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| Colticide:
I feel like an idiot for getting so involved that I appeared in the video shocked me and made me pretty angry. I really wanted to help the project but now I feel like my passion only backfired on me. I'm really sorry to anyone if my involvement hurt you, I really wanted to try to and do good. |
| Maiden Synnae ミ☆:
--- Quote from: Colticide on February 04, 2015, 10:41:20 PM ---I feel like an idiot for getting so involved that I appeared in the video shocked me and made me pretty angry. I really wanted to help the project but now I feel like my passion only backfired on me. I'm really sorry to anyone if my involvement hurt you, I really wanted to try to and do good. --- End quote --- I trust you had good intentions, Colticide. You seemed to be pretty chill from what I could see when I was still discussing about stuff on that topic. Now, I can't speak for how the others feel about you, but hopefully all of this won't impact negatively on your image. |
| helvetica:
--- Quote from: Colticide on February 04, 2015, 10:41:20 PM ---I feel like an idiot for getting so involved that I appeared in the video shocked me and made me pretty angry. I really wanted to help the project but now I feel like my passion only backfired on me. I'm really sorry to anyone if my involvement hurt you, I really wanted to try to and do good. --- End quote --- Everyone did from what I can tell. I've only been watching from the sidelines but the feeling I got from everyone involved is that everyone wanted to help him do the right thing. There was legit excitement for the project and he squandered it by going on a tirade about copyright and how ZUN can't tell him what to do with Touhou and other bizarre conspiracy theories (to the point of even trying to edit Wikipedia to fabricate information to support his claims). I cut the cord when he decided to start burning bridges by digging up personal info on people involved in some vain attempt to prove a conspiracy that his game was being crushed because Touhou was gonna go commercial or some nonsense. |
| FLASH:
well this is all just sad; some people are just like that tough, all you can do with them by the end is let them obstinately steer their ship into the reefs while you get to the lifeboats :( it's whatever though, i'm sure the western fandom in general know they are a minority; and for the people from this forum that were involved, everyone here know you all are more trustworthy than him, especially in regards to his behaviour. ;) what i'm really curious about is, have there been any official comments from Team Shanghai Alice on this (other than forcing the closure of the Crowdfunding)? how commonly does this happen that ZUN actually does Crackdown on a fan project like this for not following his guidelines? not often i guess cause it's one of the first tme i hear of something like this. Because one thing that do worry me is that TSA, and the Japanese side of the fandom are probably not aware of all this internal conflict and intricacies within the project, and may get bad ideas about MOTC, or the western Fandom in general from this. Something that might be worth doing is sending an apology letter to Zun on behalf of everybody involved...? even if it was mostly FromSoySauce's fault, we all know that, doesn't matter. Just apologise on behalf of the whole western fandom: if only to show him this is not what the majority of us wanted. i dunno, just throwing that out there. :ohdear: |
| helvetica:
--- Quote from: FLASH on February 04, 2015, 10:59:24 PM ---what i'm really curious about is, have there been any official comments from Team Shanghai Alice on this (other than forcing the closure of the Crowdfunding)? how commonly does this happen that ZUN actually does Crackdown on a fan project like this for not following his guidelines? not often i guess cause it's one of the first tme i hear of something like this. --- End quote --- Not that I'm aware of, but if I recall correctly ZUN never had official fangame guidelines until very recently. The only other crackdown I can think of was the White Canvas incident where they were selling commercialized comics and other Touhou memorabilia without permission. --- Quote ---Because one thing that do worry me is that TSA, and the Japanese side of the fandom are probably not aware of all this internal conflict and intricacies within the project, and may get bad ideas about MOTC, or the western Fandom in general from this. Something that might be worth doing is sending an apology letter to Zun on behalf of everybody involved...? even if it was mostly FromSoySauce's fault, we all know that, doesn't matter. Just apologise on behalf of the whole western fandom: if only to show him this is not what the majority of us wanted. i dunno, just throwing that out there. :ohdear: --- End quote --- I wouldn't worry too much about it. Our contact with TSA has been notified of the current state of the mess and I doubt ZUN isn't going to take it personally. I'm more concerned about the blatant disregard for ZUN's wishes on the matter, but thankfully everyone seemed to be respectful of it even if FSS was refusing to play nice. |
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