Puzzle & Dragons 19: Forever waiting for Gungho NA edition

[trancehime]

This doesn't work if Gungho messes up Isis and doesn't make her B/G or increases her active cooldown or something else dumb like that

They won't increase AS cooldown, and if they do it will be only be 1 turn higher.

[hyorinryu]

Yeah, not to mention that seeing how forus is B/D, there's no longer a pattern to adhere to.

[Suikama]

Yeah, not to mention that seeing how forus is B/D, there's no longer a pattern to adhere to.

Well I think at least they are giving them new colors.

So that means Awoken Isis is either B/G or B/D

...or B/R which I totally forgot about since I assumed that no recent ult with sphinx meant no B/R but actually it might just be because there's no blue Egyptian boss yet...

...but in that case I'd still need to cover green

...muse pls


On the bright side B/R actually makes the most sense for Isis as a leader because there's nothing else good to cover B/R

With B/R Isis you have Reine for light, Bodin/SchoolgirlIsis? for dark, and the most options actually for green with Muse/U&Y/Berry Dragon/Skuld/etc.

B/R's only good options is Orochi who's active cooldown is too long, although double TPA is nice

[Janitor Morgan]

This was going to be too long to post but then the current wordfilter made it hilarious so I'm posting it anyway. More calculations:

Ocean of Heaven Neptune: needs 786 ATK to OHKO
----level 9 +0 SoD
The Heroes' Hideout Vampire Lord: with one Ultra Gravity, needs 1057 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 67 +0 SoD
----this is also sufficient to 2HKO Highlander

The God-King's Floating Garden Zeus: with four Ultra Gravities, needs 1171 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 92 +0 SoD
----the chimeras on the prior wave can be 2HKOed after two gravities at this point; since you're running four gravities, though, the remaining one is still pretty RNG

Super Metal Dragons Descended: Morning Star can kill a super king outright no matter what level
Tuesday Dungeon Keeper of Flame/Water/Forest (Expert): needs 752 ATK to OHKO
Tuesday Dungeon Keeper of Rainbow (Master): Assuming no gravities:
----needs 1139 ATK (level 85 SoD) to 4HKO
----needs 912 ATK (level 36 SoD) to 5HKO
----needs 761 ATK (level 41 AA) to 6HKO
----obviously if you combo hard enough you can reduce that amount, especially since you'll need to keep up healing
Wednesday Dungeon Ancient Blue Sacred Mask (Legend): with three Ultra Gravities, needs 1186 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 95 +0 SoD
----if you have either Chester you can be skillbind resistant with this setup, but I'd rather use a heartmaker and just ride it out
The Goddess Descended! Great Valkyrie (Legend): with three Ultra Gravities, needs 1174 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 92 +0 SoD
----the demons on the previous wave can be 2HKOed after one gravity at this point
The Thief Descended! Ishikawa Goemon (Legend): after three Ultra Gravities and one Wrath of God, needs 1162 ATK to 2HKO
----since you need Zeus for that strategy, you already meet that requirement
----alternatively, bring a Keeper of Rainbow to help with the bind; if you can whittle him down to half health, then with just the three gravities you need both Lucis to be at least level...32

And probably pretty important as well are skillup dungeons and biweeklies. Just a few examples because this post is getting kind of long:

Mystic Water Dragon - No Wood Antikythera:
----Legend: once it gets to Constellation Blast range, with two Ultra Gravities, needs 778 ATK to 2HKO; with one grav, needs 1107 to 2HKO
----Master: once it gets to Constellation Blast range, with one Ultra Gravity, needs 753 ATK to 2HKO; with no gravs, needs 1074

Flame Dragon Knight - No Dupes (Legend):
--------Flame Spirit Will-O'-Wisp: can be OHKOed by any Luci
--------Scorched Land Dragon Knight, Himiko: assuming the friend is a max-level Rebel Seraph Lucifer with no plusses, when she gets to Burning Yamataikoku range, one Ultra Gravity brings her to guaranteed kill range
------------with no gravity, a max level SoD + said friend will leave her at 28920 HP remaining

EVANGELION Collab The Tenth Angel - Assault Mode (Master): with three Ultra Gravities, two max level SoD leaves it at 96716 HP remaining
----you can stall as long as you need to on wave 3, and your non-gravity sub can be a darkmaker to help finish Zeruel off
----Legend might be doable with three Heras/one Zeus?

[Mr. Sacchi]

Yeah, not to mention that seeing how forus is B/D, there's no longer a pattern to adhere to.

One of his evo mats is Thoth, so I think the pattern of "inherit stuff from the evo mats" still holds.

Of course, how they decide WHAT the monsters are going to inherit I have no clue whatsoever.

[Suikama]

Dang school Luci has a shitton of attack

Guess that makes him better than normal Luci cause his ms is stronger

And on top of that he boosts light so he has stronger Zeus gravities

[O4rfish]

Oh ho, Teruyo will have a leader skill like Valkitty, only farmable.
Active: orbspawn, 4 turns maxskilled instead of Valkitty's delay 1 after 11 turns (or 8 turns with pys)



I can see her being a popular substitute for Osiris. Her awakenings are even similar to his.

[Chaore]

Dang school Luci has a shitton of attack

Guess that makes him better than normal Luci cause his ms is stronger

And on top of that he boosts light so he has stronger Zeus gravities

But not the quicker Hera Gravities. Also around 100 rcv loss is...fairly significant. There's better rcv buffers in light though.

The attack is pretty much a thing though, potentially stronger first turn burst is not something to sniff at.

I was expecting silly awakenings, but then he'd be actually 'good' tm flat out.

I don't know, I think Light might work out for him okay. We'll have to see, it's less silly than I expected, still probably the troll drop of the academy rem like Xmasrem.

[Suikama]

He's also 7 stars, so he'll come out of the rem as 6 stars? Or he doesn't evolve and is straight up 7 stars? Lol

[Chaore]

He's also 7 stars, so he'll come out of the rem as 6 stars? Or he doesn't evolve and is straight up 7 stars? Lol

Likely the latter, I think we've got christmas rem bullshit coming.

[O4rfish]

He's School Council President, so I'm assuming he's the 6* of the REM.  Athena and Isis will almost certainly be 5*
It will be weird though if Gigas is a 5* in the REM.  Will there be silver eggs?  Who will be in them?

Cut by Christ ... oh, that's what that was.  Disappointing if accurate.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Hm. So far I'm not sold yet. Luci getting an MS change and way better ATK to go with it is kind of a slap in the face to the original, even when the new MS has somewhat more potential overall if you pour a ton of work into it. New Luci is cool and all, but still not enough for me to dive headfirst for.

Gigas is.... decent? The higher ATK is pretty cool but taking away 1500 HP and giving him even less RCV is...I dunno, doesn't seem worth it. I guess I'll have to see him in practice first.

As for Hera-Ur Senpai I love her art BUT three enhance awakenings jfc gungho when will you realize that those are trash awakenings and no one really likes them

I  guess my opinion will depend on how good Athena and Isis are.

[Chaore]

Hm. So far I'm not sold yet. Luci getting an MS change and way better ATK to go with it is kind of a slap in the face to the original, even when the new MS has somewhat more potential overall if you pour a ton of work into it. New Luci is cool and all, but still not enough for me to dive headfirst for.

Gigas is.... decent? The higher ATK is pretty cool but taking away 1500 HP and giving him even less RCV is...I dunno, doesn't seem worth it. I guess I'll have to see him in practice first.

As for Hera-Ur Senpai I love her art BUT three enhance awakenings jfc gungho when will you realize that those are trash awakenings and no one really likes them

I  guess my opinion will depend on how good Athena and Isis are.

Consider the fact original gigas basically has the same attack with his awakenings.

yeah.

Invade gigas is kinda crappy actually, but hes a free row heartbreaker.

Again, It's looking like the same bullshit they pulled in December. I wouldn't get very hype.

[trancehime]

Again, It's looking like the same bullshit they pulled in December. I wouldn't get very hype.

except POWER OF WAIFU so people will still cut their wallet open for this. myself included most likely

:colonveeplusalpha:

EDIT:



bam bam motherfucker

[O4rfish]

but at what cost? how much of his original body does he have left, or is it all stored in the canopic jars?

[OverlordChirei]

but at what cost? how much of his original body does he have left, or is it all stored in the canopic jars?

I think judging from his earlier evos that's literally just all armor he's wearing, which means he's pretty strong to be lugging around something that looks heavier than Mjolnir armor from Halo.

Also wow, I am so glad that I am a hoarder and didn't waste Flampy on DQ Hera-Ur. She got a farmable skillup anyway.

[triangles]

It begins again: three runs, three Devilits :fail:
At least I have a 99% fail proof team but ugh.

[commandercool]

It begins again: three runs, three Devilits :fail:
At least I have a 99% fail proof team but ugh.

Having been through that and possibly being about to go through that again, I feel you. Ugh.

Meanwhile, dropped 150 stamina on Friday Dungeon Expert hoping to get, after a fashion, two Dub-Emelits and two Dub-Mythlits. I have zero of either. Literally dropped Dub-Saphilit six times in a row. Guess I should have just been doing Sky Prison so at least I'd have a toss-up between the Mythlits and a Tamadra.

[Dorakyura]

I finished farming! Not quite, but at least Echidna max skilled  :derp:

[trancehime]

THIS HAND OF MINE IS GLOWING WITH AN AWESOME POWER!

ITS BURNING GRIP TELLS ME TO DEFEAT YOU!

TAKE THIS!

MY LOVE, MY ANGER, AND ALL MY SORROW!

S U N B U R S T  K N U C K L E!

[Edible]

This would be appreciated if it had happened for wood or fire, but guess who doesn't have gabriel ;_;

[commandercool]

This would be appreciated if it had happened for wood or fire, but guess who doesn't have gabriel ;_;

Wow.

That's all I got, wow.

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

so I might have discovered an interesting team build completely by accident

Yamato-Takeru/Leilan/Chiyome/???/???/Yamato-Takeru

using Leilan then Chiyome and one of the Takerus on the same turn gets you a full board of fire orbs, which you can then explode for 16x. I guess you can fill in one of the blank slots with an enhancer like Shiva or your other preferred fire subs.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Full boards don't really deal as much damage as you would expect though, certainly not without a bunch of orb enhances and somebody to enhance them after the fact.

Takeru wants to do rows for maximum numbers, so looking for people with rows would be best.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Full boards can be reliable, effective damage when combined with an orb enhance, however-- especially if you have rows in addition.

With enhance I think the full board gets... what, around a 3.5x bonus? And that is in addition to whatever rows you may have. A full board still only counts as one row but it's effective.

I mean, that's my trifruit strategy: Ronia -> Hanzo -> DMeta, gives a fully enhanced dark board killswitch using Pandora leads. It's effective! Maybe not quite as high of potential as three 10-row-enhance rows, but still effective.

[Suikama]

Rofl so Luci is the Bmeta/Santa Kirin huh

Also Invade Gigas looks like he could be a good Goemon sub since he has a row and low RCV

[hyorinryu]

so I might have discovered an interesting team build completely by accident

Yamato-Takeru/Leilan/Chiyome/???/???/Yamato-Takeru

using Leilan then Chiyome and one of the Takerus on the same turn gets you a full board of fire orbs, which you can then explode for 16x. I guess you can fill in one of the blank slots with an enhancer like Shiva or your other preferred fire subs.

You would do more damage using only Leilan and Chiyome, because you could arrange the orbs in a way to get mulitple rows. Looking at that team I suggest looking for a red heartbreaker, like valkyrie or if you're desperate, Gigas. Echidna/Ares  are options too.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

This would be appreciated if it had happened for wood or fire, but guess who doesn't have gabriel ;_;

It's no joke. I just took Michael from SL1 to skillmax using those dungeons in the span and I'm somewhat tempted to do the same for Gabe even though I don't use him.  The Legend difficulty always drops the skillup fully evolved so you honestly don't even need the unevo'd ones. I just fed off 10 unevolved centaurs that I was holding on to just in case.

[Suikama]

okay farming Ifrit is much easier than Castle of Satan since the bosses are pretty much trivial with a delay + poison and I can get Bubpys (although didn't see any this time)

still takes pretty much the whole hour just to use up all my stam + rank up stam so eeh aintnobodygottimeforthat.gif

[OverlordChirei]

okay farming Ifrit is much easier than Castle of Satan since the bosses are pretty much trivial with a delay + poison and I can get Bubpys (although didn't see any this time)

still takes pretty much the whole hour just to use up all my stam + rank up stam so eeh aintnobodygottimeforthat.gif

Then become nobody! It worked for me...  :colonveeplusalpha: