Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.

[hyorinryu]

As soon as Uriel is on a respectable enough level (and I'm rank 132) I'll put him in place of MVD, he's essentially a better version of MVD anyway, though I didn't really have that option until very recently.

Vesta Cave gives me problems because it forces me to use a shiva friend (goddamn you ifrit and your stupid high defense) and that leaves me rather vulnerable especially because I have to lose Ares's orbchange for it, the RCV is a massive problem yes (my own fault for going F/L on horus, really)  but tyrannos's x2 rcv mitigates that enough that I can make do when you take echidna's delay into account, I mean, assuming I don't get completely and utterly orbtrolled several times in a roll, which unfortunately seems to happen often enough for it to be a problem.

I don't think you need Shiva. It's only 71k defense. I think you can just use Ares and MVD to blow up Ifrit. If you can get 4 fire combos and 1 other combo, he's done.  Between Ares and MVD, I think you can manage that. This is assuming you have a max level Ares with an awakening or two though. If he has +eggs, it gets easier.

[trancehime]

The problem with this move is that newer players are the ones that will eventually become long-timers as well, then you consider that I'm pretty sure there are many players like me who have simply decided to make a goal and go for it really hard (hello healer team)  the amount of goals a player has is decreased substantially before they beat starlight sanctuary, since they'll be forced to either invest painfully heavily in their teams and make specific teams to tackle these dungeons or get extremely lucky (or just whale really hard) at the REM to cheese them with Ronia or something.

I mean, I think everyone here has an idea of just how much I've invested in my monored and even Vesta Cave is giving me problems - let alone starlight sanctuary, I doubt too many players are different in that regard.

As bullshit as SS is being for most people; your message completely misses my point - newer players have to go through more hurdles than the established playerbase already because descends containing monsters that are good to have for lower ranked players to start with such as Hera, Sieg/Cu Chu, and others, may run a risk of being taken out of rotation if this is really going to be a thing which happens.

And saying how you're having trouble at your point in the game solidifies my point further - newer players will have to either resort to whaling the REM to get a good lineup straight off the bat or spend extra months weeks grinding out levels in order to brute force through the original content since older descends will get locked out if they get placed after SS.

Overall I don't understand why you're trying to undermine my criticism

[Thaws]

While they're only added new normal dungeons after SS, you also have to note that those were all 88/99 stamina dungeons that are surely more difficult than a Legend descent like Hera.


http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140903_muracolle.html

Gungho doing mura collections outside of godfes again. :colonveeplusalpha:
Hatsume... T__T and green valk @_@!
I knew I shouldn't have rolled in the previous godfes.


http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140827_anke_monster.html

Kodama and Green Chasers got the 10th Questionnaire guys.
I thought Kodama was really easy to get since you can farm Gaia Expert (30 stam) and they dropped most of the time for me. I got my Sasuke 3 skill lvs pretty easily. I'm not complaining that it's not Neneko though, it'd be the best if that can wait till I got my own Hatsume. Haha :V
Good for Meimei owners though, I'm surprised the Meimei fanbase won over the LMeta fanbase. Thought LMeta had a larger following.

Edit: Murako tweeted that there will be a special "Expert" difficulty with increased drop rate to celebrate this being the 10th questionnaire dungeon!!
Seriously, lucky Meimei owners.  *jelly*

[Mr. Sacchi]

Overall I don't understand why you're trying to undermine my criticism

Oh, I'm not trying to undermine it! Forgive me if I came out that way actually, I was pretty much agreeing with you.

I should probably stay out of these things in the future, I have troubles expressing myself sometimes :derp:

[trancehime]

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140903_muracolle.html

Gungho doing mura collections outside of godfes again. :colonveeplusalpha:
Hatsume... T__T and green valk @_@!
I knew I shouldn't have rolled in the previous godfes.

I /should/ reach my 50th day during the Mura Collection (as it lasts a week) so you think it's worth for me to dump some stones into pulling from REM for some?

Maybe I can get a Valk?

Oh, I'm not trying to undermine it! Forgive me if I came out that way actually, I was pretty much agreeing with you.

I should probably stay out of these things in the future, I have troubles expressing myself sometimes :derp:

It's okay, everyone's telling me I have it better for my rank so I guess I shouldn't complain so much, but it's still frustrating to hear.

[OverlordChirei]

Isis now evolved. Now I get to try and attempt to punch out the twinlits again on friday.

[Yukarin]

so guys apparently noah's coming.

how will you guys tackle her?

[The Greatest Dog]

I'm planning on rolling
R/G Suzaku
Godin
Sakuya
Hera
Gabriel
[combo/rainbow lead maybe possibly Isis?]

At least, for Legendary. I have two gravities for Noah's massive HP at least (which I'm probably going to burn just before she does her Ark Judgement thing). Even if I use Gabriel's active to heartmake, I can still proc R/G Suzaku if I have both red and green orbs to match, so it's not a huge loss.

but I need an Isis friend.

[Edible]

Gonna wait until next time.  I'd like a Noah but I have other priorities atm.

[Suikama]

Isis all the descends BV

[The Greatest Dog]

Yo Suikama I hear you have an epic Isis

[commandercool]

so guys apparently noah's coming.

how will you guys tackle her?

Not at all, need Gabe skillups. Not going well. Keep dropping unevolved Cockatrices over and over and over. And I probably can't beat her right now anyway.

[trancehime]

according to padherder



:colonveeplusalpha:

[Chaore]

so guys apparently noah's coming.

how will you guys tackle her?

i can't hear you over fairies.

Also if you want to be mad about permenancy, realize this means they have their hands on the dungeons to fuck around with them again!

WHOS READY FOR 12034312328 MULTI HIT ZEUS

[OverlordChirei]

so guys apparently noah's coming.

how will you guys tackle her?

leilan x isis masterrace

I was actually thinking of doing this same thing, but I obviously don't have as pro subs.

R/G Leilan
Dark Golem MK3 (HP stick and SB, active might help marginally on Blast Dragon)
Bastet (HP stick and active for waves 3 and 4, but I would have to survive 11 turns beforehand and sweep in three turns)
Angelion (Heartmaker)
Ecchi (Standard delay)
Twinlit Isis FL

Bastet might be swapped into the leader spot - might be better overall, since there closest thing to trash in this dungeon are the pengdras which have almost 300k HP, so 3.50x controlled burst is probably ineffective here for sniping them out. I /might/ try to stuff Zeus in there somehow, but I think I can do this without the grav.

[Suikama]

Yo Suikama I hear you have an epic Isis

Do I not already have you on my list? :derp:

[The Greatest Dog]

Do I not already have you on my list? :derp:

Evidently not.  :ohdear: I just sent a friend request, though, if that's alright.

[Thaws]

I /should/ reach my 50th day during the Mura Collection (as it lasts a week) so you think it's worth for me to dump some stones into pulling from REM for some?

Maybe I can get a Valk?

It's okay, everyone's telling me I have it better for my rank so I guess I shouldn't complain so much, but it's still frustrating to hear.

It is said the 6 star stuff in muracore is harder to roll. Green Valk works for bastet but Dark valk is more of a dark team thing than healer team thing.
As for the other 6 star stuff, they have a really good selection this time tbh.
Though the main attractions are riders and ninjas, so ask yourself if you need any of them. I'd say riders aren't too useful for you right now, but ninjas are all 5cd orb changers with row and skill boost so they're nice to have.

Btw, I recall you only get stones at 30th, 60th, 100th day before the gifts every 50 days pattern begin.

[trancehime]

It is said the 6 star stuff in muracore is harder to roll. Green Valk works for bastet but Dark valk is more of a dark team thing than healer team thing.
As for the other 6 star stuff, they have a really good selection this time tbh.
Though the main attractions are riders and ninjas, so ask yourself if you need any of them. I'd say riders aren't too useful for you right now, but ninjas are all 5cd orb changers with row and skill boost so they're nice to have.

i'll yolo roll then

[commandercool]

I just had that moment nobody wants to come up against in a mobile game. I was on the last floor of Mystic Blue Dragon on Legend, on a run that would rank me up if successful. It was also the first run out of the last four to actually drop an evolved Cockatrice. Antikythera was at low health, just above 30%. The plan was to hit him as hard as possible while matching at least one set of pink orbs to make sure I had the HP to take a Constellation Blast before I popped King Shynee to finish him off.

Mid-combo I got a call.

It caused me to drop and fail to match any heal orbs. My HP was close to full beforehand, but not enough to actually take the hit without healing. Fortunately for me my auto-heal kicked in and I was left with 400 HP. If I had gone in with one of my non-+297 Idunn I would have died. Goddamn. :V

[Thaws]

I just had that moment nobody wants to come up against in a mobile game. I was on the last floor of Mystic Blue Dragon on Legend, on a run that would rank me up if successful. It was also the first run out of the last four to actually drop an evolved Cockatrice. Antikythera was at low health, just above 30%. The plan was to hit him as hard as possible while matching at least one set of pink orbs to make sure I had the HP to take a Constellation Blast before I popped King Shynee to finish him off.

Mid-combo I got a call.

It caused me to drop and fail to match any heal orbs. My HP was close to full beforehand, but not enough to actually take the hit without healing. Fortunately for me my auto-heal kicked in and I was left with 400 HP. If I had gone in with one of my non-+297 Idunn I would have died. Goddamn. :V

Airplane Mode. :V

[trancehime]

After murakore

Sieg and Cu Chu will be removed from REM

wahaha~

[Mr. Sacchi]

Legend-tiers of the Legendary Dragons, Mechdragons, Sky Dragons and Ancient Dragons will be a part of the permanent Descended thing.

Don't the mechdragons have chaser invades? Doesn't that mean that getting chinese girl/lmeta skillups is a relatively simple affair now?

The same should apply to the mystical beasts, since they're also invades on the Sky Dragon/Ancient Dragon dungeons.

Also, the confirmed Descendeds for the permanent thing are Hera, 2 Heroes and Zeus.

Also also, massive cost and max cd reductions for literally anything with a "dragon" in its name, including reducing starter dragon min cooldowns to 8(9 for light/dark), skydragons to 2 (3 for light/dark), 12 for mechdragons (13 for light/dark) and pretty much every other dragon not named "zaerog" or "fagan".

Also also also, new Susano/Orochi uvos confirmed to not have completely retarded evo mats (blue fruit for orochi and green mask for susano + 1 of the jewels for each). Susano uvo has x3 atk/x1,35 rcv to attacker types and orochi has x4 attack for dragon types while below 80% (basically dmeta for dragon types)

[OverlordChirei]

Don't the mechdragons have chaser invades? Doesn't that mean that getting chinese girl/lmeta skillups is a relatively simple affair now?

Have you actually TRIED farming for these guys? It is definitely not easy by any means of the word. And then you have to go evolve them.

In other news 14 feeds to toytops and still no skillups

I think toytops is gonna be that one mon for me

[Jq1790]

Wait, so people who can't do Legend on those dungeon types are gonna get totally screwed over by this, aren't they?

[OverlordChirei]

Wait, so people who can't do Legend on those dungeon types are gonna get totally screwed over by this, aren't they?

iirc it's possible to dual-resist all the mechdragons and OOParts dragons(are ancient dragons these or the whiskey ones?) with a few tweaks, so if anyone just wanted them really badly for some reason the option is there and "cheap" to obtain.

Moreover this means God Canopus and Demon Hadar are now available all the time for anyone that wants to field them, which is pretty cool!

I guess also if the dungeons are exactly the same, later-game non-IAP people like me now have a slightly more reasonable option to chuck stamina at every day to skillup their chinagirls, which is also kinda rad since mechdragon dungeon exp is alright.

[Mr. Sacchi]

Have you actually TRIED farming for these guys? It is definitely not easy by any means of the word. And then you have to go evolve them.

Okay, bad choice of words, what I meant to say is that it should be easier since now you don't have to wait for these things to come up and can just go farm them whenever.

Unless GunHo messes up the ratios to "compensate" for the fact that they're permanent dungeons now.

[OverlordChirei]

Unless GunHo messes up the ratios to "compensate" for the fact that they're permanent dungeons now.

Assuming these are carbon copies of what we just recently experienced, the invade rates for chasers will be 4% or something, so I'll just consider it a one-off thing I could get in addition to xp grinding.

I should also probably mention that on Legend, I think the chimeras have a 100% drop rate fully evolved, meaning it is also decent to skillup your starter or late bloomer dragons. Considering the cd "buffs", I think they might be urging people to farm these.

[hyorinryu]

Never complaining about my skill up luck again.

[triangles]

So I told my sister to get this game to play while waiting for her sprinkle points or whatever to regenerate in Kwazy Cupcakes Candy Crush, after more rerolling in the background of other things yesterday than I care to admit to, I scored a Pandora as she wanted something cute and no, Fairlio is cute but don't start with a Caterpie please.  Is that a good starter or should I try and hunt down something else?