I would lynch BT over NNR simply because of the fact that he went along with the ITP=miller thing, which is terrible and which I can expect from Raikaria (crazy logic) and NNR (barely reading) but BT? Nope.
The gist of it was that NNR's claim and Dorian's claim were really unlikely to coexist, and NNR coming out with the claim in the first place more or less implied that he thought Dorian was bullshitting, ITP or not. I still don't get why all the fuss was raised back in page 22 (and is still being raised what) - I think Rai and NNR actually did a good job of explaining why we all went with it (it was more than just "claims"), but if there's particular parts that baffle you I could try and explain them. Maybe it's mostly a perspective thing. At the very least, the entire thread unanimously agreeing that the QT guys are idiots, when I'm not seeing it, makes me think that. Is it because of the late D2 posts? Because I barely skimmed those.
I don't know what went on in the QT exactly, but the issue is that it seems like he didn't put any effort into reigning in the madness.
I've been inactive in general, if I'm getting you here.
There's also the Promised Land Raikaria keeps dangling in front of our noses, which I don't get. If it's such a good role and BT wants to avoid Scum knowing about it, why would he tell Raikaria and NNR? I mean, if it's so important no one publicly knows, I'd think it's best no one knows at all, because there still exists a chance Raikaria is Scum with Neighbouriser powers. It just doesn't make sense for a secretive BT to spill the beans to someone of unknown alignment.
It's the reverse, my thread comment was just an instinctive reaction to Raikaria talking about the role. There was no reason to talk about it, so that's what I said. And I don't think Raikaria is scum.
So. I've mostly read the last third of the thread because that's the part I missed more or less.
Zak's posts suffer from convenient scumhunting syndrome. His actions in that timeframe are breaking down Oarfish and generally flowing with what's going on in the thread (NNR wagon, claimstuffs) when he's posting, both of which are attractive if you can't find something deeper as scum.
I admit, after reading and catching up on day three, my bucket list is starting to expand rapidly now.
I'm not seeing it. His promise to do ISOs hasn't actually covered the ground-less-treaded like I thought it would (Moridin, SB, Massaca? Polly even?) so the "effort" presented in the thread seems sourced from the need to -have something- instead of finally getting active and bringing opinions, because we'd then probably get those other opinions too instead of just the convenient ones.
He also has a feely opinion shift on Serela because they both had trouble forming reads, which I innately disliked because I disliked that entire sequence. Serela going from one read to the other until finally settling on NNR because of lack of scumreads is really unsettling because of the ease in which the scumreads got terminated. I'm trying to recall weak Serela town games but I don't think that's helping me reach a conclusion. He was doing fine earlier, so I guess it might actually be situational. Serela and friends just need to look at a slot and see how the evidence holds up all together.
rawr claim obviously puts him down a lot of priority notches, but then his play is driving me insane. The NNR vote was probably worse than Serela & Zak's in how it comes from nowhere - see his post directly preceding it about narrowing down scumreads (so interested in lynching scum and not ITPs) and it just feels like he has no regard for his own posts. In a way that goes beyond just not paying attention to the game, because you also have stuff like:
BT - i cant really remember what hes posted ill assume its good because other people are town reading him -sheep-
I'm pretty sure BT is lurk Scum also. Can't remember the game name but it was BT, huh what, and no name as the Scum team.
Bullshit indeed. >____> He's making up his own thoughts. There's no way that's town. Even if I go to lengths to imagine scum rawr scenarios, though, it's stuff like "there's a town WATCHER and rawr claimed tracker and got lucky" which I'm pretty sure I don't want to pursue. Very conflicted.
Those are the things that shot up to me. I'm gonna go read the Morrisons, SB and Polly now.
My take on NNR right now is that I wouldn't mind the lynch but it'd mostly be curiosity because I think there's more details, or he's harmful altogether, because I still find it hard to believe his role and Dorian's would coexist. The thing that puts me off is what I said at the start of the post - all NNR has done points to how he does have a Dorian-like role. The only room for doubt is what he sprinkled in earlier in the thread about how he thought he might need to lynch Town Miller Dorian for his wincon too. I think I'll only really go with it if it's forced consolidation.
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