Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 2 - 14F (Read 219679 times)

qazmlpok · « **Reply #510 on:** April 12, 2015, 02:07:48 AM »

There's always the 12x XP approach.

On a related note, did anyone ever find a way to do that in cheat engine? Might have just been for the first game but I think I recall someone mentioning they did it for such a run. Might've been 4x for no-backrow or something.

Pesco · « **Reply #511 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:30:54 PM »

Been working so I haven't had time to play this since forever. Otherwise I would try and figure out the 12x XP.

Spiffspoo · « **Reply #512 on:** April 15, 2015, 12:50:19 AM »

Quote from: qazmlpok on April 12, 2015, 02:07:48 AM

There's always the 12x XP approach.

On a related note, did anyone ever find a way to do that in cheat engine? Might have just been for the first game but I think I recall someone mentioning they did it for such a run. Might've been 4x for no-backrow or something.

I just gave my characters massive amounts of XP and SP with cheat engine at the end of the game to see how broken I could get it.
Didn't need to fight at all.

Starxsword · « **Reply #513 on:** April 15, 2015, 08:56:42 AM »

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TL:DR: Probably better to just throw the other characters in just to get past 6F Tenshi. The grind isn't probably not worth all the time spent.

HP spec Youmu can tank Tenshi without grinding.

Terminal Velocity · « **Reply #514 on:** April 16, 2015, 12:50:28 PM »

Finally managed to get past 6F Tenshi. Library levels: 65lv. HP and DEF, 50lv. SPD. After experimenting with different strats I just decided to screw DEF and went for full HP build.

DarkAtma · « **Reply #515 on:** April 16, 2015, 04:05:10 PM »

I just hope it doesnt end like those FF4 solo cecil runs where the advancing wall is just unbeatable solo :V

Genericname · « **Reply #516 on:** April 22, 2015, 05:56:59 PM »

Quote from: qazmlpok on April 12, 2015, 02:07:48 AM

There's always the 12x XP approach.

On a related note, did anyone ever find a way to do that in cheat engine? Might have just been for the first game but I think I recall someone mentioning they did it for such a run. Might've been 4x for no-backrow or something.

A bit late, but I did post a cheat table in the reverse-engineering thread which also contains a divide by 4 and 8 script for the base exp received from enemies.
I'm not too sure about how to change those to multiply, from what I remember simply changing the "shr" to "shl" works. Too lazy to test. Also it has scripts to skip spell animation and (maybe, not sure if I uploaded that as well) the battle-start animation.

LunaWillow · « **Reply #517 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:42:38 PM »

Ok I tried to beat Mirror again and was very close one time. Boosted Yuugi and Suika do incredible damage, sometimes higher than 10 000! Still, I haven't managed to get past Dijin Storm phase yet.

I also have a question: who to take to battle as my 12th party member? My party is as follows:

Parsee - tank, switcher
Hina - tank, debuffer (a little bit of attacker, too. She does around 2000 damage with Lady Ohgane's Fire with debuffs)
Yuugi - attacker
Suika - attacker
Kaguya - glass canon
Patchouli - glass canon
Keine - buffer
Minoriko - healer
Sanae - buffer, healer
Alice - switcher, can do as tank due to her evasiveness
Aya - speed buffer, switcher, evade tank

So that's my team. In case of subclassess, Yuugi is monk (leftover from some other boss fight), Hina is hexer, Parsee is strategist and Alice is magician (she occasionally gives mp to other characters). If anyone has subclasses tips too, I'd be thankful.

Scratch that I did it! I did it! Yay!
Now, If anyone has tips for Magatama...

DarkAtma · « **Reply #518 on:** April 25, 2015, 01:07:46 AM »

Does anybody still have that Lot2 Pack for Lot1 Portraits?

Or the LoT2 charagraph, i lost mines

LunaWillow · « **Reply #519 on:** April 25, 2015, 12:25:30 PM »

Quote from: DarkAtma on April 25, 2015, 01:07:46 AM

Does anybody still have that Lot2 Pack for Lot1 Portraits?

Or the LoT2 charagraph, i lost mines

Here.

jaxter0987 · « **Reply #520 on:** April 25, 2015, 09:15:10 PM »

Quote from: DarkAtma on April 25, 2015, 01:07:46 AM

Does anybody still have that Lot2 Pack for Lot1 Portraits?

Or the LoT2 charagraph, i lost mines

Hera you go. I don't like how they were cropped in your version Luna.

Shadow1176 · « **Reply #521 on:** April 26, 2015, 06:26:20 PM »

I am horribly lost on the Extra Areas of the Post game, are there any maps or tips that someone could send me? Or should I just keep exploring until I eventually find what I need? My primary issue is that I'm trying to get to the 9, 13, and 16's Extra Bosses bosses, since I already killed The Second Sun. Anybody have a suggestion?

Also, does anybody know about a glitch with Floor 9's Extra boss, in which the the rock before it shows a different message than what it should and the game crashes?

Axel Ryman · « **Reply #522 on:** April 26, 2015, 06:44:33 PM »

Quote from: Shadow1176 on April 26, 2015, 06:26:20 PM

I am horribly lost on the Extra Areas of the Post game, are there any maps or tips that someone could send me? Or should I just keep exploring until I eventually find what I need? My primary issue is that I'm trying to get to the 9, 13, and 16's Extra Bosses bosses, since I already killed The Second Sun. Anybody have a suggestion?

Also, does anybody know about a glitch with Floor 9's Extra boss, in which the the rock before it shows a different message than what it should and the game crashes?

You probably have one of the older English patches. Update it and you should be find, otherwise just spam Ignore and you can get by.

Shadow1176 · « **Reply #523 on:** April 26, 2015, 07:42:09 PM »

Quote from: Axel Ryman on April 26, 2015, 06:44:33 PM

You probably have one of the older English patches. Update it and you should be find, otherwise just spam Ignore and you can get by.

Many thanks for that, it was rather worrying to see the error message like that. My sincerest gratitude.

Shadowlupus · « **Reply #524 on:** April 28, 2015, 05:03:36 AM »

Regarding the crash of 9F extra (an also 14 extra) rocks, there is also another way. Open the game with the japanese version (if you still have it) and pass the rocks. It works.

Kuilfrayt · « **Reply #525 on:** April 28, 2015, 06:42:18 PM »

News concerning the Plus Disk:
https://twitter.com/aaa_3peso/status/591123144661803008

The circle will be present at Reitaisai 12. If I'm reading this correctly, they will try ("try" is the keyword here, it may not happen) to release the Plus Disk at the event, with plans to do patch afterwards to complete it fully (a bit the same way they did with the original Labyrinth 2)

Validon98 · « **Reply #526 on:** April 28, 2015, 07:47:47 PM »

To be honest, just the announcement that it might be released is better than no announcement at all. Even if it's not released at Reitaisai 12, there's a good chance it'll be ready for the next Comiket, so at least we know most likely it'll be out some time this year.

Fishin · « **Reply #527 on:** April 29, 2015, 12:54:49 AM »

That's great news. It's been nearly a year without a single update on the blog, I was honestly thinking we weren't going to see it.

3peso seems like an interesting guy from his other tweets too.

WenYang · « **Reply #528 on:** April 30, 2015, 08:44:08 AM »

Currently running a draft for this game at another touhou forum.

It's amusing how low you can push things... Anyone here kicked Youmu's ass at level 1? XD

icexen · « **Reply #529 on:** May 01, 2015, 11:45:31 AM »

So maybe I've messed up somewhere but putting images in the chargraph folder in the correct format/copy pasting what I wanted from an imagepack isn't actually making the game use them. It keeps sticking to the default images.

Shadowlupus · « **Reply #530 on:** May 01, 2015, 03:53:45 PM »

Quote from: icexen on May 01, 2015, 11:45:31 AM

So maybe I've messed up somewhere but putting images in the chargraph folder in the correct format/copy pasting what I wanted from an imagepack isn't actually making the game use them. It keeps sticking to the default images.

Which one are you playing? Touhou Labyrinth 1 or 2? Is the picture PNG file? Is the picture's size too large? If not, then maybe the picture is not the correct format.

Unrelated to the above; Does anybody here has a Touhou Wiki account? I am making a summary of a strategy to defeat The Desire Demon (14F Extra Boss). I see that the article hasn't been made yet and leaving it empty annoys me a little bit so that's why I am making one. The problem is I don't have an account and I cannot register now because it is disabled. So, I cannot edit the page. So, anybody who can help posting the summary is very much appreciated.

icexen · « **Reply #531 on:** May 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM »

Quote from: Kageshirou on May 01, 2015, 03:53:45 PM

Which one are you playing? Touhou Labyrinth 1 or 2? Is the picture PNG file? Is the picture's size too large? If not, then maybe the picture is not the correct format.

They're in PNG format, copy pasted from one of the downloadable chargraph packs in the links. I'm playing 2. It should work shouldn't it? If I take the three images and just paste them into the local chargraph folder the game has.

Alicirno · « **Reply #532 on:** May 01, 2015, 06:09:45 PM »

Quote from: icexen on May 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM

They're in PNG format, copy pasted from one of the downloadable chargraph packs in the links. I'm playing 2. It should work shouldn't it? If I take the three images and just paste them into the local chargraph folder the game has.

For it to work with 2, they need to be named "01_S.png", "01_SS.png" and "01_L.png", following the order ingame.

also you might need to mess with dimensions a little

Validon98 · « **Reply #533 on:** May 01, 2015, 06:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Alicirno on May 01, 2015, 06:09:45 PM

For it to work with 2, they need to be named "01_S.png", "01_SS.png" and "01_L.png", following the order ingame.

also you might need to mess with dimensions a little

Huh, I wondered why when I previously tried messing around with the CharaGraph, it wasn't working. It's not like the first game where the portraits have the names of the characters in the file names. Huh. Good to know. I might mess around with it a bit in the future, although to be honest, the art is pretty good on its own compared to the first game, so I see little need to change it, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to play around with it a bit. :V

jaxter0987 · « **Reply #534 on:** May 01, 2015, 07:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Kageshirou on May 01, 2015, 03:53:45 PM

Which one are you playing? Touhou Labyrinth 1 or 2? Is the picture PNG file? Is the picture's size too large? If not, then maybe the picture is not the correct format.

Unrelated to the above; Does anybody here has a Touhou Wiki account? I am making a summary of a strategy to defeat The Desire Demon (14F Extra Boss). I see that the article hasn't been made yet and leaving it empty annoys me a little bit so that's why I am making one. The problem is I don't have an account and I cannot register now because it is disabled. So, I cannot edit the page. So, anybody who can help posting the summary is very much appreciated.

If you don't mind just putting the info here, I can put it into the wiki. That said, I might make some liberal edits to your work if I feel compelled to do so.

Also, it would be nice if people come up with stuff to put in the overviews of the different floors. I didn't think of anything interesting to put in there when I was making a sweep through the wiki during my first playthrough. Its been so long since I've played through the game normally (ie with all characters and not just a select 12) so I can't write any suggestions for like characters to bring and what to look out for in each floor.

Koog · « **Reply #535 on:** May 01, 2015, 08:08:32 PM »

Finally I've been waiting for this announcement!!

I don't care if it isn't released this Reitaisai, some news are great!!

Shadowlupus · « **Reply #536 on:** May 02, 2015, 02:38:50 AM »

Here you go, jaxter0987. You can make a change in anything as you see fit. This is the first time I have written a strategy after all. Thanks in advance!

Desire-Eating Demon

Time for a flat-out damge race battle. The Desire-Eating Demon's attacks focus mainly on status effects and debuff. Your party should be protected against PSN PAR SIL HVY TRR and DBF, particularly PAR SIL HVY DBF. Those attacks do little damage.

The main problem of this fight, however, is that during its 4th turn. The Desire-Eating Demon will use its most fearsome attack Empty Mouth That Swallow Sinners. It is a single-target Dark attack that deals around 1 MILLION damage and inflict DTH, regardless of resistances. What's worse is that it doesn't always target the leftmost slot so you should consider switching your important character back in when the DTH attack is coming up. After it is used the first time, The Desire Demon will alternate between its normal attacks and DTH attack. Needless to say, you have to defeat it quickly before your entire party is decimated one by one. The boss has very high HP and is rather fast so this will be a long and difficult battle.

The Desire-Eating Demon is weak against CLD and NTR but highly resistant to MYS, SPI, DRK and PHY and neutral to FIR and WND. So Nitori, Nazrin, Yuugi, Suika, Kanako, Suwako, Yuuka (or anyone with a Monk Subclass) is your great damage dealer here.

It is weak against SIL and SHK and resist Debuff so prepare your characters as you see fit. Inflicting SIL can help lowering its MND. Inflicting SPD debuff can also slow the boss down a bit. Its weakness to SHK should be exploited so bringing in Kasen, Reisen, Remilia, Flandre. Renko and Maribel. Orin and Kogasa are highly recommended in this battle. Kogasa can help SHK and deal Nature damage with her Karakasa Surprising Flash while Orin can SHK the boss reliably and continuously with her low-delay Cat's Walk. Renko can both inflict SIL and SHK on the boss.

Do note that most of the boss's attacks have a very low delay so its next turn will come faster. The DTH attack has the delay of 1000 so this is your greatest chance to switch in your attackers.

Also, I see on the wiki that The Demon weakness to CLD and NTR is black instead of red so please change that. Those have different meaning in this game. (Red = Weak, Black = Very weak)

And which floor do you need overview? I have played the game several times so I might help with that if I have some free time.

jaxter0987 · « **Reply #537 on:** May 02, 2015, 02:58:23 PM »

Quote from: Kageshirou on May 02, 2015, 02:38:50 AM

And which floor do you need overview? I have played the game several times so I might help with that if I have some free time.

You can just see which floors are lacking an overview when you browse through the dungeon pages. I'd say I'm more of an editor than a creator, when it comes to the wiki. I can edit content to great effect, but I always have trouble coming up with a basic structure to the boss strategies. So regardless if its your first time writing anything like this, all I really need is a basic structure to go off of. For these overviews, I basically want ideas on what should be noted on each floor.

Also, I've put the strategy on the wiki. I want to talk more about how Orin could potentially perma Shock the boss but I never used that strategy when I fought the boss. I went with a damage race.

Shadowlupus · « **Reply #538 on:** May 02, 2015, 03:17:01 PM »

I see that starting from 14F onwards, the wiki lacks an overview so I will post everything here.

Really great work on the wiki there. I agree with adding that information. The more the better.

LunaWillow · « **Reply #539 on:** May 04, 2015, 01:54:24 PM »

Wow, 12F Tenshi was easiest boss in the game. Rumia and Satori wrecked her! Only other fight that was so easy was probably Hina.

Ame-no-Marukamo is Tasouken!