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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #420 on: October 19, 2014, 04:05:26 PM »
Needed a stone to clear Thoth and Sophdet. Isis is annoying. 80% she messed up my board. Made me use Echidna. Don't need to hit that hard when you do that every turn.


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #421 on: October 19, 2014, 05:10:39 PM »
dun mess with da best girl (◡‿◡✿)

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #422 on: October 19, 2014, 05:30:08 PM »
Thaws, please don't kill me..... managed to rack up 5 more stones and dumped them in one last rem roll. You already know it.....

Hatsume no Tsubone  :blush:


On a side note, one of the rolls i didn't mention was a Guivre Chimera.... does it have any use?
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #423 on: October 19, 2014, 06:57:52 PM »
On a side note, one of the rolls i didn't mention was a Guivre Chimera.... does it have any use?

Guivre Chimera is pretty cool. If you need a booster for Karin, you could use him. Decent awakenings too, and helps with RCV.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #424 on: October 19, 2014, 10:48:10 PM »
I just got done finished doing Thoth & Sopdet about 17 times. Some losses here and there. Some stones needed to continue when I fucked up.

Thoth dropped on my first try. That was easy.
Then nothing for a while.
Then Thoth again.
Then Thoth again, but then I died when they resurrected and just quit.
Then nothing for about fucking FOREVER.
Then Thoth again.
Then nothing.

and then



11 stones used overall.



You can see how many times I did this fucking garbage dungeon over and over trying to get her.

I'm never doing this again. Not even Mythical for a stone.

Never.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #425 on: October 19, 2014, 11:26:05 PM »
I think if you were using stones, you should have just gone and did Mythical. It's not that much harder. Especially if you're not afraid to stone. I don't know what I'll do with my Sophdet out of letting her sit in box looking cute. If she changed dark orbs, Kirin would look at her, or Izanami if she was balanced. I guess there's Athena, though her awakenings aren't too impressive, i think they could buff her a bit.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #426 on: October 19, 2014, 11:59:46 PM »
Fuck Mythical, it's twice as hard when you're running Leilan instead of Kirin (who is fucking stupid to run in a dungeon that changes away all of her needed orbs). And I think I would have thrown my phone out the window if I had used multiple stones getting ONE Thoth.


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #427 on: October 20, 2014, 12:17:26 AM »
Fuck Mythical, it's twice as hard when you're running Leilan instead of Kirin (who is fucking stupid to run in a dungeon that changes away all of her needed orbs). And I think I would have thrown my phone out the window if I had used multiple stones getting ONE Thoth.

Kirin can do mythical just fine, though. The guys for the most part don't do that much damage, so you can kinda stall for a bit and then oneshot. Isis was annoyingly tanky though. If I was better at matching, I wouldn't have needed the stone. You'd guarantee a drop though. Seeing how many runs ended up with nothing, I think you'd have gained even if you did spend a stone or two on Thoth.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #428 on: October 20, 2014, 12:54:53 AM »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #429 on: October 20, 2014, 02:15:48 AM »
Kirin can do mythical just fine, though. The guys for the most part don't do that much damage, so you can kinda stall for a bit and then oneshot. Isis was annoyingly tanky though. If I was better at matching, I wouldn't have needed the stone. You'd guarantee a drop though. Seeing how many runs ended up with nothing, I think you'd have gained even if you did spend a stone or two on Thoth.

It would have been a massive pain in the ass because Thoth and Sopdet vaporize hearts and fire every other turn. I should know, I ran Leilan and it took fucking forever. Doing it with Kirin would not have been much better and it would have been EVEN EASIER to be orbscrewed.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #430 on: October 20, 2014, 02:31:14 AM »
Thaws, please don't kill me..... managed to rack up 5 more stones and dumped them in one last rem roll. You already know it.....

Hatsume no Tsubone  :blush:


On a side note, one of the rolls i didn't mention was a Guivre Chimera.... does it have any use?

Oh it's okay :V I'll just let you know..

Considering i was kinda hoping for Isis, Bastet, Persephone, Artemis, Sonia or Metatron....  that's some serious trolling skill, game  :V (especially Anubis.... i HATE Anubis...)

I have like two Bastets and Two Persphones :V :V :V :V :V

I know a friend who has no interest in blue team whatsoever, and have rolled three Hatsumes. :V This game would be so easy if trading existed, too bad it'll probably ruin it. :P (Unless we go with the randomly trade one mon system mentioned in this thread :V that'd be hilarious)

Guivre is like a watered-down I&I (pun intended), it's worse than I&I in many ways since it's just a silver egg afterall, but he's usable if you have no other choice I guess.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #431 on: October 20, 2014, 02:51:42 AM »
Oh it's okay :V I'll just let you know..

I have like two Bastets and Two Persphones :V :V :V :V :V


And now we can go burn the RNG god on a stake together....  :]

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #432 on: October 20, 2014, 03:07:42 AM »
It would have been a massive pain in the ass because Thoth and Sopdet vaporize hearts and fire every other turn. I should know, I ran Leilan and it took fucking forever. Doing it with Kirin would not have been much better and it would have been EVEN EASIER to be orbscrewed.

But sometimes the Thoth guys gives poision though, and then you blow your valkyrie/Verche and oneshot them, or at least  Thoth, because lol25x. Even if you don't kill Sophdet and she resurrects Thoth, he has only half health, and then you just do it again. I know because that's pretty much what I did.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #433 on: October 20, 2014, 03:54:09 AM »
But sometimes the Thoth guys gives poision though, and then you blow your valkyrie/Verche and oneshot them, or at least  Thoth, because lol25x. Even if you don't kill Sophdet and she resurrects Thoth, he has only half health, and then you just do it again. I know because that's pretty much what I did.

I neither have Valkyrie nor Verche on my Kirin team.

Thoth blows away all fire orbs every third turn. They do not regenerate fast enough for me to have a good stock of them. Nor does light, because Sopdet takes those out every other turn.

Really you just have to luck the fuck out (like you absolutely did), because the entirely of Thoth and Sopdet Mythical is skyfall luck. And if I'm not sure to heal up absolutely every turn, I would be really pushing it in the HP department.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #434 on: October 20, 2014, 04:09:14 AM »
I neither have Valkyrie nor Verche on my Kirin team.

Thoth blows away all fire orbs every third turn. They do not regenerate fast enough for me to have a good stock of them. Nor does light, because Sopdet takes those out every other turn.

Really you just have to luck the fuck out (like you absolutely did), because the entirely of Thoth and Sopdet Mythical is skyfall luck. And if I'm not sure to heal up absolutely every turn, I would be really pushing it in the HP department.

I can understand Verche, but why not Valkyrie? Don't you use Apollo, he does the same thing. I didn't luck out, as I failed to one shot them after all. The only problem is Thoths thing which as you mentioned is only once every three turns. Valkyrie takes care of anything Sopdet throws at you, not to mention Sopdet throws a lot of hearts at you so stalling isn't that hard. If you need to. Really the only problem is if you hit Sophdet in to her berserk mode which I unfortunately did. Thinking back on it, I probably could have just stalled till Echidna came back up.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #435 on: October 20, 2014, 05:15:44 AM »
I can understand Verche, but why not Valkyrie? Don't you use Apollo, he does the same thing. I didn't luck out, as I failed to one shot them after all. The only problem is Thoths thing which as you mentioned is only once every three turns. Valkyrie takes care of anything Sopdet throws at you, not to mention Sopdet throws a lot of hearts at you so stalling isn't that hard. If you need to. Really the only problem is if you hit Sophdet in to her berserk mode which I unfortunately did. Thinking back on it, I probably could have just stalled till Echidna came back up.

My Valkyrie is not fit for battle and frankly I hate using her since she's 1/50something on skillups. And yes, I do use Apollo instead-- but that still doesn't change the fact that if there aren't enough fire/wood/water orbs on the screen (like there never are against Thoth and Sopdet since they're constantly filling your board with hearts, poison, and jammers). My Echidna shares a similar fate in being insufferable to use and skill up, and only would have caused me problems due to her low HP and attack. It doesn't help that Thoth and Sopdet hit TWICE as hard on Mythical.

Simply put, your trying to convince me otherwise is pointless. I'm not doing it.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #436 on: October 20, 2014, 05:30:17 AM »
Guivre is like a watered-down I&I (pun intended), it's worse than I&I in many ways since it's just a silver egg afterall, but he's usable if you have no other choice I guess.

Man I totally forgot this guy existed.

He's actually an interesting card since he has a prong, so I could see him getting use in places I&I wouldn't. HP is hot garbage though which kill him.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #437 on: October 20, 2014, 09:29:12 AM »
There is something i really need clarified: i just tried the PDX Pink Dragon Rem Simulator out of curiosity and every-single-egg was a Sticker Girl.... and i mean it like "i tried 20 rolls and i got 20 Sticker Girls"
Is it the same with the real Rem Machine during the Pink Dragon event that is coming? Do we have GUARANTEED drops from the mons listed in the event? It seems quite unlikely.....

Since dropping GZL Thumbelina joined Kurone in the "wish list" sooo......  :derp:

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #438 on: October 20, 2014, 09:38:19 AM »
The sticker girl REM is called the sticker girl REM for a reason-- because everything in it, with the exception of whatever valkyries, additional god (which varies, this time it seems to be Ame no Uzume, who kind of works as a Fire-type Metatron but not really as good), or B/L Metatron, was a sticker girl before the addition of the fairy tale girls as well. However, you should never expect to get a Valk/God/Metatron because the drop rate is so abysmally low that you'd be better off getting them from the REM instead.

And for god's sake, you will never need 20+ sticker girls. That's what is most frustrating about it.


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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #439 on: October 20, 2014, 11:51:38 AM »
My New Goals in PaD
-Don't roll the REM until you reach 100 Magic Stones or until you hit Rank 250, whichever comes first.
-Keep farming for +eggs in either OoH or Starlight Sanctuary until you reach 1000 +eggs.
-Only do Descends which you'll reap benefit from.
-Seriously, don't roll REM, man.



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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #440 on: October 20, 2014, 12:21:38 PM »
Where does the farming look good in ABE? So far from my very limited runs it looks like Expert or Master are the only two real contenders, but I haven't decided which yet. Probably Master unfortunately, which sucks because unlike the last time I had to farm a 50 stamina dungeon for skillup material that needs to be evolved this one doesn't drop a bunch of high-level filler and a boss that match the skillup guy in color to get it to max level.

Also, I have a question for FF, or I guess anyone who has insight into this but I know he does. I was previously committed to using Megalodran on my Legendary Seaway farming team, but recently a few other options have opened up. The definite members are Gabriel/Siren/Noah/Cleopatra/???/Gabriel, but now I'm considering using Blueberry Dragon, with its assload of useful awakens, or Ruka, with her general well-roundedness, in the Megalodran spot. Ruka will be skillmaxed, Blueberry Dragon probably won't have any skillups. What do you think? Does either one of those two suit the team better, or is Megalo's short cooldown and high HP the way to go?

Edit: Looks like ABE Legend is the way to go, since apparently Ruka Food can drop evolved from it. The chances aren't great since it's only on one floor and only has a 50% chance of appearing, but it's good enough for me for now.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #441 on: October 20, 2014, 12:34:31 PM »
Edit: Looks like ABE Legend is the way to go, since apparently Ruka Food can drop evolved from it. The chances aren't great since it's only on one floor and only has a 50% chance of appearing, but it's good enough for me for now.

Just did a run of X-Spicy, got an evolved Matilda, which actually did skill up Fuu, so a pretty good start for me. Get running.


Holy shit that is a long maintenance time. Hopes are rising for good results.

We both know what this is. A little later than I predicted it would be, but we know.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #442 on: October 20, 2014, 12:52:15 PM »
-explanation about the Sticker Girl Rem-

Thanks ;) To be perfectly honest when i do roll in the Rem i almost don't even look at the special gods, better to never have too high expectations >_> (man, the shock when i got Ronia and Godin  :V)
And i sure as hell won't aim to have 20 sticker girls! It will be a miracle if i scrounge up the stones for attempting one Thumbelina or Kurone.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #443 on: October 20, 2014, 01:15:12 PM »
Thanks ;) To be perfectly honest when i do roll in the Rem i almost don't even look at the special gods, better to never have too high expectations >_> (man, the shock when i got Ronia and Godin  :V)
And i sure as hell won't aim to have 20 sticker girls! It will be a miracle if i scrounge up the stones for attempting one Thumbelina or Kurone.

I actually pulled on the last one because I was LF>Thumbelina for my GZL team. I did actually get her in two rolls!

I guess it's more "How much of the stuff do you have out of there out of the 5 fairytale girls and the 5 sticker girls". If you have maybe 2 or less, I'd poke it a few times if you're looking for something specific, but generally no more. I'm probably skipping this one just because.

Specials are nowhere near guaranteed, but they are very worth considering, coming from a non-IAP player with 4 special gods. The extras like beachtron and the extra gods may as well be the "specials" for the pink REM, but the selection from the normal REM is so much better. Unless you just really need a sticker girl  or a fairytale girl, save for regular REM.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #444 on: October 20, 2014, 02:09:04 PM »
I just heard that the local guy I've mentioned (complained about) before with the stacked Ronia team did one pull on the last godfest and got a THIRD Ronia.

Huh.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #445 on: October 20, 2014, 02:13:37 PM »
Everyone in MotK who plays this game has a Ronia now. Here I am Rank 175 and still no Ronia. That last Godfest really ticked me off.



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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #446 on: October 20, 2014, 02:34:59 PM »
Everyone in MotK who plays this game has a Ronia now. Here I am Rank 175 and still no Ronia. That last Godfest really ticked me off.

I play here, and I'm higher rank than you, and I haven't got one. Am I not part of "everybody"? Rude.:)

That's not to say I want one, either. I would much rather have either of the other two Sonias or any of the Odins or something. But yeah, still no special gods at all.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #447 on: October 20, 2014, 02:50:52 PM »
Also, I have a question for FF, or I guess anyone who has insight into this but I know he does. I was previously committed to using Megalodran on my Legendary Seaway farming team, but recently a few other options have opened up. The definite members are Gabriel/Siren/Noah/Cleopatra/???/Gabriel, but now I'm considering using Blueberry Dragon, with its assload of useful awakens, or Ruka, with her general well-roundedness, in the Megalodran spot. Ruka will be skillmaxed, Blueberry Dragon probably won't have any skillups. What do you think? Does either one of those two suit the team better, or is Megalo's short cooldown and high HP the way to go?

Umm. Megalodran has the shortest cooldown, which is useful enough. He also reduces Wangren's damage slightly, but I think that's about all he has going for him.
Ruka has the most attack out of everyone, two autoheals (every bit helps), and a 9 turn uber-heal in comparison Berry Dragon or Megalo. Considering that my heartmaker cooldowns were 8/12/5/8, having a 8/9/5/8 set will probably be -more- than enough.
Blueberry Dragon has a blue resist, which I think cuts down Beyzul's damage by 10%? Or 8%? Considering the amount he deals by default, a couple thousand HP every turn is big. But the two row enhances will also help with clearing trash fodder if he can get that awoken.

tl;dr you can literally go with any of those options provided you have the HP for Beyzul's attack
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #448 on: October 20, 2014, 03:00:03 PM »
Everyone in MotK who plays this game has a Ronia now. Here I am Rank 175 and still no Ronia. That last Godfest really ticked me off.

Hi, rank 206 and I don't have one.

Honestly complaining is pointless. Everyone here has been royally fucked over by the REM before. Many even worse than you have.

Chill out, sit down, collect more stones and try again. Your luck will be better next time.

Re: Puzzle and Dragons 13: Always evolving to ensure you're always screwed over
« Reply #449 on: October 20, 2014, 04:01:00 PM »
Everyone in MotK who plays this game has a Ronia now. Here I am Rank 175 and still no Ronia. That last Godfest really ticked me off.

Uh... hi.

Rank 217 and no Ronia or Grodin. Very salty about the latter. Rank 175 was months behind me and I still have neither.

Then again I'm no one so  BV