Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 - 14F (Read 219679 times)

Validon98 · « **Reply #540 on:** May 04, 2015, 04:08:47 PM »

Quote from: LunaWillow on May 04, 2015, 01:54:24 PM

Ame-no-Marukamo is Tasouken!

And both in turn are reference to the Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi. Which was also referenced in Riverbed Soul Saver. Funny how that works out. :V

LunaWillow · « **Reply #541 on:** May 05, 2015, 04:57:17 PM »

I recruited Byakuren! Woho!

Monothemeerp · « **Reply #542 on:** May 06, 2015, 04:39:42 AM »

Quote from: jaxter0987 on May 02, 2015, 02:58:23 PM

I want to talk more about how Orin could potentially perma Shock the boss but I never used that strategy when I fought the boss. I went with a damage race.

I've used Orin for that fight and it worked perfectly fine. I had her equipped with the SHK Main equip and had her on Magician for MP regen so she could just infinitely spam Cat's Walk. There might be a better approach to it but this one worked out just fine.

Spiffspoo · « **Reply #543 on:** May 08, 2015, 01:28:48 AM »

Quote from: LunaWillow on May 05, 2015, 04:57:17 PM

I recruited Byakuren! Woho!

Time for Buffs!

qazmlpok · « **Reply #544 on:** May 09, 2015, 03:00:17 PM »

Reitaisai opens in 10 hours. I think he's talking about the plus disk on his twitter, but I can't tell if he's planning on releasing it or not.

I think google translate mentioned "crash bug" and "save data issue", so I'm guessing not, though.

Xarizzar · « **Reply #545 on:** May 09, 2015, 06:12:29 PM »

I checked, and it seems like the poor guy is really debating some things. From what I could understand on a later tweet, some bugs are "not important" and "there will be time for the rest of them". Although he seems really stressed.

EDIT:
From his twitter:
"東方の迷宮2体験版、完売致しました！"
"Labyrinth of Touhou 2 trial versions, sold out!"

He then apologizes for not producing more copies, I believe?

Fishin · « **Reply #546 on:** May 10, 2015, 06:47:16 AM »

Going by his tweets it looks like he released a trial for the expansion. He mentions planned save data compatibility as well.

Kinda disappointed it's not the real deal but better than releasing a broken game. If I'm remembering correctly I think Labyrinth 2 was originally kinda messy when it first came out, with a bunch of animations missing and several abilities not working (and I think some of the postgame stuff not implemented too), though it's thankfully all patched now.

Xarizzar · « **Reply #547 on:** May 10, 2015, 07:09:57 AM »

Even if it's broken, it'd be fine by my book. The patches are free, unlike most games of the current generation. Either way, I'm happy we got something.

WenYang · « **Reply #548 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:33:40 AM »

Has there been any more news about the expansion's trial?

qazmlpok · « **Reply #549 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:08:16 PM »

It exists, in some form. That's all I know. Still nothing on the site. If he posts a patch, I can look at the exe and probably find out what characters were added. but I don't even know if this is really just a trial or if it's just incomplete and in need of patches, so he's calling it like a trial.

Validon98 · « **Reply #550 on:** May 12, 2015, 07:30:07 PM »

I've been wondering what's up with the expansion trial myself, but I've seen little to any news on it other than what's been said on here. In any case, hopefully there's some more news, or at least like some sort of gameplay footage showing off what's new.

Thata no Guykoro · « **Reply #551 on:** May 12, 2015, 08:27:23 PM »

I was searching around to find some news myself, and I found a Japanese thread with someone (ID:xQpla2uA0) who apparently got their hands on the trial (which does appear to be a trial). They've made some comments about what's added, but since all I have is Google Translate I'll let someone actually able to read it figure out what's been added.

RegalStar · « **Reply #552 on:** May 12, 2015, 09:03:39 PM »

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ケースにマミゾウと神子確認。フロアイベントでこころのお面とこいし確認。
蓮子達まで仲間にしてないと途中で進めなくなる。
新層雑魚の強さは大体16階追加フロア+α程。
追加スペルは咲夜、勇儀、聖、文しか確認してないが無し。
装備ページはメインは3ページ、サブと特殊アイテムは全9ページに増加。
メイン装備作成はまだ不可能。あのさぁ?
基礎値上昇アイテム追加。その値のドーピング終了したキャラが使用可能。
推奨レベル356と434の敵確認。条件的に体験版だと多分会えない。
サブクラス追加。上位職っぽいけど習得不可。
製品版へのデータ引き継ぎは多分可能、出来なかったらゴメンとの事。

確認出来たバグ
こーりんのスキル習得欄開くと落ちる。
追加フロア2Fのスイッチが機能していない。

On the case Mamizou and Miko are confirmed. From floor events Kokoro and Koishi are confirmed.
(Not sure) There are no new content until Renko/Maribel joining.
(Not sure) Confirmed there are no extra spells for Sakuya, Yuugi, Hijiri and Aya (or maybe it means there are no extra spells outside for those characters?)
Equipments now have 3 pages for Main and 9 pages for both Sub and Special items added together.
Main equipment creation is still impossible.
There are additional base value boosting items. (No idea what second part of the sentence means)
Confirmed enemy icons with recommended level of 356 and 434. Since this is a trial, they probably can't be fought yet.
There are additional subclassses. They seem to be more advanced but can't be learned yet.
It's likely that full version will allow data carryover, but that can't be done yet.

Confirmed bugs:
Rinnosuke's skill window is bugged somehow.
The switch on 2F Extra is not functional.

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追加情報
Wikiと比較したが48人全員追加スキル無し、こーりんも多分無い
素材は全5ページ、1ページ増えた
実績は104まで
敵図鑑には追加敵はちゃんと登録される

Comparing with the wiki, there are no additional skills for any of the 48, Rinnosuke probably included.
Materials now have 5 pages, 1 more than before.
Achievements go up to 104
Bestiary is registering new enemies normally.

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(A few leaked new skill info from Rinnosuke skill window bug)
全ての攻撃に全能力微低下と全ての回復に全能力微上昇
自身のHPに反比例してダメージボーナス
ターンが回ってくるだけでHP回復
他の前衛キャラに防御無視効果25%付与
50%の確率で敵の防御と精神低いほうでダメージ計算

All attacking spells cause slight debuff to all stats, and all healing spells cause slight buff to all stats
Damage bonus inverse proportional to self's HP
HP recovery when getting a turn
Grants 25% defense piercing to other frontliners
50% chance to calculate damage as if targets' DEF and MND ar elowered

DarkAtma · « **Reply #553 on:** May 14, 2015, 07:26:43 PM »

i have been wondering, on LoT1 the guardian theme music, from what touhou song is that a remix of? or its a completely original theme

Validon98 · « **Reply #554 on:** May 14, 2015, 11:57:13 PM »

It depends. I know one of them is a remix of Scatter About from the Etrian Odyssey games, but you're probably talking about the second boss theme from the Special Disk collection, which AFAIK was composed for the game.

Shadow1176 · « **Reply #555 on:** May 15, 2015, 01:04:51 AM »

I'm glad that the Plus Disc is really going to be coming out. But I have a few questions.

How would data transfer work? Would it be like copying NGD files? Or something else entirely?

Also, would anybody happen to know where the locations of all the Jewels of Awakening are? I'm missing one, but I have no idea as to where it is. I think that it might be one of the higher floors, but I'm not certain. Is there any way to ascertain each location?

Spiffspoo · « **Reply #556 on:** May 15, 2015, 02:45:10 AM »

Quote from: Shadow1176 on May 15, 2015, 01:04:51 AM

I'm glad that the Plus Disc is really going to be coming out. But I have a few questions.

How would data transfer work? Would it be like copying NGD files? Or something else entirely?

Also, would anybody happen to know where the locations of all the Jewels of Awakening are? I'm missing one, but I have no idea as to where it is. I think that it might be one of the higher floors, but I'm not certain. Is there any way to ascertain each location?

Just go through each floor and look at the map for treasures.
You should be getting all of them anyways :3

This might help also, but it is all in moon runes.
http://www54.atwiki.jp/thlabyroth2/pages/154.html#id_09fb5676

DarkAtma · « **Reply #557 on:** May 15, 2015, 03:52:17 PM »

Quote from: Validon98 on May 14, 2015, 11:57:13 PM

It depends. I know one of them is a remix of Scatter About from the Etrian Odyssey games, but you're probably talking about the second boss theme from the Special Disk collection, which AFAIK was composed for the game.

Talking about this one theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvgHgxfYIjk

I found a similar one on koumajou densetsu called scarlet tears, but thats about it (Has some pieces of that song)

Validon98 · « **Reply #558 on:** May 15, 2015, 05:49:36 PM »

That theme is original as far as I know. It does sound like it was composed by one of the composers for Defiant of Shrine Maiden, and the person who did some of the remixes of OUT in GoS and other games.

LunaWillow · « **Reply #559 on:** May 16, 2015, 07:23:00 PM »

Today, I defeated Azure Giant, Yuyuko, Yuuka (PAIN OF MY EXISTANCE. Reminds me of that ungodly awful Mokou fight. I HATE bossess that can heal themselves, and half of postgame bossess have regeneration on...) and Yukari! Thus, I can move on to the dark floors. I'm glad this temperature puzzle is over. I still haven't collected some equipment on floor 13 because of that.

yoshicookiezeus · « **Reply #560 on:** May 16, 2015, 09:01:28 PM »

All the talk about the plus disk made me remember that I never actually beat the postgame of the second game, so since I lost my save file a while back I decided to replay the game from the start. Gotten up to floor 5, and things have been going relatively smoothly so far, with the exception of the Komachi fight that I kind of completely forgot about. Ended up beating her on my third attempt with only Rumia and Cirno left, after getting Minoriko DTH'd by Narrow Confines of Avaci halfway through the fight and switching to full on damage race mode. Fighting someone with a multi-target DTH attack is kind of painful when you only have a single piece of equipment that protects against it. (and Youmu needed that to consistently tank the single-target moves, so Minoriko was kind of stuck with her natural zero DTH resist)

Next up is what I'm fairly certain is the Mokou battle, which I vaguely remember being somewhat of a thing. Let's see how this goes.

And I'm still not entirely certain which of the two games I actually prefer. The second one definitely improves the gameplay and character balance, but I think that the first one has some of the more interesting floor designs and boss battles.

e: Mokou and Hina both down on the first attempt. Mokou would have gone a lot worse if Wriggle hadn't dodge Fujiyama Volcano; I kind of completely forgot that there isn't a pause before it after she resurrects. Alice was being kind of a pain since I didn't have any reliable way of quickly killing the physical dolls, but she still went down after five or so tries.

DarkAtma · « **Reply #561 on:** May 18, 2015, 08:55:42 PM »

I am the only one that thinks maribel was harder and more epic than ame-no-Murakumo? Especially when she goes V2 with those wings and summons YHVH,Desire eater feels more like the final boss, looks like a being of pure evil and menacing

ZXNova · « **Reply #562 on:** May 18, 2015, 09:15:20 PM »

This news on LoT2 is really something. HYPE FOR LOT2 PLUS DISK

Shadow1176 · « **Reply #563 on:** May 18, 2015, 10:55:18 PM »

Quote from: ZXNova on May 18, 2015, 09:15:20 PM

This news on LoT2 is really something. HYPE FOR LOT2 PLUS DISK

All aboard the hype train! I'm ready with a platoon of level 250s! Are you guys ready for the Plus Disc? :3

DarkAtma · « **Reply #564 on:** May 18, 2015, 11:55:58 PM »

Quote from: Shadow1176 on May 18, 2015, 10:55:18 PM

All aboard the hype train! I'm ready with a platoon of level 250s! Are you guys ready for the Plus Disc? :3

If that info about 10 sub-equip and 3 Main Equips per character its true, isnt that abit......overkill? :V, If thats TRUE then i needed to start farming all the 20F gear PRONTO

Spiffspoo · « **Reply #565 on:** May 19, 2015, 12:59:52 AM »

Quote from: DarkAtma on May 18, 2015, 08:55:42 PM

I am the only one that thinks maribel was harder and more epic than ame-no-Murakumo? Especially when she goes V2 with those wings and summons YHVH,Desire eater feels more like the final boss, looks like a being of pure evil and menacing

V1 Ame no Murakumo was harder than V1 Maribel, but V2 Maribel was WAY harder than V2 of the sword.

Shadow1176 · « **Reply #566 on:** May 19, 2015, 01:39:21 AM »

Quote from: DarkAtma on May 18, 2015, 11:55:58 PM

If that info about 10 sub-equip and 3 Main Equips per character its true, isnt that abit......overkill? :V, If thats TRUE then i needed to start farming all the 20F gear PRONTO

Wait, it says that? Whelp, I got every single achievement already so I've got plenty of page 6 equipment, but I'll need to find some more. Back to farming extra areas it is then. Actually, now that I think about it, I have enough page 6 equipment for my entire active party of 12 to use that equipment solely... but I'll need more then. And since 12 X 10 is 120, that means that I'm going to need 120 pieces of page 6 equipment. This is going to be a long few hours, even with my item finding team... but if worst comes to worst, I've still got a few dozen pieces of equipment from 20F. Even so, I gotta be ready right when the Plus Disc is released to fill up my entire active party with Page 6 equipment~ :3

DarkAtma · « **Reply #567 on:** May 19, 2015, 01:46:20 AM »

Quote from: RegalStar on May 12, 2015, 09:03:39 PM

Equipments now have 3 pages for Main and 9 pages for Sub.
Main equipment creation is still impossible.
There are additional base value boosting items. (No idea what second part of the sentence means)
Confirmed enemy icons with recommended level of 356 and 434. Since this is a trial, they probably can't be fought yet.
There are additional subclassses. They seem to be more advanced but can't be learned yet.

Here, but what could be to stupid strong that would require such gear and high levels?

EDIT
My BIG bad, i misinterpreted the sentence,It means more items will be added to the game :derp:
We got 2 pages of Main equip and 6 pages of sub-equips that means with plus disk we will have 1/3 more items than before

Big derp on my part

Xarizzar · « **Reply #568 on:** May 19, 2015, 02:28:18 AM »

Very happy to see people hyped for the game.

I may or may not have some news from his Twitter. He seems to have found the source of some bug and is working to resolve it.

Original tweet:
" バグの尻尾をつかんだと思ったけどそうでもなかった "

Or this could be something completely unrelated. Sorry if that's the case, I cannot read Japanese very well. If anyone would care to prove me right...

Shadow1176 · « **Reply #569 on:** May 19, 2015, 04:14:26 AM »

Aw, I was hoping that I misinterpreted the article wrong so that we could have more sub and main equipment on. Oh well. I suppose that means that I'll just farm a bit less to ensure that I have the best equipment possible.

Is it strange that I have Momiji, Suika, Reimu, and Marisa as my alpha team for both exploration and boss fights? For some reason this team has carried me from the time I got Suika to the end of post game, and even before I recruited Suika I still had those three as part of team alpha.

Other then that, I still maintain a full Team Nine and a third squad that is situational. Squad three always has Rinnosuke, but the others change quite often.