Author Topic: Draft Mafia - Game Over (Read 67679 times)

Bardiche · « **Reply #240 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:22:21 PM »

~Magic~

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Mitsuki · « **Reply #241 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:23:24 PM »

Eh, if what Bardiche brings up about Zakeri being the rolecop is real Zakeri should just give up and claim scum, so that we can end this game already with no more pain

Bardiche · « **Reply #242 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:25:54 PM »

There's also the possibility my neighbour is Scum with Rawr and claimed a Track result on Rawr to me for MASSIVE TOWN CREDIT!! and afterwards be coy and lie about being my neighbour for the magic three-way LYLO with SkyPal being the swingvote and getting tricked.

Bardiche · « **Reply #243 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:26:12 PM »

I WOULD NOT BE ME IF I WASN'T RIDICULOUSLY PARANOID

Bardiche · « **Reply #244 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:27:00 PM »

But yeah I kinda doubt that's the case so Zak's very likely the last Scum, should claim and we can end this game and go back to posting about cute kittens.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #245 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:28:04 PM »

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wait for it.....

Bardiche · « **Reply #246 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:40:05 PM »

Just tell Zak to go surrender, we're on to his games.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #247 on:** February 08, 2015, 11:40:59 PM »

yea sure let me go phone him. i have him on speed dial

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #248 on:** February 09, 2015, 03:18:12 AM »

I openly surrender my position.
does this count?

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #249 on:** February 09, 2015, 03:19:10 AM »

Also, the reason why I'm dissuading a town read on Shadoweh is because I don't think it's possible to have a town read on her at the time you made the read. Even Gut reasons have an explanation if you dig hard enough, but I don't think there is any explanation possible.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #250 on:** February 09, 2015, 08:23:59 AM »

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##Vote: Dr. Rawr no reason not to.

Raikaria · « **Reply #251 on:** February 09, 2015, 09:47:24 AM »

I come back and apparently things are solved.

I don't have much to add on the matter; because I am fairly confident that Bard's Tracker claim is legitimate; after all; Tracker is the role I wanted but did not get [I am a Vanilla]; and we were tied. So I have every reason to believe a tracker claim.

Not gonna vote yet because I *think* Rawr is L-1?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #252 on:** February 09, 2015, 11:23:34 AM »

Quote from: Just on February 08, 2015, 10:45:46 PM

I'm voting the one I hate the most and you guys should do the same. When part of the players have deigned not to even bother with opinions (Shadoweh+Raikaria), and the other part deigns to live in vacuum and go all "lalala~" and pretend there isn't a Day 2 (Zakeri, DrRawr), it becomes difficult to decide one way or the other.

Hey, DrRawr, claim with what action you targeted ActionDan last night, kthx.

Sorry, I thought today just looked really obviously between Zak and Rawr and Rawr was posting 10x worse then Zak, also lulz. Also apparently I can wait until there's a flip to actually do some rereading. (I'm sorry that apparently saying 'yes i want in i have some free time' is the symbol to make seventeen people swamp me overnight)

Zakky-chan are you suggesting that you can't get a townread off of me for just one post, geez. That's pretty weird for you to say actually since you usually get a good townread when I post my train of thoughts. I'm kind of iffy on this just being open and shut based on a scumslip thought, but I'm pretty sure we'll get another result tonight to go off of so.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #253 on:** February 09, 2015, 11:26:06 AM »

Eh, does this mean Zakeri is not scum or what?

Anyways Rawr is at L-2, but he clearly wants to self-hammer so let's wait a little more to see if someone has something to say about this game before voting him. Raikaria, will you be around near deadline so that you can place a vote? I will, so we will only need one more vote to hammer this maflord.

Bardiche · « **Reply #254 on:** February 09, 2015, 12:45:09 PM »

##Vote: DrRawr

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #255 on:** February 09, 2015, 01:04:15 PM »

##Vote: Dr Rawr

SB · « **Reply #256 on:** February 09, 2015, 05:42:58 PM »

That's hammer. Only 4 and a half hours late!

Dr Rawr, Mafia Goon, was lynched Day 2.

It is now Night 2. Deadline is in 24 hours.

SB · « **Reply #257 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:35:05 PM »

I'm starting the phase slightly early because of distractions.

Nobody died last night.

It is now Day 3. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. You have 72 hours to decide on a lynch.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #258 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:44:09 PM »

I was going to suggest massclaiming but I'm not sure it's a good idea anymore since nobody died. Thoughts on the matter, guys?

##Vote: Raikaria

To be honest I'm not sure who out of Zakeri and Raikaria is scum, but I feel slightly stronger about this. "Why Raikaria?" I've realised that my townread wasn't strong, and upon rereading there have been things about him that I've found scummy.

D2 he's been busy. I've also been going to cons while in mafia games and it's awful, so I get that he couldn't say much. However, I don't like the usage Raikaria made of the time he had. Instead of giving his thoughts on Bardiche, who was his D1 main suspicion, he proceeds to to justify his contribution on the Dormio lynch, not once but twice, when Shadoweh comments on it. Note that she wasn't blaming anyone, she just mentioned it.

"Maybe he still thought the same about Bardiche" no way, otherwise he'd at least have voted for him. I don't like how Raikaria suddenly forgets about Bardiche when the latter is not a lynch candidate anymore.
Also, I feel that town would be more motivated to post about their reads if they had some time to post and that scum would try to defend themselves when nobody is blaming them, simply because they know they are guilty.

Quote from: Raikaria on February 07, 2015, 07:20:42 AM

I basically echo the points made about Rawr; but I'm not going to vote him now because he's got a fair few votes and I will literally be unable to move my vote for 24 hours after this point because IRL stuff I have had arranged before I even signed up to this game.

I feel like this is too much of a justification not to vote Rawr. Sure, Rawr was at L-2 and I get that some people don't like to leave players at L-1, but this comes across as self-conscious.

In addition, regarding Rawr; he defended Raikaria a couple of times, when Raikaria was a wagon, saying he found him townie. I know that Rawr said Zakeri was town as well but Zakeri was under no pressure by then, so I'm inclined to think that the Raikaria defense is the one that's telling.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #259 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:01:47 PM »

I feel like the game right now is between Me, Raikaria, and Mitsuki.

I'm not going to make up reasons why I should be lynched because I shouldn't.

I quickly reviewed and Raikaria is my biggest suspect because He's been making use of all of his v/la excuses to make rather unhelpful comments and not voting. At all. Most likely candidate from my pov.
Mitsuki on the other hand does get some suspect points. She spent the entire time going after me while keeping her suspicion of Rawr on the backburner in case it turns up. She sort of hangs back and lets others pursue Rawr yesterday while pushing the case on me.

##Vote: Raikaria

I think we are approaching the point where claims will start to benefit town greatly, but I don't have enough to say for certain it can.

Bardiche · « **Reply #260 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:36:14 PM »

##Vote: Zakeri

Completely lacklustre scumhunting. I outlined in the neighbourhood how I feel his posts are empty and dissected them mostly, but I'll re-iterate it here for those who're not with the Neighbourhood Think Tank:

Zakeri's posts (you can go ISO him) for the most part contain a lot of fluff. If you take this post, for example, but he starts out with being wishy-washy about me for no reason whatsoever, makes an off-hand comment about Dormio he doesn't follow up on, invites rolespec by asking how role priority affects role picks (seriously that's useless garbage discussion), and explains the factional kill is, in fact, the factional kill.

What does this post add much? Very little in the way of actual scumhunting. The previous post at least makes clear he thinks Raikaria is scummiest (which he follows up immediately with "feel better about Raikaria"; why weaken your own vote??), but the post preceding that has more of the same, where you can basically distill the following things:

1) Zakeri agreed with Mitsuki and then stopped doing so after concluding Sky couldn't possibly not have known scum could communicate.
2) Sky posted useless stuff.
3) RPS is a null tell.

And then the bit on Raikaria using bullshit. Seriously, where's case-making? I don't like his posts at all, because they follow a theme of excessive talk about the setup and very little content dedicated to hunting scum.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #261 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:40:27 PM »

Oh by the way Zakeri, what did you mean when you said the fragment about Bard and Shadoweh having private times? Also, what do you think of Shadoweh?

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #262 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:50:51 PM »

I thought they were the scumteam.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #263 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:51:34 PM »

Also my feelings on Shadoweh are complicated, but I'm sure she'll swoop in and sort that out somehow.

Bardiche · « **Reply #264 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:53:07 PM »

So you mention neither Shadoweh nor CF7 at any point, and then elevate them out of nowhere to "scum team with Bard", without ever making that clear outside of the extremely vague "I think Shadoweh and Bard are having private times"?

Seems legit.

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Bardiche · « **Reply #265 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:53:18 PM »

I mean LOL.

##VOTE: Zakeri

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #266 on:** February 10, 2015, 08:00:03 PM »

I was just reading through the thread and saw Shadoweh replace in and then got bad memories of how I was left behind so often. Oh my dear Shadoweh~ :ohdear:

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #267 on:** February 10, 2015, 08:03:02 PM »

also, even though I've discounted her as the core circle of suspect, I've no indication of her alignment one way or the other. Depending on things She might actually take Mitsuki's place on the circle list of suspects.

Bardiche · « **Reply #268 on:** February 10, 2015, 08:33:50 PM »

At least you're trying to make us doubt, so commendation for that.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #269 on:** February 10, 2015, 08:55:17 PM »

I don't really have a choice. I would give up, but I can't do that since giving up wouldn't end the game.