Defence of the Ancients 2: volvo pls

[helvetica]

I'm saying the item is dumb :b not that it's dumb it doesn't do both.

[TheCrimsonfireball]

Whats the point of Techies aghanism again? All it did is to make those mines around the sight post turn permainvisible. It doesn't really help much gameplay wise since the enemy team will know immediately that there's mines nearby when they see the sign. The enemy team  can always defuse those mines by using decrefy or ghost staff. Its unnecessary and pointless buff.

[Dr Rawr]

it works with remote mines to so it can deny a high ground push

[PX]

Whats the point of Techies aghanism again? All it did is to make those mines around the sight post turn permainvisible. It doesn't really help much gameplay wise since the enemy team will know immediately that there's mines nearby when they see the sign. The enemy team  can always defuse those mines by using decrefy or ghost staff. Its unnecessary and pointless buff.

If they can't see it, they can't attack them from ranged. Easy rax defense

[Zerviscos]

Whats the point of Techies aghanism again? All it did is to make those mines around the sight post turn permainvisible. It doesn't really help much gameplay wise since the enemy team will know immediately that there's mines nearby when they see the sign. The enemy team  can always defuse those mines by using decrefy or ghost staff. Its unnecessary and pointless buff.

You should also realize not all players will immediately realize there are mines around a signpost. For one reason, not every player take the time to look at an enemy hero's inventory that often. It's a big surprise for them when they see a signpost and just think it's a joke to be there to begin with. Once it sets off, players will be more cautious around signposts. Which could act as a distraction for the most part, and will find alternative routes around the signposts, only to find mines in none-signposted areas.

It's not really about what can you do with this new aghs update with a single hero. It's about how you use it in a new team meta.

[Dr Rawr]

roshan is no longer safe lol

[Raikaria]

Morph agh's only stops you CASTING ults. Passive ults like Coup de Grace still work.

[trancehime]

I'm saying the item is dumb :b not that it's dumb it doesn't do both.

And yet...

roshan is no longer safe lol

Pretty much.

[TheCrimsonfireball]

You should also realize not all players will immediately realize there are mines around a signpost. For one reason, not every player take the time to look at an enemy hero's inventory that often. It's a big surprise for them when they see a signpost and just think it's a joke to be there to begin with. Once it sets off, players will be more cautious around signposts. Which could act as a distraction for the most part, and will find alternative routes around the signposts, only to find mines in none-signposted areas.

It's not really about what can you do with this new aghs update with a single hero. It's about how you use it in a new team meta.

  Alright, but its still not much different from a non-aghanim techies and i don't think making mines invisible can change his meta. Which is why I consider this a  pointless buff.

Morph agh's only stops you CASTING ults. Passive ults like Coup de Grace still work.

Speaking of Morph, does Wraith king  ult work?

[helvetica]

And yet...

lolz

Alright, but its still not much different from a non-aghanim techies and i don't think making mines invisible can change his meta. Which is why I consider this a  pointless buff.

It's not pointless, it's a nudge towards making techies viable in pro games by giving him a viable end game place. It's not that big of a nudge mind you, since he can only protect one lane and it's a 3 minute cloak on a 6 minute cooldown but hey, it's something. I imagine IceFrog is being extra cautious about buffing techies because he could get way OP way fast.

Taking a hero from useless to maybe a niche pick is fine, taking a hero from useless to first pick/first ban is not as good :b. There's already enough first pick/first ban heroes and this patch didn't help !

[Zerviscos]

  Alright, but its still not much different from a non-aghanim techies and i don't think making mines invisible can change his meta. Which is why I consider this a  pointless buff. 

If you think that's the case, then you'd better prepare yourself with the new patch then, right after when pro streamers and pro teams use him in tournaments.

[Pesco]

I find the most overlooked point of this patch is to encourage you to click on enemy heroes and look at their items/buffs/debuffs.

[PX]

I find the most overlooked point of this patch is to encourage you to click on enemy heroes and look at their items/buffs/debuffs.

You DON'T do that?

[trancehime]

You DON'T do that?

you'd be surprised

  Alright, but its still not much different from a non-aghanim techies and i don't think making mines invisible can change his meta. Which is why I consider this a  pointless buff. 

Speaking of Morph, does Wraith king  ult work?

#1 - You would still get Aghanims on Techies even before this improved upgrade because it would make his Remote Mines a valuable defensive and farming tool, even more so than it already is. All this does is make Aghanims an even more lucrative pick up for Techies. Making his mines impossible to detect would add an extra level of mindgame to his kit.

#2 - Hybrid does not copy ultimates.

[Raikaria]

you'd be surprised

#1 - You would still get Aghanims on Techies even before this improved upgrade because it would make his Remote Mines a valuable defensive and farming tool, even more so than it already is. All this does is make Aghanims an even more lucrative pick up for Techies. Making his mines impossible to detect would add an extra level of mindgame to his kit.

#2 - Hybrid does not copy ultimates.

It does copy ultimates; you just can't cast them. I've seen a Hybrid proc Coup de Grace. It's even on DotaCinema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DBIZdIBil0 - go to 2:28; I think it's the 4th hit on Pudge.

Which means passive ultimates work; such as Warpath and Coup.

I doubt Reincarnation works; since upon death you turn back into Morphling, and that ultimate is 'cast'.

[Dular]

Bristleback, Drow Ranger(OP with Morph), Phantom Lancer, Ogre Magi, Kotl(It's always on with Aghs, so..), Abaddon may auto-trigger, and Phantom Assassin.

So some heroes that are exceptionally good with hybrid.  If the illusion-hero has an Aghs upgrade, I guess that Morphling gets the agahnim upgraded passive automatically right?  Like with Kotl and Ogre Magi.

[Zerviscos]

Alchemist on team. Buys all aghs for all support/ganker.  :yukkuri:

[Dr Rawr]

safe lane alch farms aghs while mid lane tiny rushes ac


edit: updates out now

[Zerviscos]

Compendium is up.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

The teamspeak stack has already spent about $200 on compendiums and earned some coins.

[PX]

The teamspeak stack has already spent about $200 on compendiums.

About 40 minutes ago

[Amraphenson]

#GabenTookOurMoney

[yuyukos]

Hey, its me ur wallet. mercy pls.

[Zerviscos]

Level 250 Compendium costs like around 100USD.
Late TI5 and Post-TI5, items from Compendium be like, less than 5USD. :V

[Raikaria]

I'm sitting here with my Lv 1 Compendium perfectly happy with earning points the hard way to see how well I do.

Also played 2 games, won 2 games. 1 Shadow Demon game [I picked him to try and get Ag's lategame to Break their PA] and 1 DAZZUL game [Where two members of my team actually complimented me for saving their butts with Grave... and one of those called me out in a good way on buying back after dying to a Pudge Hook and turning a fight in the top lane.]

Also yeah, I brought back for ~330 gold with a 15 second death timer to save my teammate and get our team 3 kills. I didn't even hesitate. Which surprises me. Sadly I got 2 of the 3 kills, but that was Poison Touch ticks on a fleeing guy and Shadow Wave bounceing off the Prophet who's life I saved. Hell; I never see anyone buy back that early in the game.

Also props to the Prophet for realising I had brought back to rejoin the fight so he Teleported in to help Wraith King too. Also doubt this whole thing would have worked if the guy I was laneing with wasn't Wraith King; that dude with 2 lives; giving me and NP time to get there.

I made a good play. In Dota. This is rare.

Weirdly enough the guy who said well done to me was our Earthshaker who died distracted by watching toplane. I guess he looked there after I brought back [Probably thinking 'Why on earth is Dazzle buying back?'] and got jumped by Ursa.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

First set of TI5 immortals released!
I got all of them, excluding the golden version of Luna's shield. Good enough.
Some of these look super cool.
Now I'm looking forward to the next set.

[Raikaria]

I have discovered another hero I am not godawful at.

Nyx.

I pick him because the enemy picked OD and Skywrath, and I made them pay. We were losing, but then I got L 11 and managed to pick off Skywrath/OD/Lion repeatedly.

Also I got Scepter. Which is cute. Nyx isn't that great in a teamfight but when he can mana burn spam while safely underground on an OD and Skywrath hitting them both for ~600 every 4 seconds, it's cool, and the Impails don't hurt. Also a way for me to buy time while their BKB's on Viper and Razor wore off while I Mana Burnt down one of their Int heroes.

Also obligatory NYX NYX NYX. I must have made OD so mad since lategame whenever he tried to farm I showed up. I even picked up BoT's jsut to hunt him better.

[[Y]oukai [J]esus]

The teamspeak stack has already spent about $200 on compendiums and earned some coins.

Update pls : ^ )

Also once the bug for gifting is fixed i'll giving out like the 14 spare boxes I will get in total ye

[Dular]

I think the teamspeak stack is on average level 150, so that'd be... What, 600$ so far?

Also, I don't think I've seen compendium points drop a single time since it came out, for anyone.  The drop rate is probably absurdly low, which is basically saying "To level up, giff monies."

[Bardiche]

I should buy a Compendium.