League of Legends Thread XV - aww lookit the cute little BLARGHARGH

[Iryan]

I'm so hyped for WEEWOOWEEWOORaka, but I can't help but feel that 10% MHP per cast is pretty heavy. On the plus side, the cooldown is really really short now, so her overall power remains to be seen.

Well, they said that the numbers are completely arbitrary at this point and will undergo heavy changes. The kit and concept in general is what should be primarily looked at.

Personally I think the starcall health restoration needs to include % hp or % missing hp, so that you are at least not -punished- for building some hp. I don't want to be punished for building a locket, a zeke's, and a sightstone.  :derp:

[Think Komachi with a Rifle]

Also it's karma for CLG who thought they were 2gud4NAscrimmage [And thus knowing their enemy more!] and went to Korea to train; even throwing away their final week at the LCS. Turns out probobly getting stomped for a few weeks by Koreans dosen't help.

Either that or the general Korean scene [Not the top] is actually worse than the mid NA scene. From what I've seen that is not the case.

The best practise is one where you are challenged but not crushed.

Also: HotshotGG hints that 'change is coming' and he's known the issue for a while

Maybe he'll finally bench that egotistical Doublelift who constantly can't really perform to his level of bluster. [Also is this your fault HSGG if you KNEW all the answers but didn't act?]

Also Regi's calling out Montecristo on his whole critiquing other teams and acting like CLG is god.

From what monte has said about this. Practicing against Koreans wasn't the main motivation.
Much more was, shit was going on in the gaminghouse and they needed to have a change of scenery for a bit. With some there is no point being in NA, we aren't dealing with this and are just going on tilt.
 Also monte being on another continent does cause problems for dealing with player issues.

He defiantly will bench players and has said in the past that roster changes are nearly always good.

[gammaraptor]

We know Curse is gonna lose against C9. Then they'll lose the 3rd place game and come 4th.

The curse of 4th
I think you've forgotten this is Season 4.
Therefore this must be their season
Crs wins worlds.

[Iryan]

It's happening again. Just as with the coming of Elise and Lissandra...

When Azir arrives, everyone will be from Shurima.

[Cadmas]

Azir looks like a heimerdinger with mobile turrets and talks about shurima too much.

[Ryuu]

It's happening again. Just as with the coming of Elise and Lissandra...

When Azir arrives, everyone will be from Shurima.

i hated this at first, but imo it makes sense to consolidate the lore because there are so many people from fuck-all nowhere with no real motivation to be doing anything

[Raikaria]

It's happening again. Just as with the coming of Elise and Lissandra...

When Azir arrives, everyone will be from Shurima.

Actually the retcons were done significantly in advance.

i hated this at first, but imo it makes sense to consolidate the lore because there are so many people from fuck-all nowhere with no real motivation to be doing anything

I think only a few champions are like that now. Like Ryze. Actually Ryze might be pretty much the only one now who we neither know where he is from or his motivations.

Nidalee is from the Plague Jungles still but it seems Rengar is too now and Kah'Zix kinda roams there and I THINK Wukong is from there too but lives in Ionia now so they're making that area larger.

====
Meanwhile Orianna is being 'fair and balanced' in TSM vs LMQ.

[Iryan]

i hated this at first, but imo it makes sense to consolidate the lore because there are so many people from fuck-all nowhere with no real motivation to be doing anything

You can argue that, except that to me a lot of the new lore tends to feel forced, as well as generally not very well written. I mean, I am not a writer, but there tend to be things and phrasings that just generally bug me... ah well.  :derp:

[Raikaria]

If Curse are gonna break their Curse of 4th place now is the time to do it so NA actually represents NA.

And then they can come 4th in Worlds.

Also TSM vs C9 final WE TOTALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE

[Suikama]

also if they lose then they're still 4th

[Raikaria]

Rivington - 'Yasuo is the worst champion to have blue buff on'

No; Yasuo gets reduced C/d on wall at least. It's worst on Rumble where it's an outright DETRIMENT

[hyorinryu]

Rivington - 'Yasuo is the worst champion to have blue buff on'

No; Yasuo gets reduced C/d on wall at least. It's worst on Rumble where it's an outright DETRIMENT

I wouldn't call it a detriment. You don't have to use your moves off cooldown, being at 100% isn't always a detriment, and having a shorter cooldown on your ult is pretty nice too.

[Garlyle]

I wouldn't call it a detriment. You don't have to use your moves off cooldown, being at 100% isn't always a detriment, and having a shorter cooldown on your ult is pretty nice too.

Yup.  It's up to you if you push yourself into danger by overusing them.

In other news, I found out that I can Nautilus Jungle and also he jungles startlingly fast.  That W.

[Raikaria]

I wouldn't call it a detriment. You don't have to use your moves off cooldown, being at 100% isn't always a detriment, and having a shorter cooldown on your ult is pretty nice too.

Except when you are in a teamfight with Rumble or chasing; the 6 second cooldown for Flamespitter is just right to keep it up without overheating yourself. Provided you stagger your Harpoons and are faster than your enemy you can chase fown a lot of champions like this and zone them from the wave. Standard procedure of Rumble is to activate Flamespitter off cooldown because you are chasing after people.

However cutting that period means when you are doing this you just overheat yourself. It plays against the habits and comfort zone of Rumble and makes heat management more difficult. And it's not just Flamepsitter. Your Shield and Harpoons are off cooldown faster as well; and you want to use those off cooldown to chase too.

Also The Equalizer's cooldown is generally good enough as it is except sometimes at Rank 1.

Also the way I like to use Rumble in teamfights or all-ins is weaving in and out. I go forward while Flamespitter is on; and back off to minimise damage when it's off. CDR  disrupts my flow.

CDR on Rumble makes heat management harder and disrupts the general play patterns of Rumble. I play Rumble enough that my pattern of weaveing in and out with Flamespitters is almost second nature as it comes off C/D. I feel notably disrupted when I have Blue. That's why I consider blue a detriment to Rumble. If blue made his heat cooldown faster I'd actually be fine with it since it lets his rhythm stay the same. It would also probobly be stupidly OP.

Blue doesn't hurt Yasuo or disrupt his gameflow; and helps two of his skills; not one.I'm a massive speaker for the importance of CDR.

I'll even get CDR boots on champions like Sivir some games [Her base AS is awful anyway and CDR boots lets her use Richochet more often and generally gives her MORE DPS than Zerkers]. On most mages I'll get 40% CDR; even if it's not normal [EG: I play Ahri more as a kite/poke champion than an assassin]. I love champions with a 'CDR overclock' mechanic like Karma. But on Rumble? I keep from CDR like the plague.

I guess it's less of an issue for Eym or other really; really; really high level Rumble players, but for me? I hate getting blue. And I do consider myself above average as Rumble.

===

STOP GIVING COP CORKI.

Also why is it every time I see Cop doing well it's on an ADC starting with C? [Caitlyn or Corki]

[Sahgren]

I'd just like to point out that you're picking an entirely pedantic argument and basing it around "Because I'm not good enough at the character/game" to support it. Is what the casters said really that important?

[Suikama]

4 T H B O Y S

[Aba Matindesu!]

clg rotated the ktb to curse apparently

[Ryuu]

I'd just like to point out that you're picking an entirely pedantic argument and basing it around "Because I'm not good enough at the character/game" to support it. Is what the casters said really that important?

this is a much more eloquent way of saying what i was about to argue

also raikaria i can't believe that you are trying to argue that having full potential faster is worse just because you can't stop yourself from spamming spells off cd

[Iryan]

Meanwhile Orianna is being 'fair and balanced' in TSM vs LMQ.

Just finished watching. Considering she won when she snowballed and lost when she didn't... looks like any other tournament-viable midlaner to me.  :derp:

[Iryan]

Just finished watching. Considering she won when she snowballed and lost when she didn't... looks like any other tournament-viable midlaner to me.  :derp:

Edit: So according to Vesh, the new Soraka passive doesn't actually give you bonus AP equal to 20% of your bonus armor + mr. It actually subtracts 20% from your bonus armor & mr and adds that amount to her AP instead.

Huh.

[Garlyle]

Edit: So according to Vesh, the new Soraka passive doesn't actually give you bonus AP equal to 20% of your bonus armor + mr. It actually subtracts 20% from your bonus armor & mr and adds that amount to her AP instead.

Huh.

It's... interesting.  I guess I get why - you'd be disincentivized to buy HP on her since her heal cost rises with HP anyway, and this sort of helps her not become this unkillable monstrosity if she does go defensive as well by mitigating her capability to get defensive somewhat without outright punishing her, and also ensuring her heal scales at least a little on that option.

If that makes any sense.

It'll be interesting to see how she actually plays.  All these reworks coming up - Cassiopeia, Soraka, Viktor are being talked about in the short term, and we know Sion's got one well on the way, Gangplank's got one well underway apparently (Given we're getting ult tweaks soon-ish and this is apparently changes from his rework), and Urgot and Poopy are hot topics for the soon future, so...

[Mr. Sacchi]

And then there's the Fiora and Darius reworks who are on the bottom of the list but have been confirmed to be a thing.

Riot seems to be reworking every other champion nowadays, personally I don't know what to think about this but they haven't exactly screwed it up completely yet (except skarner, but then they fixed it so...)

[Suikama]

This final game is so close holy shit

wow TSM has finally done it

[Raikaria]

*Goes to sleep with C9 ahead*

*Wakes up with TSM winning*

This keeps happening.

[Aba Matindesu!]

tfw lustboy was just passed over like a slice of chopped liver

[Raikaria]

I feel like pointing out that of the 15 players representing NA on starting rosters at Worlds; only 7 of those are actually from North America. LMQ is 5 Chinese players; and TSM has 2 from EU and 1 Korean.

That is depressing.

[triangles]

Riot has once again found a way to part me with my money: Rammuscuddle ward 2cute4me

[Patorikku]

Riot has once again found a way to part me with my money: Rammuscuddle ward 2cute4me

That's not how you spell Amumu ward!  :V

Riot-senpai, please, my wallet can't take much more!

[EyeMtheStron9est]

Short post on the rumble thing for blue (I can't click links here atm I think).
He's 'better' with it but it does throw off a tempo if you are used to tapping a button over and over to do your spells (like myself and guessing rai does it as well).
Yasuo would be worse with it overall due to cds not working on all his spells or whatever.

Five more months about before I get to play. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Iryan]

So I tried out something silly. Bruiser-Veigar. The idea of course being that if you build tanky items, you are still getting your permanent bonus AP from your Q, and your R can still nuke enemy APs very hard.

The game was a bit weird, since the enemy botlane was Yasuo + Nocturne. The enemy Yi also started building trolly towards the end, selling his feral flare and buying a hurricane. Still part of the idea worked: Building defenses early helps with safely farming AP for Q, lichbane helps translate the bonus AP into damage, and you are still useful later on in the game due to DPS, baby cage, and I was still able to 100-0 the enemy fizz in one combo (though he didn't buy any MR, so yeah).

I am not entirely sure about what Items to build. The first big question is naturally: chalice or tear. And the rest then depends on that (like whether or not to build a frozhen heart).
As a third Item I would naturally want a Lichbane (or a Nashor's but that seemed even crazier) to make use of the bonus AP, and otherwise a good amount of resistances and HP. Cooldown reduction is of course also important. Lastly I was thinking of whether or not Rylais would be a good idea later on since you have a very spammable single-target damage spell to keep somemone permanently slowed.

I know the idea is generally very silly but still.  :3