Author Topic: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Game Over (Read 48052 times)

Serela · « **Reply #630 on:** April 21, 2015, 12:07:24 PM »

I didn't say no one says you're scummy, I said no one has actually -really- talked about lynching you, which I think is actually true >:V Kinda like how d2 everyone didn't really like rawr but until I starting kicking and screaming about it no one actually cared enough to think HMMM MAYBE THE UNIVERSAL SCUMREAD SHOULD BE LYNCHED

Although honestly I'd still really just rather lynch BT. not that I've reread you yet I'm pretty lazy but just from what I remember there's nothing particularly off about your posts, they might not be town A+++ but BT feels more guilty of anything I could try to accuse you of

O4rfish · « **Reply #631 on:** April 21, 2015, 12:29:56 PM »

Skypal: not even going to respond to my posts?

O4rfish · « **Reply #632 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:05:00 PM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on April 20, 2015, 11:23:31 PM

So the reason I asked *those players* for a list is because I felt that the night kills weren't related to current game state, but instead game meta; look at these deaths:
Many of the players currently in the game have never played with Vhaltz, but it seems we have somebody picking kills based on meta, because why SB. So we're looking for a long time player of the game -> Shadoweh or BT.

So, what you're saying is that someone has been choosing the kills based on past games INSTEAD of the current game. What kind of person would want to do that? Perhaps a person who isn't reading the current game, but who can rely on past experience?

maybe ... BT!

Serela · « **Reply #633 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:42:03 PM »

I don't think the nightkills are weird at all. Okay, Vhaltzuki d1 was a little weird. But after that it's been people who were heavily townread in addition to being generally strong players.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #634 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:45:01 PM »

To be honest, my first pick was NNR. I've been scum with him in the past before and he heavily put forward meta as the basis for the night kills. Untitled Story IIRC.

I'm currently ruling it out because of the Rawr/NNR interactions not making sense. There was a post somewhere that if Oarfish flipped scum I'd be scum reading BT or something, I can't remember.

I may be overlooking BT unfairly because I don't get a scum vibe from his posts...because he doesn't post. From Shadoweh I get barely concealed hostility and I intuitively don't like it. The main thing Shadoweh has going for her imo is that she wasn't on the Zak wagon. Or maybe smart scum wouldn't have touched that lynch.

From you I get obfuscation and what feels like a deliberate attempt to be confusing. From Serela I get a feeling of something dirty. She wants to comment on everything and have the last word on everything.

Mainly I've gotten used to two week day phases over on Mafiascum and I haven't been able to scour this thread like I wished I could.

Time left on phase end?

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Who was townreading SB?

Serela · « **Reply #635 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:59:31 PM »

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She wants to comment on everything and have the last word on everything.

what.

I'm scummy because I'm -here-? >:T

Serela · « **Reply #636 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:00:29 PM »

>Time left on phase end?
I think the day ends in 9 hours almost exactly.

Serela · « **Reply #637 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:05:51 PM »

This is awkward because BT doesn't exist.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #638 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:06:46 PM »

You post a lot of stuff and you glibly contradict without caring. You twice said this game that you were too lazy to check something you yourself said.

That's in stark contrast with the apparent effort you seem to put in to the game. If you wanted to be taken seriously, you could do it. You've proven yourself capable if you want to, so I guess my question is, why don't you want to?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #639 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:14:41 PM »

However, I agree it would be great if BT existed...I mean this day 2/day3?
Lynched lurker Rawr -> he was scum.
Lynched lurker Zak -> he was town.
Lurker BT ->

Key differences - Zak spent a good deal of time being town read by people. It took a special effort (voting Serela for wagons or something) and probably some scum pushing to get him lynched. Nobody had been town reading Rawr, apart from Eli.
I'm not entirely sure why I'm town reading BT except that nothing bad came up when I read his posts. We have time, I'll read them again when I get up and contrast with Shadowhe. It's what I wanted to do today but my day was cut six hours short by RL stuff.

Serela · « **Reply #640 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:23:33 PM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on April 21, 2015, 03:06:46 PM

You twice said this game that you were too lazy to check something you yourself said.
You've proven yourself capable if you want to, so I guess my question is, why don't you want to?

With the D1 occurrence, I refused to check not out of laziness, but out of spite because it was completely ludicrous that the subject was even being treated as if it mattered, which it never did and never can despite you trying to insist otherwise.

The second time was because I already know you aren't -going- to take me seriously, as shown by several statements you made today and the comments you made about how I've gone about voting BT.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #641 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:28:42 PM »

And what about towards the rest of the players in the game?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #642 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:38:58 PM »

##unvote

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #643 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:42:17 PM »

I'll sleep on it.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #644 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:54:00 PM »

Nah. Your game play can't really be "say whatever I want to spite Sky." This game is not all about me.

##vote Serela

NOW Ill sleep on it.

Serela · « **Reply #645 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:57:16 PM »

I don't think anyone else has actually given reasons they're suspicious of me? I might have missed something though.

Although, at this point, opinions on the major wagons are probably most important. Deadline's in 8 hours. O4rfish and BT are both L-2. Elie and SkyPal are the ones not on the wagons, although they both sound like they're more likely to be voting O4rfish than BT.

Sometime soon I'll reread BT to write up something convincing like I have near deadline every other day this game!

cut by :V Dude that's not even close to what's going on here. And I hadn't said it like that to spite you because YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION AT THE TIME I DID THAT

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #646 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:57:54 PM »

The trouble is that I try to take you seriously. I hold you to the same standard of accountability I hold everybody else to. Anybody else slacked off on their reads or contradict themselves? They'd be dead. But because you have a meta for...I don't know what to call it, you always, ALWAYS get a free pass.

So here I go again, treating you seriously. Don't make me regret it.

Serela · « **Reply #647 on:** April 21, 2015, 04:03:27 PM »

Dude, the issue is you have your head in the clouds with your reads. You point out I had a town read on bt FUCKING DAY ONE and accuse me of being contradictory? What the fucking shit man. I can't take -you- seriously. >:T

okay I'm going to go back to devil of decline for awhile `-`

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #648 on:** April 21, 2015, 06:32:28 PM »

Work til 4 and bike has a flat, wont be around till deadline

Serela · « **Reply #649 on:** April 21, 2015, 07:54:36 PM »

I reread BT and for some reason I'm starting to buy more into the "townie who's way too busy IRL" thing ;____; No no no that's not what's supposed to happen, I don't really like the o4rfish wagon eitherrrrrr
Reread O4rfish (his d3 and d4, at least. I already know d1 was cruisy low presence and d2 was hard effort but unintelligible). He's still kinda that hard-to-read thing but overall I think he's more likely town than not. My sudden viewpoint swap on BT makes Shadoweh look so much worse as I go backwards through the thread though. Time to reread her instead! It's a reread bonanza! Except not really, because BT had like 5 posts to read and most of O4rfish's are short after d2.

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Zak's vote on Serela isn't unusual and you guys are jumping at shadowehs. Cross wagons between Zak and Serela after yesterday are shameful. What do you two think of Elieson and of BT's lack of will to live?

But then I read Shadoweh's stuff before d4 and would Shadoweh really... off aguh aghgghaghhaghghhgh mafia plz I want to go back to just voting BT and not having any conflictions

Well... I still don't like the o4rfish wagon nor the thought of his vengevig so between the two I'd still rather lynch BT :T But now I don't feel good about it anymore. ;_; Maybe I should also reread ellieson sometime but I highly doubt flashwagoning is going to happen in the next 4 hours, so

Serela · « **Reply #650 on:** April 21, 2015, 08:00:42 PM »

Bonus for SkyPal! You know, you'd think going through your own posts would be easy compared to going through others, but unlike all the other rereads I actually posted a million times. :T

On D3 I talked about BT here in post #426 and here in post #479. There are the missing links in my "inconsistent reads". They may not be very indepth analysis of BT, but bear with me here, the guy only has a few posts, there's not much one can do.

wait holy shit I completely forget refa exists man this guy

Serela · « **Reply #651 on:** April 21, 2015, 08:08:35 PM »

oh god refa's posts are big, do I really want to reread all this (yes, I have to, fine)

okay refa reads super legit, esp. stuff like how he was reacting about his Dr.Rawr reread when the rawr lynch was already obvious and unavoidable

also I feel like I need to apologize for forgetting about Refa after realizing how much he's posted and how much effort he's clearly put into the game? It's probably just because he hasn't played here before, I mean, I can barely remember my own posts much less the ones of someone I don't know

Serela · « **Reply #652 on:** April 21, 2015, 08:12:47 PM »

End result:Scum is in Shadoweh/O4rfish/BT/Ellieson because the other players are town. Now, from there... HAHA I'M WAFFLING ON ALL OF THEM ENTER DEPRESSION MODE AUUUUUUUUUUGH

-O4rfish is the least waffley of the reads in that I'm be okay with betting he's town but unfortunately I have to admit he's the least understandable person and that might be getting in the way?
-BT might just be town that doesn't have much time, but if he's scum and he's just abusing that to lurk... :S There's nothing particularly town-looking from his posts other than that they're well made, they're too sparse for the good content to actually make him reliably town and there's no interactions notably suggesting he's town either.
-Ellison... I'd... have to reread again, look I just reread like half the players ask me tomorrow instead
-Shadoweh I'm the most waffle I'm sorry ;_;

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #653 on:** April 21, 2015, 09:35:56 PM »

Read up on thread. Thoughts have not changed. Bike fixed but still not at home. Not sure when deadline is but I agree with skypal. Lynch serela or oarfish. If one flips town shoot the other. Im 100% confident one is scum. 90% confident current BT wagon contains both scum

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #654 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:09:45 PM »

I'm here and camping the thread until deadline.

Serela · « **Reply #655 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:13:31 PM »

shadoweh I have no idea what other words left to say please come help me :C

(if you're scum you can go laugh in your qt about it)

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #656 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:20:34 PM »

Unofficial vote count;

Day 4.x - Votals
BT (3) - Shadoweh, Serela, O4rfish
O4rfish (2) - Refa, BT
Shadoweh (1) - Elieson
Serela (2) - NNR, Sky

Deadline in I think about 40 minutes. It'd be great if Rawr used a proper countdown timer in the future.

Refa · « **Reply #657 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:22:23 PM »

Deadline is in 2 hours and 40 minutes, right? Making a post right now, but I don't know if it'll be done in 40 minutes.

Serela · « **Reply #658 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:23:15 PM »

You're both wrong, it's 1 hour and 40 minutes :V

Serela · « **Reply #659 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:24:15 PM »

no wait nvm actually upon checking daystart I think refa is right