Author Topic: Puzzle & Dragons 14 - Double the stamina, double the fun (Read 112755 times)

Thaws · « **Reply #330 on:** November 10, 2014, 04:32:14 AM »

Quote from: Fast Fanatic on November 10, 2014, 04:23:42 AM

Every awakening that exists now existed back then, but TPA didn't boost attack by 50% so it was largely worthless. Damage reduction was also only 2% each, and the stat boost awakenings were about half as potent as they are now.

Gungho gave everyone a free TAMADRA via gift dungeon when awakenings were introduced but after that, we were basically told "Go do Metal Dragons and pray" or get lucky on the PEM. Thursday and Friday Dungeon did a lot in terms of making them more accessible, though.

A bit of extra info:
-Awakenings were released together with Tamadoras as the main way of awakening along with dups
-All monsters you see with awakenings now got the awakenings added to them at the same time awakenings were released. Top-tier leaders back then got very crappy awakenings. (See pre-ult Horus, Angel Lucifer)
-Only one new awakenings was added after its initial implementation: Skill Bind Resists (because skill binds were only a thing since Izanami, and awakenings were released at around the time Athena was out I think)
-REM gods started out with only 3 awakenings only. But Collab REM gold eggs usually came with four (I forgot starting with which collab, but HxH from late 2013 had Kilua/Gon/etc which had 4 awakenings). Eventually, they decided to add the fourth awakening to every god series to balance that out. They also took this timing to implement skill bind resist. This is why most of the top-tier leaders back then in early 2014 got a skill bind resist as their fourth awakening. (Egypt 1.0s, Kushinada, Ookuni, Kirin)
-Demons were included in the "get fourth awakening list" but ninjas were not.

Chaore · « **Reply #331 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:02:25 AM »

Quote from: Thaws on November 10, 2014, 04:32:14 AM

-Demons were included in the "get fourth awakening list" but ninjas were not.

Ninjas are not godfest monsters, Demons are- so they're ranked higher than ninjas ;v

hyorinryu · « **Reply #332 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:04:56 AM »

Quote from: Chaore on November 10, 2014, 04:26:03 AM

Prongs were always around, they just got buffed fairly (?) recently.

The only 'new' awakening was skill bind awakening- gungho seems to be improving older awakenings first before doing more new ones.

Honestly we don't entirely know how tama were like because that was still when Gungho was a much larger pile of dicks to us. We didn't get the same distribution to the point it literally -heavily- altered our metas more than any amount of missing units. But I don't think Pii will go the same way very quickly.

That'd be a -lot- more lost money than Tama.

I still hate pirates so much. They were such a pain.

Quote from: Thaws on November 10, 2014, 04:32:14 AM

A bit of extra info:
-Awakenings were released together with Tamadoras as the main way of awakening along with dups
-All monsters you see with awakenings now got the awakenings added to them at the same time awakenings were released. Top-tier leaders back then got very crappy awakenings. (See pre-ult Horus, Angel Lucifer)
-Only one new awakenings was added after its initial implementation: Skill Bind Resists (because skill binds were only a thing since Izanami, and awakenings were released at around the time Athena was out I think)
-REM gods started out with only 3 awakenings only. But Collab REM gold eggs usually came with four (I forgot starting with which collab, but HxH from late 2013 had Kilua/Gon/etc which had 4 awakenings). Eventually, they decided to add the fourth awakening to every god series to balance that out. They also took this timing to implement skill bind resist. This is why most of the top-tier leaders back then in early 2014 got a skill bind resist as their fourth awakening. (Egypt 1.0s, Kushinada, Ookuni, Kirin)
-Demons were included in the "get fourth awakening list" but ninjas were not.

I don't think awakening were around since Athena. Kirin only recently came out when Athena did, and the JP 2.0s were definitely around when awakenings came. I remember Suikama making a big deal about UmiYama getting orb enhances.

Chaore · « **Reply #333 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:17:09 AM »

ahahahaha oh man i remember how suikama was all like 'rows sux' and 'orb enhance for life'

those were the days

and like none of us got how fucking good rows were until ronia because none of us had the damn things because awakenings were so -rare-

Suikama · « **Reply #334 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:36:10 AM »

to be fair it was because i was wrong on how both awakenings worked :V

i originally thought orb enhance worked with orb changers and rows didnt stack but as soon as it actually came out and we learned that it stacked with itself and increased even further with each row activation it was clear how strong they were

hyorinryu · « **Reply #335 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:52:13 AM »

Quote from: Suikama on November 10, 2014, 05:36:10 AM

to be fair it was because i was wrong on how both awakenings worked :V

i originally thought orb enhance worked with orb changers and rows didnt stack but as soon as it actually came out and we learned that it stacked with itself and increased even further with each row activation it was clear how strong they were

It didn't help that most things didn't have rows either. I think it was Norses, riders, ninjas, and Archdemons, and the Archdemons didn't have any of their buffs. Most of the really fun stuff like dmeta and BOdin were pretty rare.

trancehime · « **Reply #336 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:02:41 AM »

DC Collab REM Pulls:

#1 - Batwoman & Batgirl
#2 - Green Arrow
#3 - Supergirl
#4 - Aquaman

i think i won

Thaws · « **Reply #337 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:20:08 AM »

Quote from: auri.ca on November 10, 2014, 07:02:41 AM

DC Collab REM Pulls:

#1 - Batwoman & Batgirl
#2 - Green Arrow
#3 - Supergirl
#4 - Aquaman

i think i won

Nobody can stop trance and his light healers now.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #338 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:39:40 AM »

Don't do this guys it takes way too fuggin long

EDIT: Did my DC pull. Got Aquaman. RIP KING BUBBLIE 2K14

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #339 on:** November 10, 2014, 08:10:42 AM »

Wonder Woman and the Batgirls.

...at least their art is pretty good?

Chaore · « **Reply #340 on:** November 10, 2014, 08:25:34 AM »

Well, It was inevitable. I'd shit talk her endlessly and then roll her.

I'm done, I quit.

Nothing is saving this event for me. Nothing in the world.

PAD IS OVER.

FOREVER.

Spoiler:

trancehime · « **Reply #341 on:** November 10, 2014, 11:05:06 AM »

Quote from: Thaws on November 10, 2014, 07:20:08 AM

Nobody can stop trance and his light healers now.

This game really wants me to run light healers =v

Espadas · « **Reply #342 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:28:14 PM »

I don't know if i just did something moronic, what i do know is that this game sometimes is a real B***ARD.

tried Wadatsumi Descended Legend with B/G Karin - Awoken Hera-Is - Awoken Hera - SGS Siren - B/R Siegfried - B/G Karin

all went more or less ok until U&Y.... the game decided i didn't need heart orbs skyfall anymore and i couldn't heal for 3 rounds. Out of heart orbs, out of life and siren with still 1 turn of cd i burn a 7-star hoping to kill them (they still had around 40% of life). They survive with a sliver of life and kill me. After much deliberating i decided to stone.

Against Siren i get orbtrolled twice in a row and need 3 turns to bring her under 50%, get 2 turns of bind and of course i get oneshot on the last turn. Stoned again out of rage.

Against Wadatsumi i use double gravity..... and immediately after that i notice i got ORBTROLLED AGAIN.... burn my second 7-star, of course he survive with a wisp of life and proceed to turn 90% of my board into jammers, didn't get a single combo out of a 99% SCREEN SKYFALL and get oneshot again. Proceed to mutter every swear and curse i know in 5 different languages and stoned for the 3rd time.

At least i got the drop.... :X

Was stupid of me to burn 3 freaking stones, especially since i'm quite low on them and today begin the DC REM?

Edible · « **Reply #343 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:31:37 PM »

Yolorolled Flash, got annoyed, yolorolled Batwoman.

F this collab :V

Espadas · « **Reply #344 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Edible on November 10, 2014, 12:31:37 PM

Yolorolled Flash, got annoyed, yolorolled Batwoman.

F this collab :V

The end of the world is near.... Edible NOT rolling godly? That's impos..... oh wait, you weren't drunk, were you?

You need the Power of Alcohol? if you want to get the Power of Krypton? :V

Edible · « **Reply #345 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:58:25 PM »

Quote from: Espadas on November 10, 2014, 12:51:10 PM

The end of the world is near.... Edible NOT rolling godly? That's impos..... oh wait, you weren't drunk, were you?

You need the Power of Alcohol? if you want to get the Power of Krypton? :V

Son of a-

I knew I forgot to do something important ;_;

Suikama · « **Reply #346 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:17:22 PM »

holy crap everythibg even drops fully evolved in this dungeon

dc dungeon confirmed top tier

commandercool · « **Reply #347 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:23:53 PM »

Quote from: Chaore on November 10, 2014, 08:25:34 AM

You didn't really think I'd quit before all my stones were dry, did you?[/spoiler]

Imagine if that egg had hatched another Supergirl. :derp: Congratulations. You got plans for them?

Quote from: Suikama on November 10, 2014, 01:17:22 PM

holy crap everythibg even drops fully evolved in this dungeon

dc dungeon confirmed top tier

Wuuuuuut Merlin are you actually getting skillups after all? That's pretty impressive. Are the drop rates good? Well now I can pointlessly skillmax my trophy Lex.

I feel like I can't spend any of my stones on the DCREM (and probably shouldn't, since I don't really want anything but the gold eggs) if there's a possibility that the wizard carnival might overlap with a Three Kingdoms godfest. Is that even possible? The chance to pull some wizards to actually skillup is pretty enticing.

triangles · « **Reply #348 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:29:10 PM »

I was a bum and didn't pay attention to previous power ranking discussions, I got Green Arrow and Supergirl what's the verdict on them?

Edible · « **Reply #349 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:29:35 PM »

Drop rates in legendary are 100%. Only problem is the first floor, where both ivy and harley spawn.

trancehime · « **Reply #350 on:** November 10, 2014, 01:31:42 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on November 10, 2014, 01:17:22 PM

holy crap everythibg even drops fully evolved in this dungeon

dc dungeon confirmed top tier

yes indeed, fully evo'd from Master and Legend.

Quote from: triangles on November 10, 2014, 01:29:10 PM

I was a bum and didn't pay attention to previous power ranking discussions, I got Green Arrow and Supergirl what's the verdict on them?

Green Arrow is currently irrelevant in NA until the orb enhance awakening buffs get implemented there. Otherwise he's got that 7 cd spread cats+orb enhance going for him. Basically he's decent and at least is competitive with My Melody, another Green collab mon but not everyone may have My Melody; I don't have any of the Hello Kitty Collab monsters because I started playing really late.

Supergirl is a step in the right direction for making Light healers more offensively viable but she really needs a 2nd TPA or more ATK to keep her competitive with guys like Rei Sirius and LZL.

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #351 on:** November 10, 2014, 02:32:55 PM »

No-stoned. Metropolis is safe for another day...or until I run the dungeon again.

If I didn't *need* three gravities for this team I'd work on leveling Doomsday to take a Hera's spot so wave 1 becomes easier, but I can't get through Doomsday anymore if I do that. Decisions, decisions.

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #352 on:** November 10, 2014, 03:51:35 PM »

I fucking hate myself. Bought a 30 pack for this.
Shouldn't have done it but the gacha game is way too strong.

Chaore · « **Reply #353 on:** November 10, 2014, 03:55:52 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on November 10, 2014, 01:23:53 PM

Imagine if that egg had hatched another Supergirl. :derp: Congratulations. You got plans for them?

I was half expecting that really.

Also not entirely. Superman's active is fantastic if you have baal for thor but I have neither thor nor baal, and otherwise it seems like those are color strangely hard to work with. As a leader he -really- needs Lmeta or possibly LZL to go places. I mostly rolled for the hell of it, and because ultimates might make Supergirl worthwhile and supes opieop.

Also because i'm a nerd.

I'll have to play around with my box, see what I could do.

Overall i'm pleased with it over 10 golems. I got everything but flash too.

Suikama · « **Reply #354 on:** November 10, 2014, 04:01:21 PM »

man screw chester i should just farm this dungeon and skill up doomsday himself :V

Chaore · « **Reply #355 on:** November 10, 2014, 04:11:55 PM »

...shiiit if I had flash I could do something silly like Athena Arthur Fuu Flash on supes. ;;

Maybe next time it comes around. I've had my fun this run.

Edible · « **Reply #356 on:** November 10, 2014, 05:04:39 PM »

Quote from: Edible on November 10, 2014, 01:29:35 PM

Drop rates in legendary are 100%. Only problem is the first floor, where both ivy and harley spawn.

Oops, nevermind. My third run, I got neither ivy nor harley. My bad.

Suikama · « **Reply #357 on:** November 10, 2014, 06:31:17 PM »

i died again to coin dungeons

someone give me the worst pad player award

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #358 on:** November 10, 2014, 06:52:38 PM »

Quote from: Suikama on November 10, 2014, 06:31:17 PM

i died again to coin dungeons

someone give me the worst pad player award

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #359 on:** November 10, 2014, 07:22:18 PM »

Aug 02 18:45:02 <rdj522> Unfortunately you wouldn't be able to have Ultimate Thief, and lol any of us getting Zeus-Dios

Best leader in the fucking game.

Author Topic: Puzzle & Dragons 14 - Double the stamina, double the fun (Read 112755 times)

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