Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.

[OverlordChirei]

So I thought it was more or less impossible% to get invades on expert but this game DECIDES THAT I AM WRONG AGAIN

[commandercool]

So I'm on the fourth floor of Sandalphon, the one with Raphael. Seriously, how do I do this? This seems impossible. I hacked away at him, full power, spending like ten minutes on every screen figuring out how to get 6-7 combos, used I&I's actives and hit seven or eight combos on every turn of it, used Echidna to get more turns, and he's still at like half health with two turns to go. And Sandalphon himself has massively more health but I also have to deal with healing. King Shynee is still up, so I can use it to burst him to an extent, but it seems like this is going to take like 5-6 stones minimum. Is my team just just complete shit and I shouldn't be attempting Mythical descends ever, or is 6-7 combos really weak, or am I just supposed to plan on dropping a ton of stones on these? Help internet, don't know what do. :wat:

[Mr. Sacchi]

I think the general gist of it is "get higher levels" or "more plus eggs".

Worst case scenario, change up your team.

I guess Mythical Descends are always like that though.

[Thaws]

7 Combos is definitely good enough.

What does your team look like? You're going to need some short cd orb changers here to kill Raphael and get them back up for Sandalphon again. (You don't happen to have a dark monster on the team... right?)

Sandalphon changes your dark to light orbs 70% of the time, so it helps you do more combos and clear away orbs for more chances of heart orbs dropping, but you'll have to make sure your hp and rcv is high enough, since you'll have to be stalling for at least 5 turns.

Actually, you might need to worry about accidentally dropping him under 50% and him binding all your gods.
I actually bring an Amaterasu with me when doing Sandalphon because I keep accidentally getting 10 turn binded.

As a non-iap player, I generally don't recommend using stones for continues when you can definitely do better if you tried again after a month or two.
Sandalphon's definitely not an easy Mythical, though not the hardest ones.

[commandercool]

7 Combos is definitely good enough.

What does your team look like? You're going to need some short cd orb changers here to kill Raphael and get them back up for Sandalphon again. (You don't happen to have a dark monster on the team... right?)

Sandalphon changes your dark to light orbs 70% of the time, so it helps you do more combos and clear away orbs for more chances of heart orbs dropping, but you'll have to make sure your hp and rcv is high enough, since you'll have to be stalling for at least 5 turns.

Actually, you might need to worry about accidentally dropping him under 50% and him binding all your gods.
I actually bring an Amaterasu with me when doing Sandalphon because I keep accidentally getting 10 turn binded.

As a non-iap player, I generally don't recommend using stones for continues when you can definitely do better if you tried again after a month or two.
Sandalphon's definitely not an easy Mythical, though not the hardest ones.

Because I'm in the dungeon still I can't check my exact stats, but this is roughly my team:

Blue Valkyrie (max level, ~+180)
Echidna (level 96)
Siren (~level 70, max skillups)
Archangel (the blue/white one, ~level 80)
King Shynee (Max level)
I&I friend (Max level, +297)

Everything ultimate evolved and fully awoken, no skillups at all aside from Siren. No dark monster.

Once again I can see how having Valkyrie and Echidna skillmaxed would be a HUGE help here, but the one day since I had a good enough team to actually farm Valkyrie skillups when they were available was a day when I had trouble getting helpers for it (since it was a rarity-restricted dungeon), only dropped a couple, and got nothing from them. Until Poring Tower comes back or we get the Naga dungeon I can't do anything about that at all. And my success rate for skillups so far has been beyond abysmal (I've been trying to get a skillmaxed Rowdy Samurai Goblin for Tengu, and so far my record is 1/35), so even those might not do anything.

I suspect Archangel isn't really good enough to be on this team, but I can't think of a readily available non-REM replacement for her. That team spot really, really wants  Amaterasu, Metatron, or Ceres in it but I don't have them and probably won't.

I'll probably let Raphael kill me eventually. I've been trying to figure out what my odds of being able to keep up my healing against Sandy are, but I really have no way to deal with him once I&I gets bound, so the 1-2 stones it will take me to even get that far definitely aren't worth it. Wasted 100 stamina on this dungeon today which isn't great (got orbtrolled against the Unicorns the first time), but at least I learned something sort of. And got some good combo practice I guess.

[Chaore]

It's more team there, I'd say.

Most of your cards don't benefit from Blue Valk+I&Is rows, and half of the team doesn't really benefit from blue damage up and your siren+Blue valk wombo combo.

Ecchi+Archangel need replacement I'd say, Hatsume and Gabriel are good options but whoops REM.

Sandalphone is just kinda outta your league right now. Don't worry, I've not beaten him either. >>

[Thaws]

Because I'm in the dungeon still I can't check my exact stats, but this is roughly my team:

Blue Valkyrie (max level, ~+180)
Echidna (level 96)
Siren (~level 70, max skillups)
Archangel (the blue/white one, ~level 80)
King Shynee (Max level)
I&I friend (Max level, +297)

That's not a bad team at all. The problem is that there's not enough blue mons to take advantage of Blue Valk's blue orbs and I&I.

If you have no hope of killing Raphael, might as well use King Shynee right now and see what happens at Sandalphon, even if you can't last 17 turns for another Shynee, it'd still be insightful to see how your team's hp and rcv fare against the onslaught of about an average of 10k damage per turn.

Blue valk is your main blue orb maker and really makes things easier if you have her maxed. Good luck next time poring tower comes around.

Ecchi+Archangel need replacement I'd say, Hatsume and Gabriel are good options but whoops REM.

There's also Sun Quan.
Ruka is a REM but he'll have a much better chance of getting her than the other options.
There isn't really that many options for blue healers sadly. :/

[commandercool]

It's more team there, I'd say.

Most of your cards don't benefit from Blue Valk+I&Is rows, and half of the team doesn't really benefit from blue damage up and your siren+Blue valk wombo combo.

Ecchi+Archangel need replacement I'd say, Hatsume and Gabriel are good options but whoops REM.

Sandalphone is just kinda outta your league right now. Don't worry, I've not beaten him either. >>

Yeah, that seems fair. It's far from an ideal team. Obviously. My other options for water healers non-REM are... Carbuncle, Cockatrice, and Water Sprite. Woo. I guess I could pile more Sirens on there, but that doesn't really do anything.

I don't have a ton of experience with the REM yet, but isn't it still prohibitively implausible fishing for particular gods even on their godfests? It seems to me right now like planning to ever put anything from the REM on a team is pointless, because it's so incredibly unlikely that it could be years before you get one without IAP. Godfests just effect too many things, so even on a correct godfest and a correct gala it doesn't seem that doable. Is that off base? Is this team just undoable for me?

I let Raphael kill me, and maaaybe next time this rolls around I can take another stab at it. But even then Sandy doesn't seem that useful most of the time the more I look at him. I might have been able to stall Gabriel to charge him up had I had him here, but effectively getting two more turns on Raphael would have been a tiny drop in the bucket.

That's not a bad team at all. The problem is that there's not enough blue mons to take advantage of Blue Valk's blue orbs and I&I.

If you have no hope of killing Raphael, might as well use King Shynee right now and see what happens at Sandalphon, even if you can't last 17 turns for another Shynee, it'd still be insightful to see how your team's hp and rcv fare against the onslaught of about an average of 10k damage per turn.

Blue valk is your main blue orb maker and really makes things easier if you have her maxed. Good luck next time poring tower comes around.

I popped King Shynee and kind of dropped the combo. I didn't put that much planning into it because I knew it wasn't going to matter, and even then I botched a diagonal and only got like four combo out of it. Barely a scratch, never got to Sandalphon.

Do we have any kind of rough estimate as to when Poring Tower will be back?

There's also Sun Quan.
Ruka is a REM but he'll have a much better chance of getting her than the other options.
There isn't really that many options for blue healers sadly. :/

Oh yeah, Ruka would be pretty good. Her cooldown is uninspiring, but she's still probably pulling way more weight than Archangel even without a skill at all. I assume that REM will be coming back around relatively soon, since we should be getting Beach Meta soon-ish and it'll have to come with.

[Chaore]

There's also Sun Quan.
Ruka is a REM but he'll have a much better chance of getting her than the other options.
There isn't really that many options for blue healers sadly. :/

Thought I was forgetting someone. Yeah Ruka is fine too, but we have no idea when Pink REM'll strike next.

Blue Healer is super specific, and some of the main staples (Blue Valk and Hatsume) never goes on godfest too so... It's basically it's main weakness.

I don't have a ton of experience with the REM yet, but isn't it still prohibitively implausible fishing for particular gods even on their godfests? It seems to me right now like planning to ever put anything from the REM on a team is pointless, because it's so incredibly unlikely that it could be years before you get one without IAP. Godfests just effect too many things, so even on a correct godfest and a correct gala it doesn't seem that doable. Is that off base? Is this team just undoable for me?

Dear god, is that what we make this game sound like?

[commandercool]

Dear god, is that what we make this game sound like?

That's what the math looks like. I don't have a firm grasp on how REM physics work, like I said, but from what I've seen in my very limited experience godfest-related gold eggs seem to be about 1/4. Godfests look like effect ten things, so you have a 10% chance of getting the specific one you want out of that ~1/4 chance of getting a Godfest monster. A gala seems to bump that up, but not by a ton. That's a bad ratio, isn't it? Have I just been seeing weird pulls? This is based on maybe 30 pulls from five or six people over a few months, so I could be way wrong. But if it's not that unlikely should I be trying the one tonight for I&I or Gabriel? I have 33 stones.

[hyorinryu]

Dear god, is that what we make this game sound like?

That's pretty much how I play it yeah. I don't IAP though. I mainly look for fests where I'd be fine with at least 6-7 of the gods there.

[Chaore]

That's what the math looks like. I don't have a firm grasp on how REM physics work, like I said, but from what I've seen in my very limited experience godfest-related gold eggs seem to be about 1/4. Godfests look like effect ten things, so you have a 10% chance of getting the specific one you want out of that ~1/4 chance of getting a Godfest monster. A gala seems to bump that up, but not by a ton. That's a bad ratio, isn't it? Have I just been seeing weird pulls? This is based on maybe 30 pulls from five or six people over a few months, so I could be way wrong. But if it's not that unlikely should I be trying the one tonight for I&I or Gabriel? I have 33 stones.

I mean just, yeah that sounds hopeless but it's not nearly as bad as you made it sound there. As long as you're devoted to searching for the cards instead of spread-shotting, it's not impossible to pick up specific god cards when you see them come on.

If you feel like chasing blue healer then actually yeah, this might be the time to roll basically.

That's pretty much how I play it yeah. I don't IAP though. I mainly look for fests where I'd be fine with at least 6-7 of the gods there.

This ultimately is what I do too, however. While it's a bit greedy, the best option for rolling is to consider all options and what you could roll, and how you could use and grow from the other rolls NOT what you're looking for.

[OverlordChirei]

I don't have a ton of experience with the REM yet, but isn't it still prohibitively implausible fishing for particular gods even on their godfests? It seems to me right now like planning to ever put anything from the REM on a team is pointless, because it's so incredibly unlikely that it could be years before you get one without IAP. Godfests just effect too many things, so even on a correct godfest and a correct gala it doesn't seem that doable. Is that off base? Is this team just undoable for me?

I am just going to be the optimistic guy here and point out that rdj saved up stones for a very long time looking for Yomi, and did indeed pull her the next time she was made available in a fest - which happened to be Player's Choice.

My experience says don't count on it happening - but don't ignore the fact that it's possible.

[commandercool]

So far my take on it has been "throw a couple of rolls at every godfest and hope to eventually cobble something together", which has pretty much gotten me a bunch of Dark Golem Mk. IIs and a few weird, not-broadly-useful gods. Maybe that has been the wrong approach and I should be focusing my stones more clearly. I might still be able to cobble something together eventually, but I'll have a better shot at working on my actual team. My worry about committing too many pulls to one godfest trying to get something I really want, though, has been that I'll use most of my stones and whether I get my thing or not some amazing godfest with a ton of useful things will go up shortly after that and I'll have nothing to use for it. But if that's my issue I guess I might as well just go for this one, because yeah, two useful things is not bad, and a Thor or Michael could be pretty badass too.

Do you guys usually have a maximum number of stones spent on a fest/minimum reserve you won't drop below? Obviously how hard I commit will depend on what my first few pulls are, but do you have general rules for godfests?

[OverlordChirei]

Do you guys usually have a maximum number of stones spent on a fest/minimum reserve you won't drop below? Obviously how hard I commit will depend on what my first few pulls are, but do you have general rules for godfests?

For fests like these where I'm not really needing anything in particular from them, I usually just chuck one pull at them for funsies. If it's a fest I really need, I'll either go all in or "until first usable gold". I made a huge mistake with Player's Choice, getting Bastet on my first pull, but then losing 30 stones after on the next 6 pulls getting nothing really great. It's usually okay for me to go to 0 stones after a fest or something since I usually try not to let stones hand-hold me through dungeons if my team/skills blow too much, and just aim for 0-stone clears.

Seeing all the people in this thread somehow living on less than 300 slots really makes me wonder about buying any more, and friends list space is a thing I'll worry about when my mons are actually good.

[Thaws]

Believe in miracles.
I rolled in a norse+angels+demons fes specifically aiming for I&I for blue healers and got it on my fourth draw.

Though my usual policy is 0-1 draws if I look at a fes and don't see a few gods that I'd at least be happy about getting.
I never let myself drop under 100 stones xD non-iap and never spends a stone except for REM and box space here

But like Chaore said, I'm not optimistic in getting a Hatsume :/

Having blue valk is a really good start. Most people have the most trouble rolling that.

I am at 450 box space  and I barely have enough when I have to skill up something.

[Chaore]

But like Chaore said, I'm not optimistic in getting a Hatsume :/

Ninjas and riders are really the worst, the 3x carnival we got was like the best thing for that

i'm still missing hatsume rip

[commandercool]

Yeah, I didn't do any pulls on Ninja/Riders even though I still realized at that point that I needed a Hatsume, and I kind of regret it. Dino Rider might have been kind of cool too. Oh well.

[Thaws]

Ninjas and riders are really the worst, the 3x carnival we got was like the best thing for that

i'm still missing hatsume rip

I know this feel. Orz
That's why I looked for alternatives but Ruka seemed like the only other capable one. :/
I really need that one more skill boost so I can use blue valk on my first turn though. I wished sticker girls got a skill boost instead of another auto-rcv

Over at jap servers they used to do godfes overlapping with rider/ninja carnivals but starting from a few months back they're obviously deliberately place them in different time slots. Gungho being greedy after realizing how much people would pay for a Hanzo probably. :/

[Moogs Parfait]

What worked for me is deciding "I'm going to save for this godfest" and having like 50 stones for that.

I wanted Venus bad, so I told myself I'd wait for a light carnival + godfest.  When the three kingdoms godfest came with roman godfest, I was like "Good enough!" and got both the twins and venus.

[trancehime]

GodFest 8/31 - 9/02 Report

Today I decide to spend on 6 pulls, why not 7, well this post will explain.

3 Silvers, here is the only notable Silver egg I got:


Berserker Z, who is currenlty JPN Exclusive. He evolves to Prometheus who generates Fire orbs from two kinds of orbs. His awakening is 2 Fire Row and 1 Fire Orb Enhance. Plus, he Devil.

3 Golds.



 



 :3



:getdown:

[Yukarin]

:getdown:

welcome to the lmeta club

[Thaws]

:getdown:

Guys we have a winner here.

Welcome to the bastet club too.  :V

[Chaore]

sarasvati meta op

[trancehime]

Guys we have a winner here.

Welcome to the bastet club too.  :V

I've got the materials to evolve Bastet too; I just need to max her out!

For the record, my two "garbage" pulls were Fenrir Knight and Undine - FK actually isn't that garbage but compared to everything else I got yeah

[Thaws]

I've got the materials to evolve Bastet too; I just need to max her out!

For the record, my two "garbage" pulls were Fenrir Knight and Undine - FK actually isn't that garbage but compared to everything else I got yeah

I got Bastet as my first god type back when I was rank 50, she can really hone your puzzle skills.
Especially now with the ult and +0.5s awakening.
My number of Bastet friends was dwindling lately so I'm so glad to see someone on my friendlist joining the club! :V

Do you have a (light) Valkyrie yet? Bastet Amitan Valkyrie Shynee Echidna is a very solid non-iap friendly Bastet healer team with very great burst capability (easily dealing millions), though you might have to wait a bit for amitan to come around and he's not healer type sadly despite having a siren-like leader skill.
Lmeta team's also pretty easy to build too, e.g. valk angelion shynee echidna, though I guess you already know about that.

You'd be surprised how much smoother your journey through normal/technical dungeons would be once you get a good leader from REM.

[trancehime]

Do you have a (light) Valkyrie yet? Bastet Amitan Valkyrie Shynee Echidna is a very solid non-iap friendly Bastet healer team with very great burst capability (easily dealing millions), though you might have to wait a bit for amitan to come around and he's not healer type sadly despite having a siren-like leader skill.
Lmeta team's also pretty easy to build too, e.g. valk angelion shynee echidna, though I guess you already know about that.

I don't have a Valkyrie yet, from the Pink REM I pulled Ruka.

I currently use Archangel, D/D Lilith, Echidna and King Shynee for my subs.

I have been abusing the hell out of your Twinlit I&I so thank you for that. It really helped me a lot; the damage difference is phenomenal, I almost oneshot Hades after King Shynee's active.

[Chaore]

Pandora survey dungeon on monday.

...alongside Antikythera, sorry gabe, nothing for you.

[OverlordChirei]

Did two pulls, Vampire and evolved Megalodran. I actually was kind of wondering when the latter would show up, so he'll be nice with Isis/Blodin in the blue physical club I guess!

grodin where

[Mr. Sacchi]

13 godfest pulls oh god here we go



Meh, that's cool I guess, not exactly what I was looking for though.



Oh? You know what, I'll take that.



Hello Uriel how you doing.



wat (yes i got two pandoras i just forgot to take a pic of the second one not that it matters though)



gaem pls



GAEM PLS



HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I AIN'T EVEN MAD THAT I DIDN'T GET FIRE VALK OR FREYR I GOT MY URIEL THAT'S FREAKING ENOUGH

SO MUCH FOR NOT HAVING A SINGLE SPECIAL GOD