Puzzle & Dragons 14 - Double the stamina, double the fun

[Zerviscos]

I couldn't resist not evolving her. Right after leveling to max, and evolving. I went straight for her ult evo.





I had like 8 Angelits, and 2 Devilits. Wouldn't mind wasting 1 Angelit. As for the Jewels, I don't have any monster I can use for them right now anyways.

Time to hunt for Athena leaders.

[OverlordChirei]

I had a bad nightmare, so I woke up to find that I had enough stamina for Weekend Legend, but then I somehow got enough exp to rank up, so I immediately jumped into Alt. Hypno Forest in the middle of the night.

This place is NOTABLY harder. Giant Pengdras and Dub-emelits are annoying as hell, and I actually died on Wave 9/10 on the finale due to not enough damage on the Sylphs and had to stone. Why did I stone, you ask?



Barely got the one-hit kill on boss Sylph, had dangerously low health because I respawned with a bad board and both Sylphs whacked me again, so I had only one shot to do it since that was my last stone. As you can see, the exp is much worse than CoSitA, so running this over and over for EXP might be really questionable.

Also obligatory for Chaore:



  The dream is complete 

I just realized wow I suck at PAD, I maxskilled someone extremely hard to skillup before I hypermaxed them :fail:

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Holy shit, Chirei best Leilan NA

[trancehime]

 

[Zerviscos]

 

I'm raging with JELLY spread over my sandwhich here.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Oh right, this reminds me, didn't we have a DMeta user in here that used Pandora as a sub? With the uvo she'll no longer deal shit damage while everyone else deals amazing damage.

This comes double if DValk gets an uvo with a god subtype :V

[Espadas]

Managed one last roll for the godfest: Pandora ^^

The more i REM roll, the more i need REM-only monsters  :V

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Oh right, this reminds me, didn't we have a DMeta user in here that used Pandora as a sub? With the uvo she'll no longer deal shit damage while everyone else deals amazing damage.

Yo.

Yeah my old DMeta team did ridiculous damage while only using three attackers. The problem is that the team was insanely squishy and could not take a hit to save its life, so it was a matter of kill or be killed. My repertoire has expanded since then, so once her ult gets here (god damn it hurry up already), I'm looking more at combinations of DMeta with Pandora, Haku, Hanzo, Finn, BOdin, DFagan (who I'll get in the future), DIzanami, or any other combination because the greatest part of this is that I'm not limited to dark anymore even if DMeta herself is dark-- it's just that dark is optimal for obvious reasons.

[Chaore]

no

fuck no go away pirate dragons

please mercy

[commandercool]

Just tell him to pick up a Folklore whenever the mystic dragons next roll up and have him use Ronia/Ronia/Ronia/Ronia/Folklore/Friend Lu Bu.

I'm pretty sure you just can't fuck up with this combination.

That's what I keep telling him. He finally did finish a Folklore off of coin dungeons yesterday, but he keeps basically ignoring me when I suggest Lu Bu friend and insisting that he wants to do Sonia friend with sub Lu Bu. But he won't roll for Lu Bu. It's crazy.

He is getting at least a little better thoigh. A month ago he wouldn't even attempt dungeons he couldn't cheese with green Odin, so at least now he's clearing starter descends.

[OverlordChirei]

Scraped together two more stones, and one more from the last vestiges of my Google Survey credit for one last pull since everyone seems to be getting great reprisal pulls, and I am now the proud owner of DQXQ.

Today is great.

[Thaws]

Leilan

Congrats! Huge respect for that dedication.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xWvzQ7TwZ0
Ahahahaha Zaerog in Dragon Rush legendplus dungeon :V :V :V

[commandercool]

I keep considering dropping some cash for more rolls on this godfest because it's gone so well, but then I remembered I don't really want any more things. :V

I guess at this point all I'm really after is a marginal interest in Hatsume and Metatron, general utility subs like Yomi, and a Chinese at some point. And an earth golem weirdly.

I need so many Tamadras to finish off even just the main two projects I'm working on right now (finishing off blue healers and starting GZL). What do you guys think of Tamadra Village? I can probably grind out the gold to do it today, but I'll need to wait for a few more free stones before I consider actually using it since ideally I want like 20+ Tamas in one go and the space to store them and some evo materials for them. My box is woefully undersized for my rank. Or maybe it'd be more worth it to just be patient for gift Tamadras.

[OverlordChirei]

Tamadra Village

If you're gonna do that, I'd suggest trying to do it right before a rankup so you can do two in a row - you're guaranteed at least 8 shots at awakenings at the minimum. Not sure about how worth it it is to stone on this at lower (less than 198) stamina bars.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I currently have 42 stamina and am 1k away from a rank up. I'll run it when I hit 99 and see how it goes.

[commandercool]

If you're gonna do that, I'd suggest trying to do it right before a rankup so you can do two in a row - you're guaranteed at least 8 shots at awakenings at the minimum. Not sure about how worth it it is to stone on this at lower (less than 198) stamina bars.

That pretty much goes without saying for most coin dungeons, doesn't it? It's probably impractical to try to do that for something you plan on farming over numerous purchases in the same few weeks, but for rare Tamadra Villages, King Carnivals, and even reverse technical dungeons it seems like ranking up off of them would always be at least the plan.

I currently have 42 stamina and am 1k away from a rank up. I'll run it when I hit 99 and see how it goes.

Cool. Let me know what happens.

[Suikama]

I currently have 42 stamina and am 1k away from a rank up. I'll run it when I hit 99 and see how it goes.

Remember to bring multiple poisons because the boss tamadra has a preemptive bind, and if it preemptively binds your one poison then that could be a failed run

[Conqueror]

Did 4 pulls for kicks. I was pretty surprised with the first pull but my jaw kept dropping as I YOLO'd the others.

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Anyway, guess I'm done with pulls for a while, since I have a bunch of different playstyles to work with now. V:

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Cool. Let me know what happens.

Round 1: Baby Tama x4, Regular Tama
Round 2: Baby Tama x4, ROdin Tama

Reeeeally not worth the 198 stamina and 10 mil. That is my verdict. But I guess I did fully awaken Tightpants Lady Thor with all of the babies?

Remember to bring multiple poisons because the boss tamadra has a preemptive bind, and if it preemptively binds your one poison then that could be a failed run

It's cool, one is fine. I ran Lilith in my Luci team for that very reason-- I can get rid of the bind with Pandora and I can tank the attack if needed because way more than 22222 HP. :p

[Thaws]

Tamadra village thingy is not worth the 10mil coins even more so since they've released a guerilla tamadra dungeon anyways
50stam/4stages
The only drawbacks are you have Chibidra in your way so you get less babies, and you can't farm OdinTamas.

_{Made a herder to show off my stuff}

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Tamadra village thingy is not worth the 10mil coins even more so since they've released a guerilla tamadra dungeon anyways
50stam/4stages
The only drawbacks are you have Chibidra in your way so you get less babies, and you can't farm OdinTamas.

_{Made a herder to show off my stuff}

Oh, one of these days, once I've maxed out more of my dudes via King Carnivals, I'm gonna save up and do a bunch of Tama dungeons just to finish skilling up my Odin (because fuck Eva collab forever).


Anyway I've been having a rather shitty day in PAD and Dorapo where nothing has really gone right for me (or at least, not without great expense), so I bought myself three stones so I could do one last yoloroll before the end of godfest.



i think i won yoloroll

EDIT: I... think I just made the most wicked team possible for DMeta. And I have everything needed for it.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1644.99.1.99.99.99.7..1269.99.1.99.99.99.7..1553.99.1.99.99.99.4..1305.99.1.99.99.99.6..1240.99.1.99.99.99.4..1644.99.1.99.99.99.7

Ult DMeta / D/D Haku / D/D FA Lucifer / Gryps Rider Vector Finn / Lu Bu / Ult DMeta

10 rows. 10 skill boosts. Three units capable of orb enhancement. Two capable of orb changing. One capable of super-enhancing. Haku has one TPA, Finn has 2.

Pop Haku, get dark rows ready. Pop DMeta or Luci, get orbs enhanced. Pop Lu Bu.

Guaranteed 16x due to having 1 HP, with enhanced orbs, with a 10-row boost, times 2.5 from Lu Bu.

If I did the math right, that's 16 x 2 x 2.5, and disregarding enhancements, that's x80. But leftover orbs could always be contributed to TPA as well, in which, at least for Finn, his damage can be even more than that.

Oh man. I'm excited and need to make a good twinlit farming team so I can collect the devilits I need for this.

[Espadas]

LOL what is it with this godfest and last-minute awesome yolorolls?

Chirei got DQXQ
Conqueror got Yomi, Leviathan, Ronia and Anubis
Thaws got Apocalypse
I got Pandora

aaaannnddd..... last night i rushed a few dungeons to get 1 final almost literally last minute roll  :V

IDUNN&IDUNNA!  :* :toot:

Now i have to go check team building guides..... I&I, Andromeda, Hatsume, Sarasvati, L/B Archangel, uevo Kamui, Ruka, Snow White, B/R Siegfried and of course B/G Karin..... there MUST be some blue team i can build...

[Zerviscos]

Newer non-IAPs and players be like, having better REM pulls, with probably around 70% God drop Rate.

And I'm like, still stuck with my Golems, Healer Girls, Elementals and Mystic Knights.

[trancehime]

Newer non-IAPs and players be like, having better REM pulls, with probably around 70% God drop Rate.

And I'm like, still stuck with my Golems, Healer Girls, Elementals and Mystic Knights.

If it makes you feel better despite having pulled Urd (New Godfest exclusive) and DMeta from the Godfest the other 2 non-dupes were Silvers (Vampire and Kirisame) and the other 6 pulls were dupes. :v

[OverlordChirei]

So just to repost this so I don't fudge up my numbers this time:



I've done *roughly* 100 runs so far, could be more or less, I've honestly lost track, but from the amount of ranks I've gained in the past week or so, it's definitely around there.

This is nowhere close to the 6000+ runs shown above, but I have to wonder how these guys got their data, because I'm at 12 Pys encountered so far across three different dungeon areas, and 4 of them having dropped. This does not seem to match the data suggesting 1/44 encounter rates(?) and 1/171 drop rate(?) at all, but it's possible my runs amount could just be too small, or I'm getting flat-out lucky.

Just thinking out loud here, but NA Py rates could have been tweaked to be better than tested above. Who knows.

[Espadas]

Just thinking out loud here, but NA Py rates could have been tweaked to be better than tested above. Who knows.

If you just jinxed it i'm coming after you with a rusted spoon..... :V

[trancehime]

Just thinking out loud here, but NA Py rates could have been tweaked to be better than tested above. Who knows.

They either got tweaked or they're BUGGED to be better than tested above.

JPN people tend to have overall shittier luck with Py than NA players as I see no shortage of NA players showing off their drops/encounters while I see a myriad of tweets explaining that "out of 7~9 hours of Py farming 0 or 1 drops only" with the sample size consisting of Rank 600+ players.

I dunno man.

[OverlordChirei]

They either got tweaked or they're BUGGED to be better than tested above.

JPN people tend to have overall shittier luck with Py than NA players as I see no shortage of NA players showing off their drops/encounters while I see a myriad of tweets explaining that "out of 7~9 hours of Py farming 0 or 1 drops only" with the sample size consisting of Rank 600+ players.

I dunno man.

I'm not even looking at the number of drops - the number of straight up encounters boggles me as well, unless the JP players aren't counting those.

inb4 jp buggd and there's nthn they cn du

[trancehime]

I'm not even looking at the number of drops - the number of straight up encounters boggles me as well, unless the JP players aren't counting those.

inb4 jp buggd and there's nthn they cn du

In the image you linked it was 136 encounters total logged.

\(O_o)/

[Zerviscos]

I can't read that. Is that 6012 runs for a Flampy drop? Or is that 6012 runs for all of them?
If it's 6012 runs for all of them, which I think is ludicrous, then I can't believe they had the time and money.

I'll just post to answer how they got their data.

I have to wonder how these guys got their data

Simple probability axiom. Most likely it's amount of eggs drop of supposed samples over the course of total runs, then divided onto their own sets by ratio.
For example, 1 Py in the course of 171 runs. Which means in over 6012 runs, the drop was most likely around 35 eggs. Though that doesn't mean it's 1 Badpy per 171 runs. Again, the number of total runs is divided over the number of total eggs.

The rates seem fair, seeing how ludicrously rare Pys are, and of course let's not forget the drop rate.

The more runs a person does, the more data he gathers, ofc this changes overtime with random algorithm in tact with the system. There's still room for percentage errors, and no probability is truly perfect.

Which sums down to the question you already answered:

my runs amount could just be too small, or I'm getting flat-out lucky.

Edit:

Just thinking out loud here, but NA Py rates could have been tweaked to be better than tested above. Who knows.

I wouldn't be surprised they would lower the rates for more people to buy stones.