Author Topic: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Game Over (Read 48052 times)

Elieson · « **Reply #270 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:51:57 PM »

##Unvote

I'm still on the fence now and i've got feels that I can't explain that make me feel like we're lynching what's amounting to lazy town

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #271 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:52:53 PM »

In this post I was trying to prod Bard into more direct action, while also disagreeing with Mitsuki's case on him. On rereading his earlier posts, it seems like he was doing well enough as it was.
Today's experiment ... failed.

^^ Does this give context to Oarfish 'giving up'?

I would rather we lynch somebody we found consistently scummy for a large part of the phase than one who was found scummy in the last 8 - 10 hours and hasn't really been around to explain. Lynnching through confusion doesn't sit well with me.

Buuuuuut I'll hammer if we have to.

BT · « **Reply #272 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:53:09 PM »

5-5 right?

(I'm here.)

Refa · « **Reply #273 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:53:42 PM »

Just going to come out and say that I didn't actually believe that Oarfish really scumclaimed, which is why I asked him that question to begin with. I figured as town, he'd be indignant and say something along the lines of "how the fuck is that a scumclaim in any way". As scum, he'd probably try to attack...not me, because he wouldn't be able to counterwagon me, but my argument? I'm...not really sure how to explain the difference, but that's basically what I was looking for. Didn't expect him to ah, completely disappear off the face of the game. Kind of conflicted here because I don't see why he'd have to give up as scum this early (and I'm sure that one of the wagons is scum, but not both), but at the same time I don't really see why he'd just ditch everyone without an explanation as town. Ugh, mafia sucks.

Quote from: SB on April 08, 2015, 09:46:53 PM

He literally implied that he was glad he'd kept up his streak of rolling town. How was it a scumclaim?

...Wait, was that what he meant when he said he was glad he'd kept up his streak? Fuuuuuuuck, scum never says stuff like that. Mreh, just going with this. ##BigPlays ##RefaIsBestMafiaPlayer ##DormioErgoScum

##Unvote
##Vote: Dormio

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #274 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:54:14 PM »

@mod
There's clearly many players and an active desire to end the phase well. Can we please get a 30 minute phase extension?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #275 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:54:27 PM »

Dormio (6) - O4rfish, Zakeri, ActionDan, Sky_Paladin, SB, Refa
O4rfish (4) - Bardiche, Serela, Dormio, BT
Serela (1) - NekoRex
Sky_Paladin (1) - Dr Rawr
Not Voting: Elieson, Mitsuki

You have 6 minutes left in the day. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #276 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:54:46 PM »

no extensions, you guys had 72 hours which is plenty of time

SB · « **Reply #277 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:55:01 PM »

skypal is probably town or scumbuddies with oarfish

SB · « **Reply #278 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:55:17 PM »

*unless he's scumbuddies with oarfish

Mitsuki · « **Reply #279 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:55:25 PM »

I've read Oarfish's posts and I don't see the scumclaim nor the scuminess anymore

##Vote: Dormio

I'm almost 0% sure about anything right now

BT · « **Reply #280 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:56:12 PM »

Blargh 5 minutes. ##Unvote ##Vote Dormio[/b (edit: cuts)

The "can't believe I still rolled town" thing isn't a tell. C'mon.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #281 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:56:46 PM »

HAMMER SHUT UP

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #282 on:** April 08, 2015, 09:58:47 PM »

Dormio (:tenshi:) - O4rfish, Zakeri, ActionDan, Sky_Paladin, SB, Refa, Mitsuki, BT (L-0!)
O4rfish (3) - Bardiche, Serela, Dormio
Serela (1) - NekoRex
Sky_Paladin (1) - Dr Rawr
Not Voting: Elieson

Dormio was put to rest permanently. He was a Vanilla Townie.

It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #283 on:** April 08, 2015, 10:25:10 PM »

Vhaltz replaces Mitsuki.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #284 on:** April 09, 2015, 10:07:20 PM »

Vhaltz subbed to his death. He was a Vanilla Townie.

It is now Day 2. You have ~~72 hours~~ 71 hours and 53 minutes to decide on a lynch. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Vhaltz · « **Reply #285 on:** April 09, 2015, 10:11:34 PM »

Mitsuki · « **Reply #286 on:** April 09, 2015, 10:12:40 PM »

I KNEW IT

O4rfish · « **Reply #287 on:** April 09, 2015, 10:19:59 PM »

I think we might be able to learn something from Mitsuki's death, but it won't be anything definitive or solid.

The only other thing we learned is that Dormio was town. We can do wagon analysis, direct interactions, lack of direct interactions, and I guess that's it.

There's also conspiracy interactions, but I don't even know how to go about reading that successfully.

Not feeling too hopeful about this game, even though I thought I was going to get lynched and ended up surviving.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #288 on:** April 09, 2015, 10:58:32 PM »

I guess you can start by explaining your comment that did look a lot like scum signing out of the game.

Bardiche · « **Reply #289 on:** April 09, 2015, 11:36:13 PM »

##Vote: O4rfish

Good morning. Continuation of the previous day. Not much I want to comment on at this juncture other than receive O4rfish's reaction to this post. His failure to acknowledge it, then claim scum (holy shit people are ignoring it) and deigning to disappear then is, in his own words, the scummiest thing: claiming scum and then lurking.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #290 on:** April 10, 2015, 02:25:09 AM »

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Serela (1) - NekoRex
Sky_Paladin (1) - Dr Rawr
Not Voting: Elieson

Please talk to me about your votes/decision to not be involved with either of the Dormio/Oarfish wagons.

Particularly Eli who was around at phase end, and NNR who seemed to agree with the Dormio wagon even though he didn't vote there.

O4rfish · « **Reply #291 on:** April 10, 2015, 04:48:36 AM »

Bard, it was after that post that I considered myself lynched, and gave up. Not sure where I am supposed to have claimed scum though.

O4rfish · « **Reply #292 on:** April 10, 2015, 06:10:02 AM »

Heh, I tried to sift through a combined ISO of myself and Dormio, but it doesn't even look very defensible.

(BTW that last line of mine meant I wanted to finally roll scum, but rolled town instead. The unbroken streak is a consolation prize)

So, I guess this is my chance to virtually affect the game from beyond the grave, assuming I'm going to be lynched d2 and flip town. Please refrain from quicklynching me at least.
Contributory post to follow soon, hopefully.

O4rfish · « **Reply #293 on:** April 10, 2015, 08:03:10 AM »

Wagon analysis is taking much longer than I thought. Fortunately, I think I've finally figured out how to do it properly.

O4rfish · « **Reply #294 on:** April 10, 2015, 09:13:41 AM »

Of course, what I learned n1 and you will learn n2 (unless you are scum), is that both wagons of Oarfish and Dormio were town. Scum could lynch one or the other as they chose, or even go for the no-lynch. In this case, What Would Scum Do? I assume since someone WAS lynched, that in the end they decided not to try to no-lynch, whether or not they started working towards it or even considered it a possibility.

Recall that my wagon had strong momentum until it stalled out. Let us assume Scum had a hand in this. Let us also assume that Dormio was lynched with the acquiescence of Scum. What would have been their ideal actions during the final hours of the day? I submit to you that they would have done something perhaps like this ...

Ideally, Scum would be on the majority wagon while voicing concern over whether it was truly a Scum wagon or not. Possibly the third scum would be on a different wagon. Then, they would switch to the other wagon, even hammering it at the last minute for extra towncred (from preventing the no-lynch). The entire scumteam would not end up on the final wagon, so the two switching scumvotes would split if the third was already on that wagon.

Of course, this is the IDEAL scum position. In all likeliness, it is not realistic that Scum would play this well.

O4rfish · « **Reply #295 on:** April 10, 2015, 09:19:25 AM »

(This should have accompanied the previous post)

O4rfish · « **Reply #296 on:** April 10, 2015, 09:37:55 AM »

Quote from: O4rfish on April 10, 2015, 09:13:41 AM

Of course, this is the IDEAL scum position. In all likeliness, it is not realistic that Scum would play this well.

However, an intriguing exercise (since we have nothing better to do with the time until I am lynched) is to determine who the ideal third member of the scum team would be, assuming they were already on the wagon which succeeded.
Let's scroll up.

There you go. As a reward for not lynching me yesterday, and as a consolation prize for finding out I am Town when you lynch me tomorrow, you get an Oarfish Special Insane Conspiracy Theory!

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #297 on:** April 10, 2015, 10:34:01 AM »

Actually I missed the end of the last day by about half an hour. I would have lynched Oarfish, tbh, I agree more with bard that claiming scum then leaving when you're on the doorstep of death is kind of highly incriminating.

##Vote: Oarfish

not done rereading yet but this is preliminary and I might not have time to post again for a fair bit since I have to work today.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #298 on:** April 10, 2015, 10:38:05 AM »

Brief train-of-thought post but the Dormio lynch wasn't bad either all things considered, he pretty much didn't exist this game. To be fair though, he didn't quit when the chips were down, he just wasn't around. I guess that's slightly more townie then quitting imo.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #299 on:** April 10, 2015, 10:48:35 AM »

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Huh, phase ends in the morning tomorrow and I need to go out.
I guess I could sheep the O4rfish case, but I think I'd rather see Sky Palladium lynched.
Like I said earlier, I think that Sky Palladium was a little too overexcited about his Serela case and he latched onto some random bs that he came up with and rolled with it.
It's just that Sky Palladium's train of thought is super special and I guess it seemed like a slam dunk case to him even though it just looks stupid to me.
Whatever.

This was Dormio's most town post tbh

I don't know why I continue to insist on talking about Dormio since he's dead when I'm trying to look for scum at day end but these issues keep coming up with me finding nothing redeeming about Oarfish in comparison.