What do you feel is the Touhou difficulty curve?

[Failure McFailFace]

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So, what is your Touhou "difficulty curve?"

[Tengukami]

Ah, this isn't what a "difficulty curve" is, if what you mean by that is "learning curve" or "experience curve", which measures how much a person learns a particular subject over the course of their experience with it. This is a variation of the "which Touhou games are hardest/easiest" thread, only in line graph format.

Which I'm OK with, personally, but I just wanted to clarify that we're not charting how much we learned in terms of skill over time with the games, but just charting which were the most to least difficult with a crooked line.

[Yookie]

What I've always seen/heard was that 11 & 12 are the most difficult. I guess that's because of their relatively unforgiving gimmicks for resource-gain (SA denies you lives for dying, so the progress is really not linear at all) and for me because the patterns of especially 12 are not my kinda stuff (not Shou's lasers. Shou is easy. Relatively speaking)

But about the non-integer titles: These are heavily focused on their gimmicks and as such their difficulty is really subjective. Some people just don't like GFW because of the freezing, some don't get along with it.
I personally would rank GFW much lower.
The photo games are rather difficult but basically just "IN's spell-practice the game" as in you don't lose anything at all for failing a scene since you can just pick up at that scene again.
Also: why is 9.5 so much lower than 12.5 :V

Then there's also the thing with the different difficulties. TD for example is really easy on normal but the jump in difficulty towards Lunatic is greater than with e.g. EoSD.
All in all the difference in the difficulties is more obvious in the newer games I think. I could just pick up EoSD on Hard mode without feeling too much of a difference which was not the case with TD. (Same goes for PCB and IN vs. MoF).

[chirpy13]

Something like this

[Ghaleon]

Im not sure but i find that a lot of IN's easiness comes from using raymoo/yukari, and not using that shot type is a larger handicap than not using your fave shot types in any other game in the series (except maybe pcb bomb spam sakuya for 1cc purposes, but i never liked her to begin with playstyle so i dunno)

[Serela]

It depends on the difficulty mode. SA and UFO are crazy hard for me on the high difficulties, even though UFO lets you get buttloads of resources it also has the highest overall amount of really hard patterns in the series by a good shot IMO, followed by SA. I never actually 1cc'd UFO/SA on Lunatic, although I did all the other games... until I stopped playing shmups nearly as much before 13/14 came out so I only did hard mode >_>; But I'm pretty sure I could do Lunatic just fine if I actually tried, for those two.

SA also has weird shot type tiering where it's like, ReimuA God Tier and then everyone else is fair compared to eachother. MarisaA is a -really- good one too but it's weird, so.

LLS is up there in the easiest Lunatics, by the way. Maybe followed by PCB, assuming you aren't doing IN with 7 base lives just because the game lets you. This again isn't counting touhou 13 or 14 :V Lack of experience with them.

[Noobzor]

How I feel about lunatic. I'm terribly bad at MoF but that's mostly because I didn't play that game a lot. DDC is only that high when not using MarisaB/SakuyaA.

Normal difficulty would be a flat line except for a small bump on EoSD and UFO, a medium bump on DDC and a huge bump on SA ? according to what I can remember of when I was going for normal 1ccs (which was before DDC came out but I can definitely imagine having a hard time clearing it).

Hard difficulty is basically a flat line too, except for the huge bump on IN. I had a lot of troubles clearing it. I was surprised at clearing SA in only two days of trying, and even more surprised about getting UFO on a random try when I wasn't even focused on that game at all.

[Drake]

[Thanbo]

[Kaze_Senshi]

Close enough

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[Sakurei]

IN is the hardest game I have ever played, PoFV has no skill-cap to it, thus their difficulty caps offscreen. SA was okay. Not too difficult. Everything else was super easy because I don't play them.

[Yukarin]

Drake got it perfectly.

[Tengukami]

Yes, Drake got it.

Still, submitting my own. Fighting games left out because they don't count.

[Nolegs the Cat]

  :V



In all seriousness... EOSD and DDC would have a decent bump, as would SA and UFO (with bigger bumps in difficulty). PCB would be average, and TD, and MoF would be low, and IN waaay down.
So basically:
SA - UFO - DDC - EOSD - PCB - TD - MoF - IN.

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Red - tip top WR scoring
Blue - LNB
Yellow - 1cc