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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #210 on: August 07, 2014, 05:20:24 PM »
Just got myself a Nebradisk, was a lot simpler than I expected tbh, just had to take my Meteor Volcano Dragon away from the monored and exchange him for my Golden Keeper and all was well.

The most dangerous part was when I got to wave 5 and almost killed the wicked lady and she bound my entire team (besides my echidna, who I had already popped), two bloody nails later and I barely managed to get enough healing out to survive a third bloody nail.

Nebradisk was easy, just make sure I had enough red orbs (easy with both Gigas and Ares at my back) and once he would make me explode just pop Golden Keeper, mission accomplished.

That's step one to acquiring Folklore, now to wait for the next mystic dragon.

As far as the PEM goes, I got another angelit, a cupid, a keeper of dark (which is good because I dropped only keepers of light on tuesday for the Heras), a Blue Fruit and 2 plus eggs.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 05:23:20 PM by Silver Sacchi »

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #211 on: August 07, 2014, 05:33:43 PM »
wait mephist needs low hp for his leader skill but his active heals him

wat

dat baal synergy for dat 30% brah

alternatively, they had to fuck him up somehow/bargain bin stall luci option for a heal that isn't pekka

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #212 on: August 07, 2014, 05:34:59 PM »
I'm glad Lu Bu is so good

because he's motherfuckin Lu Bu

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #213 on: August 07, 2014, 05:37:49 PM »
Didn't occur to me to use Gold Keeper for Nebradisk. I'd like to grab three of them some time before the dungeon ends, and I've been trying to determine exactly what the safest way to do it is. That seems smart. Right now the plan is Valkyrie as my leader, Siren, Lilith, Echidna, and maybe Archangel for the autoheals, with some kind of dark resist as my friend. I wish my Lilith was better-leveled, but I think I should still have enough damage to clear the goon floors and just poison the boss to death. I'll consider switching her or maybe Archangel out for Gold Keeper though. Yup, times like this I wish I had more stuff leveled. I'm working on it though. Gigas and Siegfried are both well on their way, especially after that red snow globe I got earlier. Not that either seems like they would help a lot here, but options are good.
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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #214 on: August 07, 2014, 06:14:34 PM »
Didn't occur to me to use Gold Keeper for Nebradisk. I'd like to grab three of them some time before the dungeon ends, and I've been trying to determine exactly what the safest way to do it is. That seems smart. Right now the plan is Valkyrie as my leader, Siren, Lilith, Echidna, and maybe Archangel for the autoheals, with some kind of dark resist as my friend. I wish my Lilith was better-leveled, but I think I should still have enough damage to clear the goon floors and just poison the boss to death. I'll consider switching her or maybe Archangel out for Gold Keeper though. Yup, times like this I wish I had more stuff leveled. I'm working on it though. Gigas and Siegfried are both well on their way, especially after that red snow globe I got earlier. Not that either seems like they would help a lot here, but options are good.

If you're Valk, make sure to 1shot the demons. They bind pretty often. If you get bound once, you're not escaping until it dies.

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #215 on: August 07, 2014, 07:28:48 PM »
If you're Valk, make sure to 1shot the demons. They bind pretty often. If you get bound once, you're not escaping until it dies.

Aren't they only supposed to bind 10% of the time? Point taken though, umfortunately Archangel has the same typing as Valkyrie so her skill and row-heal come up less often than I would like. Reallt need a Ceres or Amaterasu, but that's not happening any time soon.
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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #216 on: August 07, 2014, 07:39:42 PM »
Aren't they only supposed to bind 10% of the time? Point taken though, umfortunately Archangel has the same typing as Valkyrie so her skill and row-heal come up less often than I would like. Reallt need a Ceres or Amaterasu, but that's not happening any time soon.

I'm just telling you my experience running mono blue in the red OOPart dungeon. There only one demon and he bound me every other turn. One of my guys was bound for 10+ turns.

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« Reply #217 on: August 07, 2014, 08:07:16 PM »
Strategy worked great, even though I forgot that Neb is immune to status (no poison). Don't really have the subs to do this right, but it doesn't seem to be THAT risky with a dark resist. I used a Hades ult with a light subtype and he got bound once though, which was scary.
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« Reply #218 on: August 07, 2014, 08:12:35 PM »
I'm just telling you my experience running mono blue in the red OOPart dungeon. There only one demon and he bound me every other turn. One of my guys was bound for 10+ turns.

If any of your monsters were bind immune, that was probably the problem, since from what I understand, binds won't happen if everything is already bound. So if even one applicable target resists, they can still use the bind move again.

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« Reply #219 on: August 07, 2014, 08:20:04 PM »
Strategy worked great, even though I forgot that Neb is immune to status (no poison). Don't really have the subs to do this right, but it doesn't seem to be THAT risky with a dark resist. I used a Hades ult with a light subtype and he got bound once though, which was scary.

If you don't have Bane or UFO from the recent collabs, there is one more option.

I... am not sure what happens if you use the Gold Keeper's active on Annihilating Light, but optimism wants to say the charge timer resets, effectively giving you 3 more turns to slap him down for free, which should be more than enough.

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« Reply #220 on: August 07, 2014, 08:44:09 PM »
If you don't have Bane or UFO from the recent collabs, there is one more option.

I... am not sure what happens if you use the Gold Keeper's active on Annihilating Light, but optimism wants to say the charge timer resets, effectively giving you 3 more turns to slap him down for free, which should be more than enough.

Yeah, fuck me for not bothering to evolve my Banes when Light Keepers were available. Maybe I'll get one from the Pal tomorrow.

I have a few optio s to kill Nebradisk. I can try the Keeper thing (if I swap out enough part-Light things one extra turn will do it), or I can keep using Hades buddies for the Ultra Gravity (which I did the first time). I haven't done the math yet, but is it possible to crack Neb's defense with x27 and high combos?
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« Reply #221 on: August 07, 2014, 09:01:52 PM »
The PEM is being kind to me. Got an angelit and a blue ancient mask so far.

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #222 on: August 07, 2014, 09:05:54 PM »
600,000 defense isn't -that- high for a light team. Problem is, there are no light orbs.
For context, my TAMADRApurin team's nuke-burst has an effective x25 multiplier (before orb enhance)  and can output some 1 million on his own.

If you're really wondering, Nebradisk does give you three turns to set up orb conversions. You can probably run into Endless Corridors to see if you can hit 600k or 300k with any given light mob.

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #223 on: August 07, 2014, 09:24:09 PM »
600,000 defense isn't -that- high for a light team. Problem is, there are no light orbs.
For context, my TAMADRApurin team's nuke-burst has an effective x25 multiplier (before orb enhance)  and can output some 1 million on his own.

If you're really wondering, Nebradisk does give you three turns to set up orb conversions. You can probably run into Endless Corridors to see if you can hit 600k or 300k with any given light mob.

Even if you manage that, you have to take in to account that you don't get any free light orbs and those demons are really bind happy.

EDIT: Why do I suck at reading? You just said that.

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #224 on: August 07, 2014, 10:05:00 PM »
600,000 defense isn't -that- high for a light team. Problem is, there are no light orbs.
For context, my TAMADRApurin team's nuke-burst has an effective x25 multiplier (before orb enhance)  and can output some 1 million on his own.

If you're really wondering, Nebradisk does give you three turns to set up orb conversions. You can probably run into Endless Corridors to see if you can hit 600k or 300k with any given light mob.

Light doesn't actually usually contribute that much to my burst damage. Mostly I care about water, and I should be able to get a lot of it here. Filling most of the screen with water might actually be harder than usual since the reduced orb variety means setup turns might accidentally take down half of the screen, but that might actually be a good thing because it should mean more separate combos. At that point it's just a matter of not getting some kind of unlucky Wicked Lady blind+demon bind scenario. Even then I would be good to go if my Echidna was fully awoken. This seems like a relatively me-friendly dungeon. I think.
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« Reply #225 on: August 08, 2014, 02:07:19 AM »
So, yeah, healer team does just fine at Mystic Dark Dragon... Until Charming Temptress Wicked Lady wrecked my ship with her ultrabind, hitting everything except King Shynee. Literally anything else and I would have been just fine. I didn't actually know she did that though, so... Next time I'll be more careful. And by careful I mean violent. :flamingv:
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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #226 on: August 08, 2014, 02:24:15 AM »
So, yeah, healer team does just fine at Mystic Dark Dragon... Until Charming Temptress Wicked Lady wrecked my ship with her ultrabind, hitting everything except King Shynee. Literally anything else and I would have been just fine. I didn't actually know she did that though, so... Next time I'll be more careful. And by careful I mean violent. :flamingv:
I think Charm happens at 30% health at 100% chance, just once per encounter.  Keeping that in mind, start unleashing heavy attacks right around there and you might not have to deal with it.
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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #227 on: August 08, 2014, 04:43:46 AM »
I think Charm happens at 30% health at 100% chance, just once per encounter.

This exactly. You'll have to deal with the possibility of it twice, so prepare accordingly.

This is why I went with the 4/5/0 Balanced thing, and the fact that Alraune can resist binds half the time/cure them incase I fail to do enough damage. You could also choose a bind-immune lead like twinlit Isis, and she can even cure 1 turn of it away with a much shorter CD. LMeta is also bind-immune and is Healer with a cure that removes 2 turns worth, but has Light as main element instead so no outright attacking for her.

Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #228 on: August 08, 2014, 05:08:04 AM »
Isis cures 2 turns bro BV

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« Reply #229 on: August 08, 2014, 05:18:05 AM »
1 skill up away from maxing vain. Sadly, 3 chasers were lost in vain. At least I have more space now. I can get more chasers too. If only their materials weren't a pain to get.

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« Reply #230 on: August 08, 2014, 05:55:17 AM »
Isis cures 2 turns bro BV

Huh. I keep thinking it's 1 for some reason, even though I have personally used your Isis to give the finger to some bind dungeons. Maybe that's just me unconsciously thinking it should be 1 for the absurdly short cd it has.

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #231 on: August 08, 2014, 06:10:38 AM »
what the fuck man those golems were supposed to be REMOVED, not reduced

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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #232 on: August 08, 2014, 07:51:34 AM »
Well, I suppose I should've known that I'm nowhere near as prepared as I thought I was for Goddess Descended. Guess the fact that I used an uvo'd Lucifer friend didn't help either.

Throwing stones at the screen didn't help either, especially considering that she didn't drop.

Granted though, I was stupid enough to get her to the HP % I needed and then use gravity... before 'buncle was off cooldown. And considering he's on a goddamn 3 turn cooldown that's just sad. That cost me about 4 stones because hearts didn't like me for some reason.

Lesson learned, I guess, that's 9 stones down the drain though, guess I'll try after my stamina's refilled with chaore's luci or something, see if I can get lucky this time.


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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #233 on: August 08, 2014, 08:12:40 AM »
wait mephist needs low hp for his leader skill but his active heals him

wat

80% isn't that low.

But I do understand that his active goes directly at odds with his LS, which strikes me as unusual. On top of this, his RCV is actually a little on the high side.

I also got an Ancient Blue Sacred Mask from the PEM. Obviously, I need to pray I get I&I from next week's GodFest.

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« Reply #234 on: August 08, 2014, 12:02:24 PM »


IS THIS ANOTHER METATRON ULTIMATE OH MY GOD SHE LOOKS GORGEOUS

EDIT: SHE HAS A TAIIIIIIILLLL

EDITEDIT: OKAY NOT A TAIL
« Last Edit: August 08, 2014, 12:29:36 PM by Meganekarin »


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« Reply #235 on: August 08, 2014, 12:15:53 PM »


IS THIS ANOTHER METATRON ULTIMATE OH MY GOD SHE LOOKS GORGEOUS

EDIT: SHE HAS A TAIIIIIIILLLL

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :*

Look closer though. That isn't a tail. That's an inner tube. Thus the bikini and beach balls :v

I'm just happy because it means she's gonna be a blue healer, just as I was hoping to start collecting. And since I already have LMeta and hardly use her...
« Last Edit: August 08, 2014, 12:18:59 PM by Matsurara Kasugano »

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« Reply #236 on: August 08, 2014, 12:22:31 PM »
I think Charm happens at 30% health at 100% chance, just once per encounter.  Keeping that in mind, start unleashing heavy attacks right around there and you might not have to deal with it.

Yeah, now that I know that it's not a problem barring a significant accidental skyfall. Now I just kill the werewolves first, and as long as I don't kill her until last I can either overshoot that range or if she does bind me she can't really do anything about it before I recover.



IS THIS ANOTHER METATRON ULTIMATE OH MY GOD SHE LOOKS GORGEOUS

EDIT: SHE HAS A TAIIIIIIILLLL

I'm on board with this trend. Beach Gigas next please.

Also, she really looks like Byakuren. Most of her art does, but this one especially.
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« Reply #237 on: August 08, 2014, 12:28:35 PM »


Yeah, I was watching the stream earlier and it was...

Something, yeah.

That said, Mephisto Descends is now officially open! :V

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« Reply #238 on: August 08, 2014, 01:00:32 PM »
guys i received new information about Metatron here.

She's only available in the PINK REM.

welp there goes my hopes and dreams (non-iap player here)


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Re: Puzzles and Dragons 11- This is Ridiculous. It's not even funny.
« Reply #239 on: August 08, 2014, 01:01:06 PM »
what the fuck man those golems were supposed to be REMOVED, not reduced

We got ripper dragons out and a bunch of other crap reduced in return so I suppose that's still good?



Oh shit Metatron hits the beach? I can't say I expected this.