The Worst Gensokyans

[CyberAngel]

Serious question: what were the important motives behind SSiB, where Yukari's involvement is concerned?

Glad you asked! I actually do see something behind it other than an attempt to troll or scare a newcomer on her part.

Imagine the situation after IN - you're essentially Gensokyo's sysadmin, and you've just discovered that someone who just got away with sealing the whole of Gensokyo in a fake universe is your neighbour, she's from the moon and possibly is an ancient goddess of wisdom. Since those on the moon wanted to get them, who knows what else would she or they do to Gensokyo? So by the whole ordeal Yukari sent a strong message to those who consider themselves above everyone else - do not underestimate youkai. That's a conclusion I came to after that story, anyway, and that's why I trust Yukari.

Of course, if someone doesn't like Yukari just for being manipulative, benevolent or not, it's understandable. Just don't assume she's outright malicious when it's not clear that she is.

[Tengukami]

An interesting perspective on SSiB. And very charitible towards Yukari. Not sure I agree, but that's a new POV anyway. Suffice to say that I try not to project intent in characters, whether malice or altruism. Besides intent mattering not ask much as the result.

Which reminds me: Mystia. Blinds people then suckers them with magical eel. What does the little con artist do with her money? Nothing of any good to anyone. Mystia in the outside world would be running 419 scams.

[Critz]

Well... still a step above trying to eat them outright. Maybe she uses the money for her punk rock band with Kyouko?

[sekibanki]

...wat. Nope. Ghosts, phantoms and so on don't eat humans in Gensokyo. Unless you count feeding off their spirits and/or possession. Which Prismrivers don't do.

Lyrica
   
Time for the banquet~

Merlin
   
Well, perhaps it might be enough for a petit banquet?

Sakuya

What? Are you going to have a flower viewing party after this, or something?

Merlin

Yes, we shall.

Lunasa
   
Before that, we might be able to get a hold of stuff for the banquet.

Lyrica
   
It is the eve feast of the flower-viewing festival.

Sakuya
   
Sounds like fun.

Lunasa

You are to serve us as food.

Sakuya
   
I'm not sure I'm qualified.

Merlin

No dish has ever escaped my performance alive.

Sakuya

Hopefully I can make it through okay.

Lyrica

Dog meat, dog meat~

Sakuya

Human meat!

[Raikaria]

Like, at no point is Reimu considered undefeatable because "defeat" doesn't mean "defeat while everyone is putting their lives on the line and doing the most they possibly can to win", which is the only context where Fantasy Nature and the Barrier's stability become relevant. Fantasy Nature is explicitly beatable in modern Gensokyo and nobody ever wanted to kill the shrine maiden even before the Rules were put into play.

Aside from Sariel's theme being called Let's All Die together...

Reimu: Sorry, I only just realized it now, but I always wanted to say that... Anyway, that's not important right now! Mima!! You're the one who wrecked my shrine, aren't you!
Mima: Oh, who cares about some cheap shrine in the middle of nowhere? My goal is to exact revenge on the entire human race.

Considering this is tied to a shrine being destroyed... I think we can interpret her revenge as murder. And Reimu is part of the human race. She later says she'll stop just short of killing Reimu but only so she can force Reimu to use the orbs for her plan.

In PoDD while they didn't want to KILL Reimu, kidnapping her from the entire dimension still fills the 'we need the Hakurei Maiden to not all die' thing.

Orange: I'll bang, shoot, and pop your head off!

Not ambiguous here.

Yuuka: Don't think you'll have it easy because I just woke up. ♥ That is, if you want to live a little longer!!

Yep, again, Yuuka clearly aims to kill Reimu.

I'll ignore MS because Makai =/= Gensokyo so they don't need to worry about murdering Reimu.

[Gpop]

I'll ignore MS because Makai =/= Gensokyo so they don't need to worry about murdering Reimu.

Also do keep in mind that ZUN did state that the PC-98 stories are known to conflict with a lot of the Windows Canon, so whenever it does, to always take the Windows stories/settings as "more canon" and take the PC-98 settings with a grain of salt. Not to say these example are disproven (they could easily have their own reasons), but it does display contradictions to the current characters and Reimu's importance.

Btw, there's only really one character I dislike, which Critz bluntly put which I agree most points for.

Sakuya: All hints considered, I cannot bring myself to give her the benefit of the doubt when it comes to being a serial killer. Funny enough, most people seem to consider that one of her main appeals, but for me neither being a killer nor her unbeatable superpower nor her zero known backstory and reason for resulting allegiance with a vampire over fellow humans do the trick. What remains is mostly a boring, overly loyal and obedient servant of SDM denizens, a goal-oriented and sometimes cruel exterminator with little emotions to spare towards anyone else (with a joke cracked once in a while) and conflicting characterization (being "perfect and elegant" on one hand, being a clumsy airhead on the other). Likewise, her looks are among Gensokyo's most uninspired, being nothing more than a typical maid attire and grayed out hair tied into a painfully antiquated hairdo. She's basically a less well-made Youmu for me. And finally, the fandom. God, the fandom - no other character has it worse, be it pads, lolicon, Meiling/Sanae abuse or being a psychopath in general.

Now, except for the serial killer part which I never really thought about, I think in terms of character personality and design itself, I agree that she is the most boring and unappealing. As a maid she doesn't really stand out that much except for her knives and even then, I'm usually reminded of Ciel from Tsukihime rather than her own original idea. But I think a better example is being a second Yumeko. Although Yumeko is just as plain as well, I still think she stands out slightly more than Sakuya herself (probably the blonde hair).

The only thing I will give to Sakuya is her ability. It is pretty nifty, albeit overpowered. But I can't say much about that when I compare it to other character powers in the series itself. If only it was given to a much more interesting character.

Now, I don't want to touch upon the fandom thing and say its faults, but I will admit that they are part of the reason why I dislike Sakuya to bottom tier 2hu levels. It makes even Mima herself bearable at least.

Btw, Tengukami, you'd probably expect a response from me regarding your opinion on Koishi but your points are totally valid from what I read, but it's also my appeal to her. Rather, I do see Koishi as a tragic character as well that is only known through others. The fact that even Koishi herself doesn't know about it makes it even more tragic, where she's now at a point that she can't even revert back to her original status if she wanted to due to her inability to control herself.

But I really did like the addition they added to her in SoPM being regarded as a childhood imaginary friend. That was an interesting take on her existence to others that I didn't think about which makes it slightly less tragic...until the part that she is forgotten once the child grows up (and therefore develop the mind fully that she no longer "exists" to them).

[Prime32]

An interesting perspective on SSiB. And very charitible towards Yukari. Not sure I agree, but that's a new POV anyway. Suffice to say that I try not to project intent in characters, whether malice or altruism. Besides intent mattering not ask much as the result.

The Imperishable Night Incident was one of the few cases where Yukari stepped out of the shadows and tried to resolve an incident herself, and it's the only case where she thought it would take herself and Reimu working together to do it. So it's fair to say that Yukari takes Eirin extremely seriously.

Also, if I may nitpick, it's a perspective on Bougetsushou not SSiB. :V The SSiB parts of the story never depict Yukari's thoughts or explain her true motive.

Also do keep in mind that ZUN did state that the PC-98 stories are known to conflict with a lot of the Windows Canon, so whenever it does, to always take the Windows stories/settings as "more canon" and take the PC-98 settings with a grain of salt. Not to say these example are disproven (they could easily have their own reasons), but it does display contradictions to the current characters and Reimu's importance.

Didn't ZUN say at one point in the PC-98 era that "Touhou is not a series" and the games aren't meant to have any real continuity between them?

Anyway, around the time of EoSD or PCB, ZUN was sent an email...

Are Yuki and Mai really dead? I know we're dealing with a PC-98 game, but were Yuki and Mai from Mystic Square really killed? Looking in particular in the conversation when Lady Mima and Yuki are left... (sweat)

...and gave this response

Basically, they're whatever-works types, so they might not be dead.  I generally have no comment regarding the PC-98 games.  Please ignore them just as one can ignore derivative works. :-)

[Tiamat]

An interesting perspective on SSiB. And very charitible towards Yukari. Not sure I agree, but that's a new POV anyway. Suffice to say that I try not to project intent in characters, whether malice or altruism. Besides intent mattering not ask much as the result.

It's not just a perspective.  It's outright explicitly stated that Yukari had ulterior motives beyond doing it just for sadistic/malevolent/whatever reasons in CiLR.  Again, these are stories from Yukari's perspective using her own inner narrative, so we know it's the true Yukari and not just an act/lie.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cage_in_Lunatic_Runagate/Fifth_Chapter

"The new residents that are from the moon chose to live as human and not as youkai. Thus the ones at Eientei chose to be humans."  "Yet they do not fulfill the role of humans.?

The humans in the outside world have roles they must fulfill, too: learning, working and being a part of society, including paying taxes. Gensokyo then adds dealing with youkai to the list.

Ran's reply: ?The roles of humans, you say? Come to think about it, that?s right. They do not fear youkai, and their existence can destroy the power balance between the humans and the youkai. ...But what does that have to do with the invasion of the moon??

Yukari's response:  ?I already told you that, didn?t I? I want residential tax. Even if it does strengthen the humans to the extent of healing and caring for their wounds, I don?t mind. But they are not fulfilling their roles in paying tax, and thus cannot be a part of human society.

(the combination of Yukari's inner narrative interspersed there shows she's being honest with Ran in that conversation)





http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cage_in_Lunatic_Runagate/Last_Chapter

That ominous smile left a deep scar in her (Eirin's) mind, something she would never be able to forget. To make those who cannot die question the meaning of living. To make them fear the unknown, what they cannot understand.

That was the true intention behind Yukari's Second Lunar Invasion.




So you see, she actually did the entire thing for Gensokyo's state even if on the outside she was sadistically gleefully squeeling over her revenge.  I personally think she was might have been pretending when she did that laughing part, but there's no proof either way admittingly.   Honestly that's the only time I've ever seen her act like that far as I recall so I'm not completely sure if she was acting or actually taking a moment to enjoy herself or what.  The anger part before then was explicitly an act to get the Lunarians off guard, though.

Again, besides stealing Reimu, every bad thing Yukari did always had an ulterior good motive, and her outside smugness in the finale to CiLR was specifically to make Eirin fear her (the inner narrative doesn't state if Yukari herself really was feeling that smug on the inside).  Which is why I suspect her outside smugness and jackassness when doing things in general isn't her true personality (since all the things she did really were for their's or Gensokyo's own good, and she often hides the "good" part for things that wouldn't be spinnable to be selfish.  For example, there's theretically no selfish reason why she should give a crap about Rinnosuke being sucked into the outside world, so she theretically lets that good deed go unnoticed), but instead is just to encourage others to hate her because that's what youkai are supposed to be (even Reimu calls her "the worse youkai" in WaHH or... somewhere).

[Sagus]

Just to reinforce Tiamat's answer:

Eirin took another drink.
There was no doubt about it. Whatever labor they went through to get this sake, it was no ordinary venture. This was not some cheap swill that businessmen would drink after hours, incomprehensible babble spilling from their mouths.
It was an exceedingly ancient sake that had been aging for over a thousand years in the Lunar Capital. Yes, it was likely sleeping even at the time when Eirin fled for Earth.
"Wh-What is this...?" Eirin was clearly shaken. She had shown composure without intending, meaning it was the moment Yukari had been waiting for to strike.
Eirin could never forget the taste of that sake. The purity that was impossible to obtain on the impure Earth, and the deep flavor that came from its millenium-long slumber.
"It must have been centuries since you left your hometown. I thought you were becoming distraught with homesickness, so I had some sake from the Lunar Capital prepared for you."
Yukari grinned.
That ominous smile left a deep scar in her mind, something she would never be able to forget. To make those who cannot die question the meaning of living. To make them fear the unknown, what they cannot understand.
That was the true intention behind Yukari's Second Lunar Invasion.

Also, while I agree with basically most of Tiamat's analysis, I still think Yuakari DOES have a darker side to her; her talk with Kasen on how humans in Gensokyo are there purely for the benefit of youkai comes to mind. All of her actions that seemingly favors humans take a different spin if you take that statement seriously, and there isn't really anything that would indicate you shouldn't.

[Tiamat]

Just to reinforce Tiamat's answer:Also, while I agree with basically most of Tiamat's analysis, I still think Yuakari DOES have a darker side to her; her talk with Kasen on how humans in Gensokyo are there purely for the benefit of youkai comes to mind. All of her actions that seemingly favors humans take a different spin if you take that statement seriously, and there isn't really anything that would indicate you shouldn't.

The main issue I have with trusting that at face value is that was something Yukari said to something else as opposed to Yukari's inner narrative.  So I'm not sure if she herself believes that or not.  Me personally, I think it could be either.  That she either honestly believes that (which, if she's Maribel, would imply her mind's gotten really twisted over the millenia) or that she doesn't but is saying it because she's continuing to hide her good side and doesn't want people to realize she does sincerely care about humans.

[Tengukami]

Also, while I agree with basically most of Tiamat's analysis, I still think Yuakari DOES have a darker side to her;

YES THIS IS ENTIRELY MY POINT. She isn't all good, and she isn't all bad. But the bad parts get to me. Let's not talk past each other here. Unless you have all been brainwashed by the Gap Youkai, and I wouldn't put it past her tbh.

Btw, Tengukami, you'd probably expect a response from me regarding your opinion on Koishi but your points are totally valid from what I read, but it's also my appeal to her.

Yeah, that's what I like about this thread. There's little disagreement over how a character is; the disagreement is in our responses to how said character is. It's interesting to see what pushes people's buttons.

[Clarste]

I don't think Yukari is kind, but she's certainly not a troll like the fandom portrays either. Everything she does has some deeper purpose that it incredibly important to her, even if no one else notices. In SA for example, she's the most straightforward and serious partner in the game, because she actually cares about the whole non-intervention treaty with the underground. And she gets super-pissed at Tenshi for violently playing around in her garden (ie: Gensokyo).

As for her conversation with Kasen, it seemed to me that she was trying to force Kasen to consider herself a youkai and thereby control her actions a bit, since the whole "humans and youkai get along peacefully" thing that Kasen is attempting is against everything Yukari stands for.

[Tiamat]

YES THIS IS ENTIRELY MY POINT. She isn't all good, and she isn't all bad. But the bad parts get to me. Let's not talk past each other here. Unless you have all been brainwashed by the Gap Youkai, and I wouldn't put it past her tbh.

Honestly,

Pretty much this, too, is always something in the back of my mind where Yukari's concerned. She really is completely self-interested, and has no compunction with tableflipping people's lives just for larfs.

is VERY different from Yukari doing everything for Gensokyo's or other peoples' own good but being a repugnant personality while doing it.  That's neither "completely self-interested" nor "tableflipping peoples' lives just for larfs"

Yes, there's possibly a dark side in that she's doing it for the youkai, if she honestly believes what she said to Kasen (if), but even then, she's doing it for the youkai and not just herself, which again means it isn't "completely self-interested" nor "tableflipping peoples' lives just for larfs."

Of course, there IS the possibility that she's only "doing it for youkai" just for herself, which is completely self interested, but there's no proof of that, and things like slipping Reimu donations or rescuing Rinnosuke when she could have just let him get stranded in a world he wouldn't fit in seem to indicate to me otherwise.

[Tengukami]

There's this thing called "hyperbole", sometimes done for humoristic affect. A thousand apologies if my speaking in absolutes came across as completely serious in a thread with an OP that isn't even completely serious.

Sheesh! Whatever blackmail material Yukari has on you guys, I suggest you contact a private investigator.

[Tiamat]

There's this thing called "hyperbole", sometimes done for humoristic affect. A thousand apologies if my speaking in absolutes came across as completely serious in a thread with an OP that isn't even completely serious.

Sheesh!

People might actually believe that hyperbole, though, so it needs to be pointed out that it's highly likely wrong (again, there's a small chance for it to be true IF Yukari sincerely believes what she told Kasen AND IF she's only doing everything for youkai for the good of herself, but other evidence elsewhere like her Reimu donations imply otherwise).

Even now,  I'm not sure if you're just saying it's hyperbole now or if you honestly believed that statement before Yukari's explicit ulterior motive for SSiB was pointed out.  The fact that you said "That's a rather generous perspective on Yukari" before people showed it's actually explicitly stated kinda implies to me you actually DID believe that statement (and thus it was not hyperbole), to be really really honest...

[Tengukami]

Sure, let's split that hair to the subatomic level.

I already said earlier on, in a post that you apparently missed, that I do not think she is 100% evil, nor do I think she is Gensokyo's selfless savior. Be my guest if you want to keep flogging this dead horse; to be honest I can't even parse that last sentence you wrote. None of this changes my mind about a character I think has some problems, and who annoys me greatly. Variety, spice of life, etc.

[Clarste]

Anyway, Seiga always felt more like fanon-Yukari than Yukari actually is. Pops out of holes in the wall to torment people for her own amusement.

Which is why she's my favorite character.

[Prime32]

Anyway, Seiga always felt more like fanon-Yukari than Yukari actually is. Pops out of holes in the wall to torment people for her own amusement.

Which is why she's my favorite character.

Plus she's associated with an airheaded undead who eats like a black hole, and came in the same game as a manipulative upper-class type filled with CHARISMA (who sparkles in the daylight even) and a powerful old woman who gets twitchy about her age. I swear, Ten Desires was one big in-joke. :V

[Tiamat]

Plus she's associated with an airheaded undead who eats like a black hole, and came in the same game as a manipulative upper-class type filled with CHARISMA (who sparkles in the daylight even) and a powerful old woman who gets twitchy about her age. I swear, Ten Desires was one big in-joke. :V

Wow, I never realized that.  That's just hilarious.

[Tengukami]

Ha! I may have to give TD another day in court. Seeing that game in a whole new light now.

[CyberAngel]

I swear, Ten Desires was one big in-joke. :V

Hey, didn't ZUN say TD was supposed to bring together older and newer games? It didn't make sense to me before, but looks like mystery solved!

[Darkness1]

Yuuka:

Agreed. I'm not really sure why I still like her as much as I do, since she doesn't appear to be a very likable character. I do think her level of hostility is hyped up a bit too much though, both in fanon (USC) and in PMiSS.

As for Sakuya, I just hope that ZUN will reveal more about her past sometime.

[monhan]

Well, honestly I still like her, I just wanted to play devil's advocate here. And I like her more as a flawed, relatable human than as the perfect saint a lot of fans tend to see her as, so I just wanted to open up that conversation. I think it's pretty easy to look at the same facts that I did and still love her. She's no Tenshi anyway.

Sorry for the late reply, but
WHAT!? Then we're the saaaaame~ What did I write all that for??? Gimme back those 3+hours
And yeah, I also like those flaws, since they make her whole character better like how I've explained. I don't see her as a perfect saint(did I sound like I did?), but I think I still see her as a really good person.
Anyway, I don't mind people hating her for valid reasons, I just want to express my view of her, so all is good. Glad you take it well.

Yukari

And that's why Yukari is my favorite character, with Byakuren in second. Though mine may be slightly different.
A mysterious character. You can say she's evil or she's good depending on how you'd like to see her. In the eyes of everyone who are victim to her schemes, she's a fearsome, trickster youkai sage that should be steered clear off, and in the eyes of almost nobody, except for us readers, she can be a caring, thoughtful individual who wishes for the best of those around her (albeit, heavily siding for the youkai and for herself sometimes) and Gensoukyo, but her complicated way of doing things and solving the problems don't help make others see her in a better light. Oh well, she is the most Youkai-ish of all Youkai after all.
Unless you mess with what she cares about in the first place, she won't mind you doing whatever you want in her paradise, which is why the saying
"Gensoukyo accepts everyone/thing."
is such a meaningful word from her.

Which makes it really interesting to compare or connect her with Byakuren. The two Touhou characters that are so deeply related with the whole youkai thing.
Seriously, these two can't possibly have nothing going on between them. Gensoukyo is way too convenient for Byakuren, even if it's still not her ideal world. I really can't shake the thought that Yukari has some untold past with her. Remember what I said about "external interference" in my long-ass post about Byakuren? Yeah, I meant that as Yukari helping caused her sealing. And it's actually quite a popular theory, from how many times I see it in fanworks. You can see it as her stopping Byakuren, since "humans and youkai get along peacefully" totally goes against Yukari's goal. But with my view of Yukari, who also cares for the human, I can see it as another way she expressed her good will. Like she's thinking, "It's impossible for you now. Wait for me to set things up, and you can try again later.", before she blew her cover and immobilized her to be sealed by the humans later on.
Of course, none of that are backed in canon. All just my speculations (Can you deny it? Who knows). But having that view on these two makes it more interesting for me. And speaking of Yukari=Maribel, not to forget the ridiculous but amusing theory I've just heard recently that Byakuren=Renko. But let's not go over that.

Also, chill out. We're here to discuss the reasons we dislike certain Gensoukyans, either it be their character or their actions. You can give your reasons if you disagree, but you don't have to force others to change their mind if they don't want to. Just explain your views and let them read it. Either they change their opinion or not is not important, it'll still be a food for thought for them.

Plus she's associated with an airheaded undead who eats like a black hole, and came in the same game as a manipulative upper-class type filled with CHARISMA (who sparkles in the daylight even) and a powerful old woman who gets twitchy about her age. I swear, Ten Desires was one big in-joke. :V

Along an animal youkai who shouts one, long, ear-breaking word, and a wicked nympho who is like a certain troll in fanon(perhaps that's why she is what she is in the story).
I'm not going to mention a certain green ghost, and another silver haired girl who is afraid of anything supernatural

[N-Forza]

While I really don't hate any one character in particular, as most everyone has some interesting aspect to them, I definitely don't see the appeal in Flandre, who has nothing going for her outside of 495-year-old innocently sadistic loli vampire. Just not my type of character, I suppose.

As far as those who have more fleshed-out personalities, Eirin comes off as kind of jerk, at least in her treatment of Reisen, or anyone who's not Kaguya, for that matter.

[Clarste]

I find it amusing that canon mostly ignores the fact that Flandre exists. She never shows up when the SDM is involved, for example. She doesn't show up in crowd scenes either. She makes her mandatory appearances in BAiJR, PMiSS, and StB, and then falls off the face of the Earth.

Eirin strikes me as the sort of person who's fiercely protective of her in-group and ruthless to everyone else. She treats Kaguya nice, and based on the way the Watatsukis think of her probably them too. I get the feeling that she just thinks of all Lunarians as her family. Except the damned rabbits, screw them.

[Prime32]

While I really don't hate any one character in particular, as most everyone has some interesting aspect to them, I definitely don't see the appeal in Flandre, who has nothing going for her outside of 495-year-old innocently sadistic loli vampire. Just not my type of character, I suppose.

Well there's her interactions with Remilia which are kind of fun.

As far as those who have more fleshed-out personalities, Eirin comes off as kind of jerk, at least in her treatment of Reisen, or anyone who's not Kaguya, for that matter.

To be fair, Reisen can be kind of an asshole when left without supervision. She's probably the most racist Moonperson we've seen, and the only member of Eientei who views Tewi as an underling rather than a landlord (thankfully for Reisen, Tewi seems to be amused rather than offended).

[monhan]

While I really don't hate any one character in particular, as most everyone has some interesting aspect to them, I definitely don't see the appeal in Flandre, who has nothing going for her outside of 495-year-old innocently sadistic loli vampire. Just not my type of character, I suppose.

As far as those who have more fleshed-out personalities, Eirin comes off as kind of jerk, at least in her treatment of Reisen, or anyone who's not Kaguya, for that matter.

Why yes, Flandre. I like her few interactions and the possible relationship with her sister, but I can't say I'm fond of her either. At least not compared to Remi. Though most of it is because of how the fandom treat her, so that's not to be discussed here.
Basically I don't like brats who think they can get away with everything and even after being told they are wrong, they still don't learn.
Which is why among the brats in Gensoukyo, I give a special place for Nue and Tenshi, one realized her mistakes and try to make amends for what she have done, while the other is a misunderstood, lonely rich kid who only wants some friends. Those kind of children are adorable.

As for Eirin, if we consider her to be older than everyone we know in the Moon, think of her like an elder looking after her grandchildren, and this elder is still nowhere ready for retirement. Of course, she can be kinda dickish to practically most other people, but hey, so is our grandma.
I like that side of Eirin, along with her calm and  collected  demeanor. But that might be influenced by my liking of mature women in general.

I find it amusing that canon mostly ignores the fact that Flandre exists. She never shows up when the SDM is involved, for example. She doesn't show up in crowd scenes either. She makes her mandatory appearances in BAiJR, PMiSS, and StB, and then falls off the face of the Earth.

Probably to show that she really is locked most of the time. But she still has more screentime than several characters...(hint: starts with M)

[Clarste]

Probably to show that she really is locked most of the time. But she still has more screentime than several characters...(hint: starts with M)

...Momiji?

[monhan]

Well there's her interactions with Remilia which are kind of fun.

Now that I've reread it, what exactly was up with that meteor anyway?

...Momiji?

At least Momiji appeared in more than one game and had several appearances in other media.

The other M.

[MewMewHeart]

Now that I've reread it, what exactly was up with that meteor anyway?
At least Momiji appeared in more than one game and had several appearances in other media.

The other M.

Marisa?