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※How to make Touhou derived work - Doujin & ZUN's Touhou guidelines

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Moogs Parfait:

I'm not sure if I answered your question or not?

Edit: Snip.  Will readd later maybe after checking sources

Daya:


--- Quote from: Moogs Parfait on January 27, 2015, 04:50:59 PM ---I'm not sure if I answered your question or not?

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Yeah I presume commissioned privately used / for later freely shared two-dimensional art is kosher.

... but of other forms of media for Touhou Project fanworks (animations, games, music) -- would other commissioned work done in the same manner as two-dimensional art fall under the normal environment of a commission (such as how the Sistine Chapel's ceiling was commissioned by Pope Julius II by Michelangelo; amount of involvement in the commmissioner / patronage is of course presumingly substantial).

Environment of a commission is normal: statement it is not 'work for hire', that it is for commission, composer/writer/artist/whatever retains the rights to the work, the normal guidelines for fanworks of ZUN is otherwise met as if the patron/commissioner made it themselves, etc.

The question extends to almost all fanworks to kind of cover just about every possible imaginable situation for a person to commission a work (Hell why not, a fresco of Touhou fanwork on one's ceiling lol!).

I could imagine this being used for those that might be ... ballin' (but if you have that kind of money to completely commission a work ... well ... don't think we have 1%/0.5%'ers in MotK? Bueller? Bueller?). But realistically, I'd expect the most common would be 2d/3d art and music arrangements.

Edit: Oh you researching lol. okay. ^^;

Moogs Parfait:

I'm actually working at my day job and taking care of my kid (I work from home half the week)  I don't really know the answer to things besides 2D art, I was hoping someone else knew.  I can look into it later but it'll be several hours/possibly a day

Calamity:


--- Quote from: Drake on January 27, 2015, 12:48:16 PM ----snip-
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I see, that pretty much answers my question. Kiefmaster99(I can only see their reply when I am composing a reply for some reason) pointed out the answer was already in the guidelines about general commissions.

--- Quote ---Summary of Blog Update:
Reproductions of individual commissions are explicitly exempted from the restrictions on commercial work (i.e. if someone commissions you to do something, it?s okay to then sell reproductions of it in limited quantities as a doujin work)
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So much for my reading comprehension :V I suppose this means commissions for things like an Itasha are all fine and dandy.

Shade_:


--- Quote from: Drake on January 27, 2015, 04:48:25 AM ---To answer more directly, no, this is not particularly vague at all. First and foremost, Danmaku!! is at the very basics a free to play printable card game. TTS is on Steam, but Danmaku!! is not related to Steam in any capacity. TTS is a sandbox game and has nothing to do with any user-made content.

If you weren't aware on how importing in TTS works, you literally just have an image of the cards to import.

Please take further discussion about Danmaku!! to its own thread.

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So, in answer to our own question I looked up and it does indeed seem to be that you cannot engage in multilayer online without the incorporation of Steam (Correct me if I am wrong, if indeed steam is not necessary, but it appears you do need at least a Steam ID if I am not mistaken). This would prove that Drake's statement "TTS is on Steam, but Danmaku!! is not related to Steam in any capacity." is simply wrong because if you need Steam at all, then it is "related" in some way, shape, or form.

In the email I got, it strictly said that steam, Amazon, and Wii-U are "Not allowed" by ZUN. He did not state any specification or exceptions.

Now in this case, if what you guys say is true, and this in fact IS not infringing on the guidelines. Then it should be specifically added to the guidelines that while Steam is not allowed as a way of distributing your game. It can be used as a platform to connect for multilayer Touhou games.

If this is truly allowed, I think we should flush out the specifics so that we can inform other Touhou games their options when implementing multilayer on steam.

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