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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #930 on: April 10, 2015, 11:36:08 AM »
People like DotA support because it's a lot easier to play than the other roles.
Like all you need to do is put down wards and wander around with a tp scroll for ganks/counterganks while not dying too often (the wards you place help a lot with this) early game then let your team carry you to victory.
As opposed to the offlane where you're probably getting about as much farm as the support except you're expected to make plays, mid where you actually need to outplay your opponent and pray that you don't get ganked, or the safe lane carry that is worthless if you can't farm and worthless even if you can farm since you're just going to get cc'd down anyway.

You know; and you have to try to not die when most of the other characters in the game can oneshot you or close to it; have massive level advantages; and you have no items, and your mana is an issue. Because if a carry blows you up you're feeding them they go mad and murder your whole team.

Also DotA supports have to deal with the middle finger called BKB.


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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #931 on: April 10, 2015, 12:33:29 PM »
git gud.

It's not really all that hard to not die as long as you don't get caught out by yourself. If you get caught out as any hero, you're a goner.
Losing teamfights is a completely different story, if that's what you're talking about.
Also I hate when supports in DotA complain about having no gold/items because they buy wards and shit. It's like 150 gold every 7 minutes isn't going to break the bank even if you're not getting farm, learn to manage your reliable/unreliable gold.
As for BKB, you just need to learn to deal with it and take advantage of how strong you are before the enemy team manages to farm up their BKBs.

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #932 on: April 10, 2015, 01:49:09 PM »
Oh, man, let me tell you about playing support before Season 4. I loved lighting everything up with pink wards just because I can, but there simply not much else to it, and if I got behind, I was pretty much screwed. Sona was the best back then.

Now that I can't do that, I actually have to fight, which would be okay except no one I play with seems to know how to play with/around a Sona when lategame comes around. So I win lane hard only for it to be wasted. 20% win rate in ranked play this season.

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #934 on: April 10, 2015, 03:54:07 PM »
Now that I can't do that, I actually have to fight, which would be okay except no one I play with seems to know how to play with/around a Sona when lategame comes around.

I hardly know what I'm doing, how to play Sona lategame? :P

Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #935 on: April 10, 2015, 08:24:07 PM »
I hardly know what I'm doing, how to play Sona lategame? :P

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #936 on: April 10, 2015, 08:43:11 PM »
20% win rate in ranked play this season.

idk your sample size but something like this points more towards the common element(aka not the champions, or teammates but the player)

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #937 on: April 11, 2015, 01:15:43 AM »
Fair point. I do tend to play too far forward even when it's not laning phase anymore, so that's something to fix.

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Looking back at what data I do have (5 game sample size), I've consistently outwarded the enemy support, only had a KDA ratio below 2 once, and what deaths I do have mostly occur in the lategame where I'm too aggressive when trying to make plays or even just initiate. If I do get behind, it's because I roam inefficiently and miss out on lane EXP. Wut do.
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #938 on: April 11, 2015, 06:22:41 AM »
well support has changed a lot since i mained it, but some general tips:

in solo queue you have to be able to lead people regardless of what role you play. if you are better than the people at your current rank, then you need to be able to consistently bring your teammates to your level so you can beat the enemy team together. solo carrying from any role is incredibly harder than it used to be.

ward and ward numbers are kind of like cs. you can see a guy lose with 500 cs and you can be like "wow he farmed so well, he must have been so strong blah blah blah" but in reality he did nothing but afk farm and not really pressure anything. wards are the same way in that each ward exists somewhere on a sliding scale of usefulness. for example, if a jungler clears his krugs and then someone wards that camp with a trinket ward, it's going to exist on the lower end of the usefulness scale. the jungler won't be in that area again until after the ward expires.

however, the common wards in tribush and lane bushes etc. are pretty much always useful in laning phase because they give you vision on people who are threatening, and also tell you when you aren't being threatened by said people. late game, when it comes to warding you want to try and look ahead. where do they want to be? where does your team want to be? what is the next objective in contention? and then you want to set up vision around that area.

placing wards is only one half of the vision game tho. it's also about denying vision, which requires smart trinket use and smart pink warding. like if you throw a pink at dragon and deny the vision, get the dragon, and then they come in after you leave and take the pink, that's still a good pink ward b/c it got the team an objective. you can also use upgraded trinket to clear out vision in a whole area, but it's still useful even if you don't find wards. if you sweep a contested area and find nothing around, then you've also found a path in which your team can maneuver into where ever you looked and set up a death bush

also, post laning phase you should basically never be alone as a support. if you can't get your team to listen to your calls and maneuvers, then you still have to stick by them. you should only be by yourself to ward an area, and even in that case you should still have someone following you as back up. try to use the fog of war to position near and ward a bush before you walk through it. moving cautiously through enemy territory with backup should allow you to get vision more safely more often.

re: initiation, communication is key. especially in lower elos(note: idk what rank you're in b/c PH has no lolking equivalent). you have to ping a ton and make sure that people know that you want to initiate, who you want to do it on, etc. you also have to be aware of the power spikes in the game(ex. corki/ezreal triforce completion, IE/PD on carries, etc.) and make sure to attempt to capitalize on your team's spikes while avoiding the enemies. i won a game like literally an hour ago b/c the enemy team got massively ahead and then just farmed out their power spike and became useless for the rest of the game.

i would give more direct advice but without a lolking type site, i can't creep on your account and see what you're doing exactly lol

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #939 on: April 11, 2015, 06:09:56 PM »
i've been on NA for almost 2 years now whoops

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #940 on: April 12, 2015, 12:21:41 AM »
Got to play mid for a change. Picked Veigar.

At some point my ult base damage was 1600 + 80% enemy AP, and the highest Mresist they had was 66 on Thresh. There was Ezreal, Shaco, Lux, Thresh and Twisted Fate.

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #941 on: April 12, 2015, 01:25:12 AM »
the prophecy has been fufilled

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #942 on: April 12, 2015, 03:47:26 AM »
http://puu.sh/haB04/d610dbe67e.jpg raitaki approves of starting spellvamp on literally everyone on urf

it's gr8
especially if the other team doesn't have any stuns
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #943 on: April 12, 2015, 07:17:22 AM »
the prophecy has been fufilled

Well it's not like anyone expected much else. Although it is hilarious how literally the same thing is happening as last split.

Next TSM will win; Impact will beat Liquid and Liquid will be 4th.

Also Liquid were up 2-0 when I went to sleep. I still expected this.
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #944 on: April 12, 2015, 07:35:04 AM »
tbh i really hope liquid makes 3rd place b/c a team that is plagued by a "curse" is really boring

but it's already been too long so they're gonna get in their own heads and fuck up the loser's match probably

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #945 on: April 12, 2015, 12:53:02 PM »
tbh i really hope liquid makes 3rd place b/c a team that is plagued by a "curse" is really boring

but it's already been too long so they're gonna get in their own heads and fuck up the loser's match probably

Really? I think a 'cursed' team is fun. I take pleasure in the suffering of Curse fans and watching them always say this is the event. That said; I get the same twisted pleasure out of every time Doublelift's ego runs or CLG go on about a Golden Age or whatever the split's equivalent is.

Curse is more than TSM/C9 finals every split anyway. It's great fun waiting to see how Curse ends up 4th. Biggest dull note of the NALCS is how it's so predictable. You can literally not watch a single game and predict the top 4 and be right:

- CLG will always choke and fail to live up the the hype
- Curse is always 4th
- New promising team is 3rd [EG: LMQ. Impulse by default will be this]
- TSM/C9 final

Hell; this split even the matches and the outcomes have been the same. Curse 3-0 CLG; then face C9 and lose from 2-0 up then go 4th. Meanwhile TSM face the promising challenger; beat them; and go on to ace C9 while the challenger knocks Curse to 4th.

It's sad how accurate this is. Everything changes in rosters; but nothing changes at all in the playoffs.
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #946 on: April 12, 2015, 04:15:03 PM »
imb4 TIP beats TSM

Not too likely, but I don't really want to see tiss'm in the finals anymore.


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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #947 on: April 12, 2015, 04:22:01 PM »
Like any other DOTA2 noob, I've come to learn that when I don't support, I love champions like Poppy and Veigar who are great at bursting something down. Small surprise I hate my only ADC, Sivir, since she seems more tailored towards DPS. I'll get Vel'koz at some point who looks to be a really fun burster too, but I lack an adc in case I ever need to adc. I want to pick up Kassadin at some point too, so I have at least one Assassin and Kass was fun when he was free week.

I was eyeing Ezreal for his unique AP/AD combo making me dream of Manamune and Spellblade masteries, but are there any ADCs who are pretty great at bursting?

Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #948 on: April 12, 2015, 04:29:19 PM »
I was eyeing Ezreal for his unique AP/AD combo making me dream of Manamune and Spellblade masteries, but are there any ADCs who are pretty great at bursting?

Graves or Trist. Corki is some instants

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #949 on: April 12, 2015, 04:33:07 PM »
ADC bursts are more dependent on item builds tbh, since except for oddballs like Corki and Ezreal their skills don't contribute much dmg. Good items for bursty ADC are Infinity Edge, Trinity Force (don't get this as your first item except if you're Corki or Lucian), Last Whisper, and Youmuu's. Some ADCs that have better innate burst before items roll in are Twitch, Lucian, Tristana and Graves. Ez is good as long as you can aim, though in my experience you'd want to stick to either AP or AD since LoL itemization isn't very great for hybrid builds.
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #950 on: April 12, 2015, 06:57:35 PM »
Holy shit I'm retarded. 8D

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> in my experience you'd want to stick to either AP or AD since LoL itemization isn't very great for hybrid builds.

Someone advised me to go Manamune then Archangel's Staff on Ezreal, since AS gives Mana, which translates into more AD while giving a shield and more AP. Would you recommend something different then?

(FTR: That friend gave me the advice of Goddess's Tear->Trinity Force->Manamune->Archangel's/Armour item->MORE DAMAGE)

So either AD or AP, right? Does the Runeblade mastery (or w/e makes you do damage equal to x% of AP with attack) fit well with AP Ezreal, and just forget Manamune then? Or is AS+Manamune valid?
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #951 on: April 12, 2015, 07:29:02 PM »
Manamune is good on Ezreal because of the Blue Ezreal build, which consists of Ionian Boots of Lucidity/Iceborn Gauntlet/Muramana and other blue items that I completely forget right now.

The build is good for poking and kiting, but that's about it.

Archangel's Staff is great on AP Ezreal but horrible on AD Ezreal. Although AP Ezreal mostly wants bursty-poke so it would be lich bane, luden's echo and about as much AP as you can possibly muster (along with penetration so sorc's shoes, liandry's torment, void staff thoug not abyssal since the range of the aura is too low for the poke)

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #952 on: April 12, 2015, 07:53:57 PM »
Runeblade's not that good a mastery, it's mainly good for helping mages cs with autos. It has minimal impact on every build, so you shouldn't count on it. Same thing with the autoattack/spell mutual dmg boost masteries, masteries each have pretty small impact so you pick ones that fit your build/playstyle, not the other way around.

If you're building manamune then AS, you have to charge them both one by one, and with all likeliness you won't finish until late game. It's better to just build damage items normally; building mana items just to give manamune/AS more damage is never worth it (unless you're playing Ryze, since your skills scale with mana).

And yeah what Sacchi said, muramana isn't a good item for bursting, if you want to use it might as well go for a kite build and get IBGauntlet instead.
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #953 on: April 12, 2015, 07:59:07 PM »
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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #954 on: April 12, 2015, 08:02:43 PM »
Holy christ this series is as close as yesterday's wtf

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #955 on: April 12, 2015, 08:06:34 PM »
Oh yeah, don't forget.

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #957 on: April 12, 2015, 08:21:43 PM »
my god that game

that series

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #958 on: April 12, 2015, 08:35:18 PM »
Hell; this split even the matches and the outcomes have been the same. Curse 3-0 CLG; then face C9 and lose from 2-0 up then go 4th. Meanwhile TSM face the promising challenger; beat them; and go on to ace C9 while the challenger knocks Curse to 4th.

It's sad how accurate this is. Everything changes in rosters; but nothing changes at all in the playoffs.

that's why it's boring. playoffs are supposed to be exciting, but with so many "curses" going around then the outcome becomes super predictable and that makes it boring.
Graves or Trist. Corki is some instants

trist isn't really bursty. you have to auto 5 times for the E to explode and her R is on a moderate cooldown

Someone advised me to go Manamune then Archangel's Staff on Ezreal, since AS gives Mana, which translates into more AD while giving a shield and more AP. Would you recommend something different then?

(FTR: That friend gave me the advice of Goddess's Tear->Trinity Force->Manamune->Archangel's/Armour item->MORE DAMAGE)

i would advise no longer listening to this friend's league related advice lol




also that fifth match holy shit

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Re: League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH
« Reply #959 on: April 12, 2015, 09:13:06 PM »
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trist isn't really bursty. you have to auto 5 times for the E to explode and her R is on a moderate cooldown

Eh gross, new trist sounds like trash. What's the public opinion been like?