As town, you'd have a mixture of both (speaking from my own experience here, but as town I notice how aspects of my play are shockingly similar to my scum meta).
I don't know, it's 3 am , and I can't parse walls any more.
I'm underwhelmed with Eli's content this day phase though.
Fair enough. It'd be cool if you could respond to this (and my other replies to you in this post as well) when you get back on, because this and Elie's pending responses are literally the only reasons that I'm not voting him right now.
