Touhou Accomplishment Thread 22: Impossible Spell Cards are No Match For Us!

[Pakken11]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=36615
Finally, a legit Marisa Lunatic 1cc - albeit Marisa-C

That, and I CAPTURED VIRTUE OF WIND GOD GAIZZZZZZZZ  :getdown: :* :toot: :getdown: :* :getdown: :toot: :* :getdown: :toot: :* :toot: :getdown: :* :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:

It was first time seeing it on Marisa-C, too :DD

P.S. Case in point - I demonstrate and prove that MoF is all about bombing, not dodging.

[Cream Soda]

I demonstrate and prove that MoF is all about bombing, not dodging.

You should try scoring. Everyone else who says this, too. They should try scoring.

[Pakken11]

You should try scoring. Everyone else who says this, too. They should try scoring.

My signature. Not interested. Sorry.

Besides, that IS my highest score, apart from ChoMarisa lolol

[Mino ☆]

MoF scoring is still very bomb oriented, albeit dodging plays a significant role, of course.

[Cream Soda]

You have to use bombs to optimize your score, but you have to plan exactly where and when to use them. You can lose a lot of points by survival bombing, and even more if you lose a life, so you have to do a lot of really difficult dodging to score high.

[Mino ☆]

Well of course. Routing is an essential part of score play. You'd have to route your bombs correctly in order to optimize faith gain, while making sure they are timed right to be deathbombs to prevent faith loss. Bombs are also highly used for point item collection as well.

dying is like a sin in MoF. You never want to do it, as it just causes such a big faith loss that you may as well esc + r. survival play is definitely a high point in MoF.

Oh, and let's not even forget about cancel timing.

[ふねん1]

Yeah, that's one of the things I like about MoF's scoring system. The chain mechanic has been tried and tested in other shooting games over the years, so there's a good deal of strategic play to be had during stages, but just like those other shooting games, the bosses tend to emphasize top-notch survival play. A good mix of the two sides, if you ask me.

Going more on-topic, I got a NMNB run past Mokou's eighth nonspell for the first time in a while. Died stupidly to the second phase of Possessed by Phoenix, but I was listening to other music at the time, so I wasn't fully expecting to continuously tap to the right beat. Instead, I've learned the circling method to (hopefully) get a bit more consistency on that attack in the future.

[Koog]

Tried MoF for the first time with ReimuA (I just want to beat a game with Reimu ;_;) and reached Kanako O_O I've never thought I would get to her. I thought I'd made to Aya...

[Pakken11]

Routing is an essential part of score play.

Routing

ROUTING

Exactly why I hated UFO so much, exactly why I hate scoring, and probably related to why I hate practicing stages for more than 5 times in a row.
It's just... I don't have the patience for it - I can hardly even play more than a couple runs at a time lol

I don't mind up to just knowing what's coming up next, but sight-reading in general is just soo much more fun - so much more thrilling and cathartic :DDD
(And also probably why I don't like to watch replays of patterns I haven't figured out - don't wanna spoil it lol)

[Mero]

So uhh... I kinda got this first try today :V

NMNB IN stage 4B

And in stages 3 and 5 as well, but I failed the last spells there so meh

[Serela]

Don't have much to do these days, so I've started rehabilitating my ability to play Touhou :3 Unfortunately, I was quickly reminded why I stopped; I -have- to play fullscreen or I can't focus on the bullets properly, and fullscreen 640x480 looks awful (aka, pretty blurry) on an LCD (at least on my widescreen one?). Even DDC doesn't help because my monitor maxes at 900 vertical pixels, so I get the popular display error if I try to fullscreen 1280x960.

Buuut soldiering through anyway. 1cc'd DDC Normal with the last three shots I hadn't done before, IN Hard with Scarlet Team, and DDC Hard with both Reimu shots.  (Over the past several days, that is.) Man, needle Reimu is so meh in DDC; the homing unfocus and small hitbox make it alright though, at least. Anyway, then a victory fanfare of MarisaB DDC Extra which was just as shamefully cheesy as expected. B) Who cares if you just died 3 times in a row and bombspammed the entire stage when you can farm multiple lives off each noncard attack?

IN hard really reminded me though, just how much harder ZUN's later games are. :T IN isn't even short on resources, but the bullets are vastly sparser than in DDC and MoF, and I always considered only SA/UFO to be the evil ones. Well, comparatively. Apart from TD, the later games all give you a boatload of resources... (It's kinda hard to abuse bombs in SA though since they're weaker and being low power can be a death sentence.)

I still don't think I can focus on the bullets as well as I used to though, and I blame my monitor. :T I die to things I really shouldn't, with a higher frequency than should happen. It's been going down a lot though. Maybe I can return to Lunatic soon, but, uh, these later games are scary... ;_; Maybe I'll play PC-98 and EoSD/PCB next...

(I've considered picking up a CRT but switching out for games would be a massive pain and I'm super broke right now anyway. Someday.)

[Pakken11]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=36714

Finally done MoF 1cc on ALL difficulties on ALL shot-types  :getdown:  :* :toot: :toot:

And for the spell card captures... well, I've already done Kanako Final on Lunatic, so I might as well do it sometime? It's so annoying though lol ._.;;

[Koog]

I decided to try EoSD hard. Because why not?? Reached Sakuya without continues and stopped there. I feel so happy!!  :derp:

^{Also, is it bad I think that hard Cirno and Meiling are easier than in Normal..?}

[Andrew]

TD LNB!

This is the survival goal I've been working on during my break from PCB scoring. After a bunch of early stage restarts, a few stage 5 game overs, and an attempt that ended at Miko's penultimate, I got this run. Got my first NNN Futo fight too. Shame about that performance towards the end of Miko though. Really close call on her final.

Perhaps I'll try and do this without trance at some point. I'd need to improve my consistency to clear with so few lives though. While I don't hate TD, there's other games I'd rather play to be honest.

[t_prinny]

Got around to clearing IN Lunatic going through stage 6a. Never got around to doing this since I usually try to go after Kaguya. Kind of a rough run mostly because I was trying to remember how I did stuff from the last time I played IN. Maybe later when I'm up to doing more 6a runs I'll try to improve this.

Video | Replay File

[Agent17]

I cleared all ISC scenes  :getdown:  !

[Mr Jovial]

I finally did a full scorerun of IN lunatic with Netherworld Team, it wasn't great. Most things that could've gone wrong did but the final score was 4.25 billion, which I'm actually pretty happy with. I at least wanted to beat my LNN score (3.7 billion) and would've been happy with anything over 4 billion. Oh well, I'm gonna keep practicing because my first long term goal is 6 billion, after that I'll either switch to Youmu solo or keep going with Netherworld Team. Replay here.

NOTE: Edited out the "I'm so bad hurr durr". Original post here.

[Pakken11]

better score than LNN, plz don't watch it's so bad

 :colbert: :colbert: :colbert: :colbert: :colbert:

[Mr Jovial]

:colbert: :colbert: :colbert: :colbert: :colbert:

:< It's the first time I get to make mistakes and not have to care very much alright. Going from LNN to 7 misses and about 20 bombs feels weird, especially the bomb part because not using bombs for like a year does mean they normally get wasted.

[Sakurei]

It is completely natural to feel that your run is bad, if you failed a lot of things. And having the sort of reaction Pakken had makes no sense to me.

Back then, the goal of the LNN was surviving. Good survival is important for IN scoring, too, so many many points came from that (I don't know how much attention was paid to PoCing items, I never watched the LNN). So there was very little emphasis on maximizing score. This is different now, though! The goal is mainly not to just survive, but to do so while maximizing the PiV and score as much as possible. If you do not manage as well as you would like to and have practiced, then it is nothing out of the ordinary to say it "bad" (of course that differs from your point of view. To some people 4.25b might be an amazing score). And personally, I absolutely understand not wanting people to see my bad replays. That is, in my eyes, normal too.
The difference in what was attempted to achieve is very important in this context, And Pakken evidently was not able to take that very important point into consideration.

By the way, 20 bombs isn't that much for Ghost team, is it? You do bomb Mystia's last non spell, Keine's third spell and Reisen's last spell a lot in the first place on that shot, do you not? Or maybe you don't bomb them all yet?

[Mr Jovial]

By the way, 20 bombs isn't that much for Ghost team, is it? You do bomb Mystia's last non spell, Keine's third spell and Reisen's last spell a lot in the first place on that shot, do you not? Or maybe you don't bomb them all yet?

I ended up deathbombing on Venomous Moth's Dark Dance so only had 2 bombs for Mystia's last non (supposed to have 4) and I completely messed up on Keine's 3rd, so I only got 2 bombs there as well (again supposed to be 4). Got 5 of the 6 bombs on Reisen's last spell though because I died to Tewi's first. So maybe you're right. And to be honest, I've sort of rushed through to get a full run, most of these stages I learned months ago and just spent a few days making sure I at least knew what to do (not really considering consistency at the time). I guess failing tons of stuff is a given since I did try and learn every scoring strategy though the harder ones were either adapted to make them more manageable or ignored because I find I'm too inconsistent at them.

EDIT: 2nd run and got 4.67 billion. Pretty much an improvement everywhere except stage 5 which was shoddy. 3 deaths to Tewi (including 1 on her 2nd which is a safespot ;-;)  then deathbomb on Mind Stopper puts me on 3 bombs for Reisen's final, which I bomb too early and have to deathbomb that as well. The middle of stage 4B was also a bit messy (starting a few waves of enemies before Marisa shows up) so lost another 2 lives there. Good Kaguya fight though, only had to bomb Buddhist Diamond and I somehow flopped on her 3rd last spell (first time I failed that as Netherworld Team, rip perfect history).

[Pakken11]

Oh, it seems like I forgot to add "right, it's sooo bad indeed </sarcasm> #superplayer"

Really, I thought at least Jovial would get the joke >A>

[Mr Jovial]

Oh, it seems like I forgot to add "right, it's sooo bad indeed </sarcasm> #superplayer"

Really, I thought at least Jovial would get the joke >A>

I took it to seriously and the joke went over my head :L (also, since I just remembered a post a while ago about someone complaining about good players calling themselves bad, I changed the 4.25b post a little bit)

Anyway did another run, got 4.9 billion. Stages 2, 3 and 5 went really well. Stage 1 I deathbombed on Wriggle's final but kept going anyway (cost me 2 bombs on Mystia's last non). Stage 3 had some bad cancelling at the start and a death in the middle. 4B was alright but I deathbombed on Double Spark and failed Final Master Spark. 5 was really good, only got 5/6 bombs on Reisen's final because I entered the stage with 3 bombs. Stage 6B was messy in the middle: deathbombed Buddhist Diamond just before a capture, died to 3rd non, the subsequent loss of power makes Salamander Shield a bit awkward so I died to that. Oh the plus side, all 5 last spells captured Solid survival overall though, only 2 deaths.

I'll stop spamming this thread eventually.

[Agent17]

I cleared SA Normal with Reimu B ! (after a run with MarisaB when I died at Okuu's last spell lol)
And I got to Koishi's third spell card at my first try (But I got problems with her first spell :/)

[Pakken11]

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=36811

I actually started going for Lunatic 1cc on this shot-type, and I FINALLY did it :DDDDD

Wasn't really expecting it (haven't played SA in a while, first try of the day, etc.), but I did feel pretty confident - or should I say comfortable - while playing, since I had already played the game so many times lol (four 1cc's on Marisa-A and one on Reimu-A is a lot, I think)

Was a nice game to end the day and send me to the showers lolol #BedTimeTouhou

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@Jovial: I wasn't trying to criticize or anything, just found it funny and wanted to make a joke :3 *shrug*

And this also happens to be my highest SA score lolol - yeah, totally not interested in scoring >A>

[LunaWillow]

I DID IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT



...though I need to admit that I had some small slowdown issues near the end of Yumemi fight. I was invisible anyways, so I guess it doesn't count... Right?

[tuner12]

I completed Touhou 11 on normal, and I beated Suwako in Touhou 10.  :V

[Koog]

Decided to play IN after a looooong while I haven't played.
Sk&Rm reached Eirin midboss in Stage 6B.
I feel so happy.
MoF and IN are the games I'm concentrated...

EDIT: Went and retried MoF. Kanako owned me with her final spell 5 times!!

[Hainiryuun]

I've captured all of IN Extra's spellcards, pacifist. By the end, though, I was more happy that I found a route that I could consistently capture Fujiyama Volcano than anything else, lol.

Edit:

And just managed an EoSD Extra Ultra clear - youtube

Highlights are at 1:52 where Reimu forgets that she has a hitbox and capturing Forbidden Barrage "Catadioptric" (which I rarely even do on normal).

[LunaWillow]

Yay~