Author Topic: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Game Over  (Read 48052 times)

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #390 on: April 12, 2015, 08:12:01 PM »
But when I ignore him I'm scum because I wasn't ignoring him (and scum because I wasn't)
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #391 on: April 12, 2015, 08:14:31 PM »
I'm ignoring Oarfish because I've come to the conclusion that he is unreadable. I think he should probably be vengekilled when we get there though just because he'll be a complete question mark in *YLO.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #392 on: April 12, 2015, 08:15:42 PM »
The SB case sounded a lot better when I wrote it, but tbh now I'm feeling like it isn't even though I don't like SB for his general lack of conviction he had for way too long into the game.

I think people are right though, there's not enough scum intent for it to work well.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #393 on: April 12, 2015, 08:17:23 PM »
NNR, are you scumreading Oarfish?  I can't tell from your recent posts (even though the last time you read him, you said you were townreading him).

Anyways, going to ISO Dr. Rawr (more like Dr. Lurk Harder) and see if I can get anything of value from his earlier posts.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #394 on: April 12, 2015, 08:19:15 PM »
I want to scumread Oarfish, yes, but I don't want to be lynched because I am scumreading Oarfish
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #395 on: April 12, 2015, 08:21:50 PM »
On the other hand there is a certain amount of audacity that I can tolerate from people and Oarfish has crossed that threshold because he refuses to do anything sensible
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #396 on: April 12, 2015, 08:22:56 PM »
I think that the bottom line is that I hate everyone for blindly sheeping Bard.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #397 on: April 12, 2015, 08:28:35 PM »
*even though Bard is town**
*and excepting the people who aren't sheeping Bard
*and excepting the people who don't actually think I'm scum

**but he's still a jerk
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #398 on: April 12, 2015, 08:43:49 PM »
Quote from: SkyPaladin
I feel that Serela is passively encouraging wagons without getting involved.  Rawr vote was late and the Sky!Hate from day 1 is missing, which strongly indicates she was defensive/reaction rather than legit scumhunting.
Rawr vote was late, but at least I've been consistently talking about wanting him lynched since late d1 for whatever that's worth. About the SkyPal part... did you forget the end of d1 yesterday where I grudgingly admitted repeatedly that it's completely reasonable to think you're town? :C

Kind of agree with SB's "o4rfish is unreadable". I don't know what to make of him. When I try to recall other games he's played, I think he always got lynched early for being kinda underwhelming? (and always flipped town, not that he couldn't still be scum here, but, the point is honestly it could be either or and I have no idea how I'm supposed to tell)

Anyways, going to ISO Dr. Rawr (more like Dr. Lurk Harder) and see if I can get anything of value from his earlier posts.
the funny part is it'd probably be pretty simple to just quote every post right here for everyone to look at, I mean there's only like, 4 and they're all small

but considering what the wagons are at I don't think it's necessary for me to do this  :3
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #399 on: April 12, 2015, 08:49:32 PM »
Scumreads: NNR, SB, Elie, BT.
Townreads: Bard, nobody else

Wow, this is terrible. The best case today is from someone I'm scumreading, and yes my post on it was sarcasm which only the target of the case (SB) picked up on.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #400 on: April 12, 2015, 08:50:34 PM »
I didn't even think it was sarcasm, just that you were horribly wrong.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #401 on: April 12, 2015, 09:10:51 PM »
Zak's post on Oarfish feels genuine which kind of reinforces my townread on the slot.

Huh, I thought you meant my slot, but I guess you could have meant Zak's slot.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #402 on: April 12, 2015, 09:11:31 PM »
Zak was scumreading you how did you even think that???

50 minutes left.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #403 on: April 12, 2015, 09:15:53 PM »
This is the point where we go "There's enough votes to get a lynch at all, right?"

O4rfish, you're fine with swapping to Rawr before deadline to ensure a lynch, right? I mean I assume so but it's always nice to make sure.

Then we'd need one more.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #404 on: April 12, 2015, 09:22:56 PM »
In the abstract, Rawr doesn't have a lot of content and one large chunk of it is anti-town. I don't think he would be a valuable member of a scum team, but I do like the idea of lynching him if it would get other people to post more.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #405 on: April 12, 2015, 09:25:00 PM »
serela isnt scum you people are crazy you heard it from dr rawr first.

i have no idea what mitsuki means by bard being to aggressive. would mitsuki give some kind of obvious example of bardiche being a jerk as town and being even more of a jerk as scum?

##Vote: Sky paladin
i dont like the wording on his #71 that seems to make out that scum has to be either mitsuki or serela

I don't have any actual issues with his townread or his Mitsuki question, but his scumread on Sky Paladin is very surface level (just picking apart one bad thing).

its not misrep you actually did say you thought one or the other was scum. if you think its misrep why would you even bother saying  "If I had to pick right now between who I'd keep in the game"

Not currently relevant, but I don't see this as scum vi scum interactions.  Can't really get any reads off of Dr. Rawr individually though.

cant quite say i agree with oarfishes spreadsheets seeing as scum can roll around and do what ever they want. i also like to think scum wouldnt actually go and make a spread sheet explaining who they think could possible be scum and then voting someone completely different so oarfish is pretty town in my book for that reason.@oarfish in what situation would scum go for a no lynch with this kind of game setup? i cant understand why you would bring something like that up


not going to go back and see if i should reread and see if i should comment about something sky paladin say very early day one so ill forget about that and move on.

ill look back at bt and nnr when i have time later butt for some reason im not really feeling either of them as scum atm.

Oarfish townread is fine, but (again with the Sky Paladin) I don't like how he dropped his Sky Paladin read considering it was the only scumread he had on the last phase.  BT and NNR reads are just kind of thrown there, which isn't really bad but well...hard to read.

ok you guys look im not some kind of one trick pony that lurks every game as scum.

anyways imma trust bardiche on this one. my gut is telling me NNR is actually town but hey im pretty sure bardiche is right more often than not.
##Vote: NNR
my gut is probably telling me BT is scum but thats just because he also i think has a scum lurk meta and i have nothing else to slam into BT about him possibly being scum. i wouldbe voting BT right now but looking at the wagon we have zakeri who has made one post about his vote and that was him agreeing with oarfish theory on who the scum team is which i think kinda fell apart when he voted NNR. and elieson seems pretty upset BT tried to end the phase early and something about voting oarfish.

i dont actually blame anyone for trying to vote oarfish when he started throwing out the spreadsheets since the day before he had just claimed scum or w/e and then he just tried throwing out confusing shit that nobody actually cares about

Ugh, this post.  This post.  I would be way more willing to sheep a read on him (since I literally forgot he existed until people started voting him today), but I just can't see scum being so inconsistent.  Maybe it's because I'm such a perfectionist as scum myself, but I can't come up with a scum explanation for him voting NNR despite townreading him.  Not really sure what to make of his issues with BT, it's just an unorganized mess and I don't even.

i didnt really see a BT wagon happening anyways i have to go do other stuff so oh well

Not sure what to make of this response.

I can get why people are scumreading Dr. Rawr and I have no issues with them (if we're going to end up lynching a lurker, it's best to do it before *YLO), it's just that one post that makes this frustrating for me.  Bah, mafia sucks.  Like I said before though, I'll consolidate on him at around 10 minutes before phase end.

NNR, I'll parse through your replies later (kind of busy ATM).

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #406 on: April 12, 2015, 09:31:27 PM »
I want to scumread Oarfish, yes, but I don't want to be lynched because I am scumreading Oarfish
Priorities and goals. This post makes it sound like yours are not Town.
And if I thought we could swing the wagon, I might even press this harder.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #407 on: April 12, 2015, 09:38:20 PM »
Refa and Oarfish swapping to Rawr gives us enough votes. 22 minutes.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #408 on: April 12, 2015, 09:39:36 PM »
Maybe it's because I'm such a perfectionist as scum myself
This actually is useful, if it's true.

Kinda wishing Shadoweh did MORE than an ActionDan-style "my townreads vote for this guy so me too, now bye until tomorrow" but that's an issue for another day.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #409 on: April 12, 2015, 09:47:41 PM »
Are we seriously going to no lynch?

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #410 on: April 12, 2015, 09:48:30 PM »
O4rfish and refa both said they'd consolidate on rawr so, no?

There -is- only 12 minutes though, so it's about time for that to happen.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #411 on: April 12, 2015, 09:50:28 PM »
Dr Rawr (5) - SB, Serela, NNR, Bardiche, Zakeri
NekoRex (3) - O4rfish, Shadoweh, Dr Rawr
Elieson (2) - Refa, Skypal
O4rfish (1) - BT
Skypal (1) - Elieson

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. 10 minutes left

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #412 on: April 12, 2015, 09:51:55 PM »
FUCK REFA IS OFFLINE ON SKYPE

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #413 on: April 12, 2015, 09:52:32 PM »
What I have against BT: heavily lurks as scum (although is that even a tell in this season of everybody-sucks?), vote positioning LD1, hammer was somewhat suspicious.

What I have against Elie: vote positioning LD1, which is part of Refa's case which itself is also decent but not great.

I think that's everything I have.
##Unvote, Vote: Dr Rawr
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #414 on: April 12, 2015, 09:54:42 PM »
FUCK REFA IS OFFLINE ON SKYPE
Technically, we're not supposed to use outside communications...
I mean, I get the frustration, but this is a game.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #415 on: April 12, 2015, 09:55:13 PM »
I didn't message him, I just checked his status.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #416 on: April 12, 2015, 09:56:20 PM »
Hi Rawr, I see you online.

Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #417 on: April 12, 2015, 09:57:43 PM »
well i mean what do you want me to say =/ its like 5 mins left

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #418 on: April 12, 2015, 10:00:59 PM »
unvote
vote: dr rawr

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #419 on: April 12, 2015, 10:01:32 PM »
fuck you guys i thought pahse ending an hour later