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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #720 on: August 28, 2014, 02:09:52 AM »
Bold Pirate Zaerog is better than Maleficent Zaerog as a sub, at the very least. His awakenings might not be as good but he's got the decent active and outright better stats than Maleficent.

Bold Pirate's evo requirements are also nasty as fuck - all 5 colored Pirate Dragons :fail:

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« Reply #721 on: August 28, 2014, 02:34:38 AM »
Not like Maleficent is much better with that delicious Super Metal King, Trifruits and Devilit Requirement :colonveeplusalpha:

The only respite you can take off of Maleficent is that you always know when you can get his evo mats, other than that though...

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« Reply #722 on: August 28, 2014, 03:19:45 AM »
also actually getting zaerog is way harder than any of his evo mats

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« Reply #723 on: August 28, 2014, 03:21:49 AM »
True enough I suppose, I heard that Legendary Earth is the hardest dungeon in the game - topping even any and all descends.

How much of that is true, by the way?

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« Reply #724 on: August 28, 2014, 03:26:48 AM »
its not so much 'hard' as it is a huge pain with a super luck based floor one and astronomical stamina cost

not to mention the mere 1/3 chance of zaerog actually dropping

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« Reply #725 on: August 28, 2014, 05:58:13 AM »
The conditional for Naoe Kanetsugu's descend?

You have to have a Rainbow team.

Yay!

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« Reply #726 on: August 28, 2014, 06:34:59 AM »
The conditional for Naoe Kanetsugu's descend?

You have to have a Rainbow team.

Yay!

My Ra is ready. :V



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« Reply #727 on: August 28, 2014, 07:25:53 AM »
blow almost an entire bar of 110 stamina on thursday dungeon

feed loads of skillups to toytops and just watch the bar go away with no skillups gained

I seriously want to know who thought this was a good idea so I can point them in the direction of the nearest psych ward because they need to get their head checked

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« Reply #728 on: August 28, 2014, 08:40:26 AM »
My Ra is ready. :V

as is my horus

finally i get to play him again yay


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« Reply #729 on: August 28, 2014, 09:00:46 AM »
High Fire Ninja - Balanced/Devil
AS: Dragon Attack Stance - Fire (Flame Dragon Knight skill JPN version only, do not confuse with Himiko)
LS: ATK and RCV of Balanced monsters x1.5

High Light Ninja - Physical/Devil
AS: Curse of Lightning (Baal skill)
LS: ATK and HP of Physical monsters x1.5

High Water Ninja - Healer/Devil (fuck, so much for thinking Light was gonna be Healer!)
AS: Protection Magic Water (Snow White Skill)
LS: ATK and HP of Healer monsters x1.5

You may seen these on PDX already.

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« Reply #730 on: August 28, 2014, 11:58:27 AM »
Baal getting a non collaboration skillup material is a huge deal, me thinks. By extension, we're almost guaranteed to get it outside of Japan as well!

Also I have no Gabriel friends to tackle Goemon with and I'm incredibly sad.

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« Reply #731 on: August 28, 2014, 12:40:11 PM »
Do descend bosses always drop a treasure chest when they don't drop their egg, or is Goemon just a particular troll? :wat: :D
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« Reply #732 on: August 28, 2014, 01:11:01 PM »
A couple of close calls, but I did it. If I had known this would work for sure, I'd have done it tomorrow on the 2x.



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« Reply #733 on: August 28, 2014, 01:47:39 PM »
At this point I've probably "won" around 40 blue or green dragon fruits, to one red fruit.

Seriously, fuck thursday dungeon.  This is horseshit. :|

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« Reply #734 on: August 28, 2014, 01:56:27 PM »
At this point I've probably "won" around 40 blue or green dragon fruits, to one red fruit.

Seriously, fuck thursday dungeon.  This is horseshit. :|

i got a total of 3 dragon fruits (no not trifruits. regular dragon fruits) out of about 20 thursday dungeon (non trifruit) runs. LIFETIME.

god. tell me about it.  and half of those runs were during x2.0 drop rate.

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« Reply #735 on: August 28, 2014, 02:17:37 PM »
I'm just so glad I'm done with fucking Twinlits because you all know how dismal my luck on Angelits was  :ohdear:
:hi5: fellow bad at getting the right drops buddies.

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« Reply #736 on: August 28, 2014, 02:42:46 PM »
I'm just so glad I'm done with fucking Twinlits because you all know how dismal my luck on Angelits was  :ohdear:
:hi5: fellow bad at getting the right drops buddies.

You could also be me and require a metric ton of single Mythlits.

Yeah...

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« Reply #737 on: August 28, 2014, 03:15:13 PM »
I'm overflowing with Dub-Mythlits but can't get a single dub-Topalit to save my life. Got more Myths than topas in the past few weeks of farming when all I need is topas.

Also, tackled Goemon legend with Ruka + Hermes Water/Healer team and got the drop! Woo.


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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #738 on: August 28, 2014, 03:16:22 PM »
I'm just so glad I'm done with fucking Twinlits because you all know how dismal my luck on Angelits was  :ohdear:
:hi5: fellow bad at getting the right drops buddies.

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« Reply #739 on: August 28, 2014, 03:18:18 PM »
You could also be me and require a metric ton of single Mythlits.

Yeah...

We've been there, trust us.

Mythlits and dragon fruits are one thing, they drop in low-stamina dungeons that can be run by pretty much anything and often appear in dungeons other than where they're farmed such as regular normals or technicals.

Farming angelits/devilits and color dragon fruits is another thing entirely.  They're mythical-level difficulty at 50 stamina a run and require very specific teams to beat, because they offer extremely little flexibility in terms of actions you must perform on specific rounds.

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« Reply #740 on: August 28, 2014, 03:21:36 PM »
Goemon gave me gold a second time. What a jerk. If I needed gold I'd go beat up some weekend furries for it. (I don't even really want a Goemon, I just got nothing better going on today).

As for bad drops, I need one more Dub-Rubylit to finish my Eva team for now, and I've gotten a single one to drop out of the 17 of them I've seen since Monday. At least half of those were on 1.5x drops. Why is it that wood devils and demons always drop on every floor they appear on in Vesta Cave? At least give me fire trash so I can level my Misato.
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« Reply #741 on: August 28, 2014, 04:20:53 PM »
One of my friends suddenly used a Hermes and I got to tackle Goemon with that.

It was surprisingly scary! If not for the fact that I had four heartmakers I might have GO'd.
Also nervewracking was when he could have killed me with Coin Toss because I flubbed my matching but he used a regular attack instead.

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« Reply #742 on: August 28, 2014, 04:25:23 PM »
Farming angelits/devilits and color dragon fruits is another thing entirely.  They're mythical-level difficulty at 50 stamina a run and require very specific teams to beat, because they offer extremely little flexibility in terms of actions you must perform on specific rounds.
Another thing with these stupid dungeons (at least Twinlits) is even with teams that can zero-stone the dungeon you can very easily get Round 1 orb screwed or surprise cascade insta-clear and welp there goes 50 stamina completely out of your control.

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« Reply #743 on: August 28, 2014, 08:35:51 PM »
I'm overflowing with Dub-Mythlits but can't get a single dub-Topalit to save my life. Got more Myths than topas in the past few weeks of farming when all I need is topas.

I just farm sky city for those on 1.5x, slow but you might get lucky, and the exp is great.

(I kind of have to now, got dubmyth flooded from unboosted starlight sanctuary of all things. Any more and there goes my box >_>)


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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #744 on: August 29, 2014, 02:39:42 AM »
One-Stoned Goemon Descended on Legend, miscalculated my damage (AKA too many skyfalls) and took Mitsuki's Flaming Tail Attack to the face.

Fortunately that (+ Goemon spawning on a 2 timer) actually meant that I had BARELY enough time to heal up to survive Ninja Fireworks (12% fire damage reduction saving me here) and have Tyrannos up to get most of Goemon's HP down on a simple Tyrannos/Ares/Meteor Volcano Dragon/Horus Combo.

Then, just pop Gigas and make 3 different fire matches and I win, Goemon dropped so that's great since I wanted him on my monored in place of my Meteor Volcano Dragon.

Wish I could skill him up but that's for the future, now I just need to dump a ton of exp on him, which is actually fine when you consider the sheer fact that I have a Rouge sitting on my box. The problematic part will be increasing my rank to get another 9 team cost, but eh.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 02:51:59 AM by Silver Sacchi »

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« Reply #745 on: August 29, 2014, 03:26:48 AM »
What're your thoughts everyone on Sandalphon? I'm considering picking one up on Saturday to replace King Shynee at least some of the time. Is he worth it? The 60 cost is hefty as hell, but I'm only three or four rank-ups away from being able to afford it. Will x2 attack for two turns be significantly worse than x3 attack for one turn? It matters the most against high defenses, but huge defense numbers don't seem that common in late-game stuff and I'll always know it's coming.

Shynee's big flaws are terrible stats and lack of versatility, and Sandalphon has much better stats and a much more versatile set of traits. His ability takes much longer to charge up though and I often find myself just barely managing to stall long enough to get Shynee up, so that might be a problem too.
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« Reply #746 on: August 29, 2014, 04:04:34 AM »
I only ever use Sandy if I know I can get away with it.  I'm halfway to +297 on Shynee and Sandy isn't even maxed.  That cooldown is brutal for a team that can't take hits.  I may feel differently after a few hundred more +HP

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« Reply #747 on: August 29, 2014, 04:09:48 AM »
I only ever use Sandy if I know I can get away with it.  I'm halfway to +297 on Shynee and Sandy isn't even maxed.  That cooldown is brutal for a team that can't take hits.  I may feel differently after a few hundred more +HP

Hmm, what king of skillups do you have on that King Shynee? Every time I have a gold king I think about saving it to manufacture more King Shynees for skillups, but always give up when I remember how long farming the Topalits will take.
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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #748 on: August 29, 2014, 05:16:57 AM »
What're your thoughts everyone on Sandalphon? I'm considering picking one up on Saturday to replace King Shynee at least some of the time. Is he worth it? The 60 cost is hefty as hell, but I'm only three or four rank-ups away from being able to afford it. Will x2 attack for two turns be significantly worse than x3 attack for one turn? It matters the most against high defenses, but huge defense numbers don't seem that common in late-game stuff and I'll always know it's coming.

Shynee's big flaws are terrible stats and lack of versatility, and Sandalphon has much better stats and a much more versatile set of traits. His ability takes much longer to charge up though and I often find myself just barely managing to stall long enough to get Shynee up, so that might be a problem too.

This is coming from someone who only has experience using Sun Quan, Izanagi and Shynee, so I'm not sure if it'd apply to you.

First of all, I couldn't stand Shynee's terrible stats and I switched it out for Izanagi as soon as I was lucky enough to roll one. (Though I'm a Bastet user, Valk sadly still does not have god type, when her name was literally Goddess of the White Shield before her ult) but I can tell you the extra hp is really helpful.
Sandalphon's 25 cd is indeed terrible, you can try to casually skill him up a bit when you can no-stone the dungeon. Not sure if it's worth throwing stones at for though.
2x attack is quite a difference from 3x, so that'd depend on the monsters you have at your disposal and how much damage you need.
Having 2 turns is not as useful as you think, most of the time you have to depend on that one time burst with all your orb changing skills and stuff, but if you have two valks it does allow you to do a bit of extra damage for another turn.
High def stuff is not the concern here because they're usually mid-stage stuff and you should be saving the enhance for the boss. There are exceptions though, mainly stages involving tamadras where you can enhance and kill all other mons leaving the tamadra intact (it has ridiculous def so it's ok), and you can proceed to stall for skills and arrange orbs in your favour.

In the end, it depends on whether you need the extra hp to maybe survive that one hit from a certain wave, or if stalling for 25 turns is possible and so on. It's always better to have more choices and flexibility in your team for facing different dungeons.

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« Reply #749 on: August 29, 2014, 05:22:00 AM »
All those Mystic masks require a mystic mask and a keeper to evolve. Ow.

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