Defence of the Ancients 2: volvo pls

[Bardiche]

Is that a joke patch, or have I been out of the game for so long? :V

It's an "oh right, DOTA2, that game we updated two months ago" patch.

EDIT: After playing League now, I set all my DOTA keys to Quickcast. I can't live with clicking anymore!

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Is this even DotA?

[Dular]

-Mud golems now have ranged stun

In other words, Doom now has a ranged stun.

-Damage block no longer blocks physical spells

It did that before?  Wow, I didn't know physical spells sucked.

-Hex no longer disables passives

Lion and Rhasta super nerf.

-Voidstone in side shop

Finally!


.... Woah, that's... A lot of hero changes.  Nevermind reporting thoughts on those.


Edit: Th...The changes... Ahhhnn~~

[trancehime]

the following heroes are now top-tier again:

Alchemist
Lifestealer
Prophet
Dark Seer
Invoker
Yakiro
Aghs Lone Druid

[yuyukos]

You get an Aghanim's! And you! And you!

[PX]

Overall grade of 6.84: LOL/10

[Bardiche]

Not that excited, surprisingly.

[[Y]oukai [J]esus]

Spell reduction? In my doto?

Let's go Nyx Hassan Assassin

[Raikaria]

If I recall Volvo did say they wanted pretty much everyone to get a scepter, that's why most heroes have voice lines for it.

So many heroes removed from Ability Draft because you cannot have more than 4 abilities in AD. I know most people don't care about AD but I do. R.I.P Lifestealer; Morphling; Nyx and Tusk

Alchemist is dumb now. Give [Permanent] Alch Ult to carry = GG. There's a reason why Chemical Rage is Auto-pick in AD. Because on anyone who dosen't have Alchemist's godawful stat gain it's absurd. And it's outright broken on any ranged character. I've played enough AD to say 'VOLVO PLZ NO' to this Alchemist change. You could literally see a support/roaming Alchemist living off Quadrupled Bounty Runes and ganking with Casks and buying nothing but boots and Sceptre to give to carries.

These new items. Actual ways to make casters basic abilities scale later in Doto. I'm a little scared of the CDR item on characters with high amounts of C.C; like Shadow Shaman.

Also all these 'can be consumed' items giving power beyond 6 items which honestly isn't too hard for carries to hit in longer games. Or you can consume the item and then pick up an Aegis.

Also my favorite part of the notes:

Can now be used on to eat Wards [Side Note: Volvo grammar masters]. Eating a ward heals for double the amount, 230 HP over 16 seconds [Because Wards Taste Better]

Attacking a ward can no longer miss (same for Sentry Wards)

Not sure if to celebrate or cry.

Radiance Burn now causes affected enemies to have a 17% miss rate

Because the fire sears your eyyyyys

Divine Rapier

    Damage increased from 300 to 330

Volvo plz

[TheCrimsonfireball]

Random question: what would happen if Rubicks steals Doom's devour then eat a neutral creep?

[Raikaria]

Oh wait Alchemist's Ag's dosen't give them Alchg R; it gives them their own Ag's Upgrade.

Rubick has a slot for these sorts of situations. [Same goes for skills like Spirits] I think he loses the creep buff when he loses Devour.

[helvetica]

Nyx has evolved lurker aspect and will now shut down your 2rax bio push with prejudice.

[Raikaria]

I just realized that Lifestealer is now a Russian Doll.

Inside X is Lifestealer. Inside Lifestealer is Y!

[helvetica]

I was thinking more of the fact he could eat someone about to die then rage TP out like a really messed up Wisp relocate xD

[Raikaria]

I was thinking more of the fact he could eat someone about to die then rage TP out like a really messed up Wisp relocate xD

Next level:

Eat someone
Infest Wisp
Wisp Tethers someone else
4 man relocate

[helvetica]

Who needs Pitlord when you can do that shit. Tack on someone with improved boots of travel and you can move the entire team at once.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Next level:

Eat someone
Infest Wisp
Wisp Tethers someone else
4 man relocate

This isn't next level.
Next level is:
Morphling becomes Na'ix.
Morphling consumes another hero.
Na'ix consumes the Morphling.
Na'ix infests into a fourth hero/wisp.
Wisp tethers the fourth hero and relocates.
Pitlord 2.0

[helvetica]

Can't use ults with morph's aghs

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I know that.
Otherwise I would have said that Morph infests another hero, removing the need for wisp.
Consume isn't an ult.

[helvetica]

Do we know that? I know it's an aghs upgrade but does it pass onto Morphling since he has an aghs too (or if the ally has one)? This new "you get an aghs and you get an aghs and you get an aghs" meta hurts my head.

[Dr Rawr]

we know that

[helvetica]

http://fat.gfycat.com/UnfinishedTatteredAplomadofalcon.webm

Yeah I saw that.

[helvetica]

https://youtu.be/-EGtjbJYC7s hahaha meepo reflects spell steal, can now cast spell steal on all of his clones. Next level trolling.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

That is actually overpowered if meepo manages to get his hands on any decent nuke or stun. Good thing nobody plays rubick.

[helvetica]

It requires Rubick to target the Meepo (or other hero, Meepo just makes it more OP since he gets 5 copies of spell steal) with the lotus buff on, which is a visible pink shield. I don't see it happening outside of very very good timing. If anything, the lotus buff will be very useful to prevent ravage/blackhole or other gamechanging ult steals. You put the shell on, hop in and cast your ult, and you have a good window to get off another spell before Rubick can safely steal.

The fact that it's bugged and has no CD is likely gonna get patched ASAP though. I mean, it's why the test client exists :b.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

It doesn't actually matter since meepo is overpowered anyway but in the case that it does happen the game is pretty much over right then and there.

In what universe would lotus stop black hole steals? Black hole is channeling yo and most Rubix will follow up with an immediate lift anyway.

Also of course you still steal ravage because you're aiming to kill them with the counter ravage. That and heroes like tide tend to lack a mana pool.


but the thing is I doubt spell steal being stolen was meant to be a thing anyway and will probably be patched out

[helvetica]

But the steal doesn't land though does it? Since the spell is reflected doesn't it cancel it? Or is it simply just recasting it again and not a full block like linkens?

The item description kind of confused the crap out of me.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

It doesn't block the spell at all, it only causes it to hit the caster as well.

[helvetica]

Oh, weird. Well that's dumb :|. I guess they'll make it so spell steal ignores it.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Why is it dumb? It would be completely overpowered if it blocked the spell as well. Especially since it's even cheaper than linken's.