I think what it's going to come down to is that I'll have to try different things and see what works, but the numbers in this game are fairly opaque despite technically all being visible, and getting big enough sample sizes to really compare one team to another it a chore. I was hoping someone would be able to authoritatively tell me everything there is to know about blue healers, but I suppose given how uncommon they are that's not likely.
Even if you think about I&I having two rows, going for rows altogether doesn't really payoff until you have five or six I think? To that end, Ruka does have a row enhance and some auto heals to somewhat compensate for less RCV than Siren.
My team isn't really a "row team" exactly, it's just a team that uses rows to complement my "turn the board blue and try to nuke the boss" strategy to offset my lack of attack. But yeah, the final version of this team does ideally have 5-7 rows.
If you're willing to drop possibly -many- stones, you could grab Sandalphon's enhance ability, but he doesn't have any blue row enhances and his default cooldown is hefty.
I'm really not that interested in Sandalphon at this point. The long cooldown is offputting. Maybe that's a mistake, but he seems mediocre.
Something I think you could pull off better than I can (for not having Blue Valk on my team) is a Beyzul-swap team. Gabriel/Valk/Ruka/Echidna/Beyzul/I&I gives six row enhances, a water enhance that applies to most of the team, 12x attack for a final burst. Echidna may or may not be necessary, but having that delay to maintain full HP as Beyzul would be great.
Oh, interesting. Yeah, I can kind of see that working. Definitely worth looking into. I've been experimenting with Gabriel/I&I and that seems like an interesting version of that. It seems like it would take a lot of understanding of when the best time to do the swap is though. Would benefit greatly from Sun Quan as well, and I kind of don't want to start farming Legendary Seaway until the stamina boost. But interesting idea.
I don't see any skillups for Ruka about to hit NA anytime, so... Siren will always be so superior in that regard.
Agreed, she's going to have to eat skillup monsters, and that's a long way off. I assume they'll end up in the pal machine some year, but that's even further off. Poor Ruka.
This one's hard for me to say anything for because it's a Healer team, and I usually do see Shynee on those.
Though, I remember when chinagirl ults were just coming out and there was all this hype about using them with king slimes. I tried woodsie burst with Leilan only to find out that it absolutely sucks, and I can output way more damage overall AND survive better without him. It turns out my reasoning was completely right because I never see King Woodsie on any suggested R/G team.
Healers don't really have as much ATK nor do they have any leads that immediately give you a perfect board to bomb the enemy with *twice*, so take that advice how you will. Overall I think that if you can just outright survive many hits, it's better to just try and kill the enemy over a few, well-placed turns than just trying to bank everything on one shot, and this is easier for Healers if they can get the HP because there is never an RCV issue.
Yeah, that all makes sense. I think what it comes down to is "this team wants to have Echidna on it" because she works so hard on the "grind the opponent down over several turns" team. I need the panic button in case I get orbtrolled on hearts or I need a buffer for the "below X% health nuke" that bosses tend to have.
I'm not looking for this team to be top-tier or anything, I like it because it sorts of works with what I have and it's sort of unique, but for my own mental order... Is there anything at all it has that Ronia can't do better? She has the great recovery AND the repeated nukes. I've never played Ronia, but what small thing can I do that she can't? I guess the heartmakers in case of an emergency theoretically could give me more consistency, but she
can run Drawn Joker. The lower cooldowns mean I could handle very early threats more easily maybe, but she has that mountain of skillboosts...
