Author Topic: Puzzle & Dragons 19: Forever waiting for Gungho NA edition  (Read 127821 times)

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #270 on: March 31, 2015, 01:39:51 PM »
Grats you have joined the ranks of CATTE MASTER RACE
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Verche's got his uses too,  too bad the skill up dungeon just finished up  :V

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #271 on: March 31, 2015, 01:44:20 PM »
Pulled one more time because why the hell not.

Pull 5: Lumiel

Completely fucking pointless because I don't have Durga (or Kotaro so I could change the green for light for LKali). At least she is the cutest angel.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #272 on: March 31, 2015, 01:48:52 PM »
SO GUESS WHO I JUST PULLED IN THE JP SERVER?



I AM GOING OVER TO THE DARK SIDE

somewhere, horus is crying in a corner

(Also, what IS the current JP godfest? I'll guess it's probably forest gala but I can't even guess what the current godfest is)

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #273 on: March 31, 2015, 01:52:56 PM »
I don't see why Lumiel is pointless.
Lumiel/Byakko/CDD/xxx/xxx/Lumiel has an intense dark burst with Byakko+CDD as long as you get at least four fire orbs :V
It is basically a better Ronia because it's dark-primary and it's not a Sonia. You have other Devils like Pandora and Persephone who otherwise leave water orbs alone.

hell, you can even forgo Byakko and use Lumiel/CDD/Persephone/Pandora/Lu Bu/Lumiel
Lumiel provides orbs for Pandora and CDD to convert, so as long as you get those four fire orbs you can Lube everything up and wreck face.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #274 on: March 31, 2015, 01:59:04 PM »
>Skuld

you're not bodin :fail:

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #275 on: March 31, 2015, 02:20:27 PM »
Pulled one more time because why the hell not.

Pull 5: Lumiel

Completely fucking pointless because I don't have Durga (or Kotaro so I could change the green for light for LKali). At least she is the cutest angel.

Forget Durga. Lead with her instead. Durga sucks :| Lumiel's a tankier Haku while not being conditional.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #276 on: March 31, 2015, 03:03:45 PM »
as strong as awoken Ra is, Juggler still does way more damage lmao

of course Ra has an easier time clearing challenge 10 though because the extra damage isn't even useful and Ra only needs 1 active to clear each floor so you can just steamroll everything with actives, while Juggler's super combo of him + pandora is two actives so you're gonna have to stall

also juggler can't do shit to this
wait no nevermind
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #277 on: March 31, 2015, 03:09:52 PM »
I don't see why Lumiel is pointless.
Lumiel/Byakko/CDD/xxx/xxx/Lumiel has an intense dark burst with Byakko+CDD as long as you get at least four fire orbs :V
It is basically a better Ronia because it's dark-primary and it's not a Sonia. You have other Devils like Pandora and Persephone who otherwise leave water orbs alone.

hell, you can even forgo Byakko and use Lumiel/CDD/Persephone/Pandora/Lu Bu/Lumiel
Lumiel provides orbs for Pandora and CDD to convert, so as long as you get those four fire orbs you can Lube everything up and wreck face.

>better ronia
>because it's not a sonia

We get it you don't like Ronia, you can stop now  :V

The problem with Lumiel is that her active is too spread out. Hell, I rarely if ever get more than 5 dark with Haku's active as it is.

Second, Pandora won't be a devil in NA until like next January as it is, so that doesn't matter at the moment.

Third, there's a severe lack of decent awakenings in there. CDD and Persephone have lousy awakenings, and Lumiel herself lacks rows or tpa to work with despite being unbindable (which is a redeeming feature for sure) . As it is you'd only be looking at 4 rows at the most right now as Haku has 2, Pandora has 1, and Lu Bu has 1. It just lacks the punching power I could get out of just using Pandora as the lead to begin with.

Forget Durga. Lead with her instead. Durga sucks :| Lumiel's a tankier Haku while not being conditional.

This I will agree with. Being tankier is never a bad thing. But I'll not bother with much until she gets an ult/Pandora and Lu Bu get theirs.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #278 on: March 31, 2015, 04:16:26 PM »
There's only one or two non-godfest-exclusive god I even want today, so I'll only roll once or twice.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #279 on: March 31, 2015, 04:48:27 PM »
I don't see an issue with Lumiel creating many orbs. I actually think it'll have a similar output to say, a light heavy Sakuya team. You don't see Sakuya needing much in the way of awoken skills to get anything done, right?

Sakuya -should- be using Apollo/Valkyrie/Verche/Arthur to generate more light orbs, but that's basically it because you can't touch RGB orbs. All in all, that x25 multiplier only means so much when you can only use half the board as your primarily element.

Lumiel might only have 14x at best, but she procs off two dark combos. As long as you have four orbs of any other color, you're basically golden to pull all the other conversions you want. Sure, Lumiel creates a weird array of colors, but Dark devils have the luxury of converting all but fire (and even then you can use Hanzo for that because he still gets x9). That's using three active skills for one huge burst, but devils tend(?) to have acceptable-beefy HP and Lumiel is boosting everyone's RCV anyways.

Hanzo is a 5 CD conversion as usual, that boosts every other member's damage because of his row
Persephone will eventually be an 8 CD double conversion and her lack of awakenings don't matter too much because she creates metric tons of dark orbs.
Panda has much more utility though a weaker active. Still one of only two green>dark devil conversions.
CDD is a last resort option, and I only use him in conjunction with Byakko.

If you really don't like Lumiel's active that much, then pair up with someone who can contribute damage more reliably (like Beelzebub :V). Admittedly, I wish it made light instead of fire so that we could field Gryps Rider in on the conversion train but what can you do?

though I definitely get the Pandora ult taking ten more months before it hits here :c

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #280 on: March 31, 2015, 05:45:27 PM »
I wouldn't even use the Angels on Durga tbh. board changers are too unreliable. If anything, I'd use them on China girls teams with orbchanger they like.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #281 on: March 31, 2015, 06:33:10 PM »
Update on progress; cleared Hera today using a Metatron/Grodin team. I guess that's a milestone. :toot:

Pulled Ruel yesterday; will work fantastically on the (attacker ult) Astaroth team I'm building, or seperately as her own leader (current subs out of what I have available would be ult attacker Astaroth, GZL, Cursed Wyrm and King Baddie). Next up is Two Heroes, which I expect to faceroll with GZL in my D/D Luci attacker team. :V
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #282 on: March 31, 2015, 07:02:34 PM »
It looks like my Verdandi team will have six green orb enhances on it. Is there any benefit to having six, or is five the most that matters? I still don't understand orb enhance I guess.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #283 on: March 31, 2015, 07:08:02 PM »
5 orb enhance awakenings on a team mean all orbs of that color that drop will be enhanced orbs.

Each orb enhance awakening (even 6+) grants an additional 4% damage per orb.  So your Verdandi team with 6 green orb enhances will have all green skyfall (NOT orb changed) orbs be enhanced, and each enhanced green orb will do a total of +30% damage.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #284 on: March 31, 2015, 07:22:46 PM »


Sweet, delicious victory. Though it used Ronia so it doesn't count.

Not a bad haul, even for 99 stamina.

 

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #285 on: March 31, 2015, 07:41:01 PM »
5 orb enhance awakenings on a team mean all orbs of that color that drop will be enhanced orbs.

Each orb enhance awakening (even 6+) grants an additional 4% damage per orb.  So your Verdandi team with 6 green orb enhances will have all green skyfall (NOT orb changed) orbs be enhanced, and each enhanced green orb will do a total of +30% damage.

Okay, cool. Thanks. So it's base 6%, +4% per orb enhance including the first one? Is that right? And how does the +30% damage work with multiple enhanced orbs in one combo? Does the bonus just apply to the bit of damage provided by that orb?
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #286 on: March 31, 2015, 08:08:21 PM »
OH MY GOD

Roll 1 > Bastet
Roll 2 > Liu Bei

How to make a OP green team:
Step 1. Get Good Green leader
Step 2. Put a Liu Bei in it.
Step 3. ???
Step 4. rekt everything

Congrats!!!

5 orb enhance awakenings on a team mean all orbs of that color that drop will be enhanced orbs.

Each orb enhance awakening (even 6+) grants an additional 4% damage per orb.  So your Verdandi team with 6 green orb enhances will have all green skyfall (NOT orb changed) orbs be enhanced, and each enhanced green orb will do a total of +30% damage.

fyi it's an extra of x1.24 on each combo with enhanced orb.
An combo with 1 enhanced orb would do x1.06x1.24=x1.31
An combo with 3 enhanced orb would do x1.18x1.24=x1.46
So it gets better the more enhanced orbs there are in your combo.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #287 on: March 31, 2015, 08:30:39 PM »
Hi everybody. I recently bought myself a new tablet and since I have no idea what other games are worth playing since I basically retired SIF, I decided to give this game another chance. After way too many rerolls I finally got a god: Horus. Looking around it seems that this guy is among the best starters. I don't know how up-to-date the lists are, though, so I felt I better make sure whether this is still true. Better safe than sorry.

Also is there any website (other than padx) that has good guides to read up on?

Thank you.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #288 on: March 31, 2015, 08:38:32 PM »
After way too many rerolls I finally got a god: Horus. Looking around it seems that this guy is among the best starters. I don't know how up-to-date the lists are, though, so I felt I better make sure whether this is still true. Better safe than sorry.

Unless the Meta shifts horribly, Horus will always be one of the best starters, his leader skill teaches how to orb match efficiently and he's good-to-great on mid-to-late game dungeons, and a complete beast in the early game, he just got a new Awoken Uvo in the JP server which only makes him even better for lategame content, although we won't be seeing that for a while in NA.

Also, welcome to the Horus club, I would say "add me" but I always leave my Horus on slot 2 (which you won't have access to until rank 120 iirc) so...

Aside from me, Suikama uses Isis which is basically "easier but weaker" Horus in most circumstances. I don't know who else here uses Horus or other rainbow leaders, though.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 08:40:11 PM by Toyosatomimi No Sacchi »

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #289 on: March 31, 2015, 08:57:59 PM »
puzzle dragons forum is a forum about puzzle dragons

also it would be best to rank up fast, as the window for using friends shortens if the rank disparity is beyond 50.
For starters, just put Horus on your team and wreck face up through the normal dungeons until you hit a temporary wall.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #290 on: March 31, 2015, 09:58:09 PM »
If you want a really really good early horus team, you can make a team of only one color and as little HP as possible, while using an ogre as a leader and someone like amaterasu as a friend leader.

By doing this you can clear Friday Dungeon Expert very easily, and you can make a team ou of horus + dublits which is surprisingly effective early on (plus it lets you get horus practice)

Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #291 on: April 01, 2015, 12:01:52 AM »
Awoken Horus doing c10 this guy's orb matching isnt even that good and he still got the clear

So yeah looks like Femme is pretty much his optimal sub. Covers light, converts hearts, and has double TPA.

Then you need to cover Blue and Green. You have the options of trying to go all mono red with Set + Rozuel, or you can cover B/G in a single sub with Muse or Isis (if she is b/g), or you can use utility god options like Susanoo, Kushi, Bodin (and I guess Urd for the fullboard like in the vid). Even though Horus only boosts Gods and not Devils, you still have a ton of options.


In comparison, if they don't do anything too weird with Awoken Isis, then Reine should be equally good for her. On top of that you have Nut who is an even lower cooldown orbchanger that potentially doesn't remove any colors. Between those two plus dual Isis leads, you never have to stall for actives.

Then you need to cover Red and Dark. Bodin and Orochi are for mono blue. Rodin, DKali and Diza can cover both. And other than that uh depends on exactly what her leader skill boosts but I'm guessing it's God like Horus.


Meanwhile Bastet just has to be mono green lol

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #292 on: April 01, 2015, 12:15:17 AM »
Damn, people are not kidding when they talk about using Lil' DXDQ for S-ranks. Mine is level six and it's working fine. Granted, it's working fine for expert-level dungeons, but for now that's okay by me since we have some. Guess I better level it up and evolve it. Maybe even grab some incidental skillups at some point. And since I'm in need of Tamadras to put my Verdandi team together, now is a great time for all of this to be coming together.

Speaking up Verdandi, I did the math on how much HP and attack it will have once it's finished. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha. The recovery isn't stellar, especially given the huge HP, but it has more attack and more HP than my Athena team, the same number of prongs, and more skillboosts, so it'll probably be my new alt dungeon team at the very least.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #293 on: April 01, 2015, 12:20:52 AM »
I'm managing to get by on expert dungeon S ranks with just GZL + random 1*s.

I don't have much need for tamadras but you can never get enough of them.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #294 on: April 01, 2015, 01:17:11 AM »
So yeah looks like Femme is pretty much his optimal sub. Covers light, converts hearts, and has double TPA.

The best part is like I swore down the line, it's kinda clear they were looking to nerf the valkyries (and by association, liu bei) with heart LS.

Then catstet happened.

Rip gungho, trolled by their own creation's popularity. Again.

Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #295 on: April 01, 2015, 02:06:17 AM »
dont worry they'll probably add something like poison affliction where you take damage for every combo you make, so if you combo without hearts you die :V

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #296 on: April 01, 2015, 02:38:59 AM »
inb4 next descended boss has a preemptive Reversal Shield. "Take 10% of all damage you deal."

JUGGLER THIS NOW WHALES

or literally anyone that isn't luci

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #297 on: April 01, 2015, 02:42:47 AM »
inb4 next descended boss has a preemptive Reversal Shield. "Take 10% of all damage you deal."

JUGGLER THIS NOW WHALES

or literally anyone that isn't luci

Whenever something like this comes along I also kind of appreciate it because Gabriel usually handles it very well. He doesn't really care about poison, or blindness, or skill lock, or resolve, or basically anything but binds, repeated heartbreaking, or GTFO moves.

That said, 10% seems like a bit much. Hell, a 1% damage reflector would still probably be pretty deal-breaking depending on how the boss was set up.
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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #298 on: April 01, 2015, 02:57:15 AM »
Though it used Ronia so it doesn't count.

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Re: Puzzle & Dragons 19: No longer waiting for Awoken Egyptians edition
« Reply #299 on: April 01, 2015, 03:05:04 AM »
Whoa, they drop in 7* form? nevermind
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