Author Topic: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!  (Read 4180 times)

Ghaleon

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I see thanks, also you probably know but the 2nd game should come out moreso than a matter of if...I mean, unless xseed HQ gets bombed or something I'm confident it'll come out, especially since they are getting help from others to translate it as well.

It's even looking more hopeful that we'll finally get the rest of the series too eventually. I wonder what kinda numbers you'd get if fans of the entire series (who played and understands Japanese) stated what their fave in the series was.

I've only played through the Sora arc (Trails in the Sky), but Ao no Kiseki is generally regarded by fans as the best in the series.

Also, the music is kinda lacklustre in general for the Sora series, with only a few good tracks in Sora SC and the 3rd.  The music gets really great though once you reach the Crossbell arc (Zero and Ao no Kiseki). Try listening to the Ao Evolution soundtracks on youtube, they're pretty amazing.

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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2014, 09:44:19 PM »
Ahaha. If you want an easy exploit, Vegetable Sandwiches cost less to make than they sell for.

I imagine this becomes a waste of time later in the game though, since it's not that fast.

Ghaleon

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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2014, 02:18:52 AM »
I'm a little bit into chapter 2 now, and I'm still enjoying the story just fine. I mean it's not visual novel good or anything but I've heard a few times that the story is a bit of a drag early on and then is much better by the 2nd half of the game. But even now I find the story to be more enjoyable than pretty much any final fantasy game (including the ones I like), baldur's gate, skyrim, whatever.

The combat is really wonky though. It's actually kinda like Ys where even the most mundane stuff absolutely MAULS you faster than you can blink if you're underlevel/geared (seems gear matters more than level tbh), but you get exp so effing fast if you're underleveld that you'll be on par really quick, and then every boss is relatively easy because getting to them is near impossible without at least being normal level unless you intentionally avoid absolutely everything. But yeah, then if your gear/level is up to date, stuff that would 2 shot you before suddenly starts 10 shotting you. Overall I think the difficulty in combat is actually better than most JRPGs (which tend to be really effing easy no matter what).

I just wish you could control where you move to if you choose to attack something, or that it would let you attack for "free" if you manually select move and end up in a position capable of attacking. That said the combat in this game is actually very much like the first lunar game (I say the first because I haven't played any others other than silver star and eternal blue, and in eternal blue, though the system was the same, every character generally had more than enough move for it to almost never matter). The only exception is the addition of the CP mechanics and bonus bar thing.

people also probably know but if not. If you get into a fight with some shining poms, and you care more about the sepiths rewarded than the exp, then hitting one with Estelle's pummel attack actually gives you more sepith than killing one. So you may want to make sure you pummel one during a sepith up turn if possible, even if it lowers your chances of actually landing a kill somewhat.

I SUSPECT that whip-lady's cancel attack thing works the same way but I never had the opportunity to try it yet. Josh's cancel attack does NOT litter crystals everywhere though.

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oops, I mean pummel/whip lady during the sepith up bonus event thing. Pummel hits the enemy a gajillion times for purposes of making crystals fall (even though it only shows you one damage number in the end).
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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2014, 02:49:30 AM »
Basically agree with everything Ghaleon said.

I think the game was overhyped - it's no Chrono Trigger - but it's still an above average JRPG. Like I said earlier, it feels very much like a PS1 game. It has a quaint, nostalgic feel to it, and it's obvious that it was made with love. It takes a lot of time to play, though, so don't expect to blow through it in a weekend or something.

Ghaleon

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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2014, 03:14:59 AM »
I'm not really sure if I like Chrono trigger more tbh.. CT had better music for sure, and the sprites probably looked better too. But the combat was pretty shallow IMO, and I like the cast in Trails more so far. Not to mention it seems more believable. I'm not meaning realistic, just believable. I have a closer attachment to young "heroes" in rpgs that actually kinda feel normalish at first and gradually become "hero" after time and dedication. In chrono trigger you start off as a  youngster partying, to smoking a kingdom's ultimate weapon (dragon tank) within like the first 5% of the game.

Basically I'm not comfortable saying if I think the game is overhyped or not yet. It IS part of a large series, and even after I finish the first game, I don't think I can say for sure. Assuming the entire series is about as good as this game is. It's worth its money, and I'll look forward to getting them all when I can. But yeah it'd probably be overhyped imo. But assuming it gets better, then I think I'll say the hype was justified.

That said, I still am not sure how this game got a "Great soundtrack" tag, and games like vindictus, dungeon dashers, Valdis story, and tales of Maj'eyal don't... Though maybe tales might not cuz they use free library music (not even sure they do but a possibility).

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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2014, 01:55:14 PM »
people also probably know but if not. If you get into a fight with some shining poms, and you care more about the sepiths rewarded than the exp, then hitting one with Estelle's pummel attack actually gives you more sepith than killing one. So you may want to make sure you pummel one during a sepith up turn if possible, even if it lowers your chances of actually landing a kill somewhat.

I SUSPECT that whip-lady's cancel attack thing works the same way but I never had the opportunity to try it yet. Josh's cancel attack does NOT litter crystals everywhere though.

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oops, I mean pummel/whip lady during the sepith up bonus event thing. Pummel hits the enemy a gajillion times for purposes of making crystals fall (even though it only shows you one damage number in the end).

Estelle's S-craft has 17 hits (for the purpose of Sepith turns) and Schera's S-craft has 19, so yes they're good for farming sepith turns. Tita's S-craft has 8 hits but hits a large area instead of just a single enemy, so that's great as well. If you can't get an S-craft in time, you can try to time Aerial (11 hits) or Titanic Roar (10 hits) instead.

Ghaleon

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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2014, 04:53:58 AM »
pretty sure I'm near the end of the game now... like, final dungeon or 2nd last dungeon..Basically I'm at a point where everyone reunites again to only split up into separate teams to do something, and even Estelle and Joshua are separate, pretty sure that's the best way to say exactly where I am without being spoilertastic (as obvious as any implications would have been otherwise, it was quite foreshadowed all along).

But uhh... I found most of the new music introduced in chapter 3 to be better than the final chapter introduced SO FAR (very little new tracks were introduced however). That said, even the few games I thought to have compareable to or better stories than this game so far..When I consider I'm only 40ish hours in... I'm not sure I know any games with better stories in only 40 hours. Given that this is merely the introduction to a large series as a whole, I'm thinking it may indeed justify its own hype.

There are some trivial quirks for sure [minor spoilers I don't think worth spoilering but whatever] 
Spoiler:
IIRC when you first meet colonel richard? I think that's his name, the information ops leader dude, at the end of chapter 1. I'm pretty sure he says your father was his commander...Then when you tell Nial to tell you about the enemy in the final chapter, josh and Estelle are all like "So he DID know our father!, holy carp!", as if they were surprised, but did hear that already, which is acceptable I guess...But then when they speak to Richard directly in the royal palace, they were like NO WAY!?! You knew our father?! HOWW??!?!... And they weren't playing dumb... NOT IMPORTANT I know, but this isn't the only example of a situation where I can't help but wonder that the story changed writers mid-story without being fully updated by the previous. And I've heard people absolutely RANT about how like even the tiniest bit of text from even the random town npcs are some kind of epiphiny of god-like intelligent it all makes sense connection. Seeing stuff like I mentioned only makes me doubt the validity of the hype I've heard

That said, I still think the story, as I said, is quite possibly the absolute best for the amount of time spent on it (40ish hours so far), and I haven't even gotten to this jaw-dropping twist I keep hearing about at the end!

Basically, I'm not done the game yet but I can say now that while I wasn't expecting the absolute best I've heard from the best hype I've heard... I've decided this game is at least as good as what I was hoping for (hoping, not expecting, which is obviously better).

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Re: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Coming July 29th, 2014 to PC!
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2014, 04:21:55 AM »
I'm not sure if I managed to update my game or not. :( (Yeah, I only got around to it now)

I mean, I got the update patch thing to 2.0.1.3, and "apparently" patched it. But when I run the game's .exe, the window doesn't inform you the game's version.

How can I tell what version it is?

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